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22. Swedes still hold fast to their liberal/social values
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:23 AM
Jan 2013

A good friend was in Stokholm on an academic conference. He said once you get there, you can feel that the country is different. The Swedes don't like big inequalities. And not only in income but in other ways as well. Many of these Muslim families have come from places where educating girls is forbidden. There has a been an effort by the government to make sure these girls get to school and get an education whether the parents want it or not. Try to keep a young girl from getting educated and Swedish authorities may show up at your door.

I'm sure there are other issues that clash as well. Roles of women, attitudes toward sex, and a widespread secularism among the native Swedes are just a few.

Beyond those, most of these immigrants don't bring much to the economic table. Typically it's the men that work outside the house but they don't have marketable skills to obtain jobs. What usually happens is they wind up going straight to welfare. This breeds further resentment from native Swedes who pay the taxes. It's too bad as well, the Scandinavian countries like Sweden and Norway have undergone economic booms while several of their southern neighbors are struggling with depression-like unemployment and austerity.

So the going rate in Sweden ... zellie Jan 2013 #1
The article states that the victim was a refuge from Iraq. amandabeech Jan 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author zellie Jan 2013 #3
I'm not sure where you're coming from. amandabeech Jan 2013 #5
Nothing wrong with the swedes . zellie Jan 2013 #7
I see that you post frequently in the I/P forum. amandabeech Jan 2013 #8
Treading a fine line there... a la izquierda Jan 2013 #9
It wasn't tolerated his last time through. Scurrilous Jan 2013 #13
Classy. a la izquierda Jan 2013 #14
And I alerted and it stood... a la izquierda Jan 2013 #16
Wow! He's lucky he didn't get NINE years!! WinkyDink Jan 2013 #4
WTF? This is Sweden? smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #6
Sweden has had a number of these freethought Jan 2013 #10
Shocking. I always thought Sweden the most liberal of smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #17
Sweden is liberal, these are mostly immigrants, not those raised in sweden JI7 Jan 2013 #21
Swedes still hold fast to their liberal/social values freethought Jan 2013 #22
I can see why the Scandinvians would be resentful. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #25
"Sweden has a relatively liberal immigration policy." Indeed. pampango Jan 2013 #30
Wouldn't it have been more honourable to just fess up? Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #11
Because shanking your sister says such good things about your family's reputation! dairydog91 Jan 2013 #12
Are you advocating for prison rape here? Really? Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #19
I will never understand how someone comes to the conclusion that sex is 'less honorable' than MURDER Matariki Jan 2013 #15
+10.000 smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #26
Agreed, but I think the "dishonor" here is about her running out on an arranged marriage, isn't it? Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2013 #34
Should have gotten "Life". mia Jan 2013 #18
The sentence seems short, maybe youth was a mitigating factor. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #20
Eight years? This fucker should have gotten EIGHTY. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #23
Imprisonment for revenge or rehabilitation? Countries like Sweden seem to focus on the latter pampango Jan 2013 #27
Thinking you can rehabilitate a 17 year old who brutally murders his sister in 8 years muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #29
It tend to agree that rehablilitation may be 'overly optimistic', but that's Sweden for you. n/t pampango Jan 2013 #31
You're right about that. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #32
The word "honour" should be in quotations Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #24
Defence lawyer calls the 8 years "incredibly harsh"; would have been 4 if tried as a 16 year old muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #28
Only 8 years for MURDER? WTF? smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #33
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