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Cirque du So-What

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Sun Jan 27, 2013, 02:46 PM Jan 2013

Strike at the root of gun violence by shutting down the 'iron pipeline' [View all]

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Obama also proposed a federal gun trafficking measure Wednesday, which Kelly called “a move in the right direction,” saying that 90% of the guns confiscated by police in New York come from out of state. “We need a federal plan. Otherwise, we’re still going to be plagued with guns coming from all over. They come up what we call the iron pipeline, 95, Highway 95, coming up from the southern states. These are guns that are landing on our doorstep and they’re killing New Yorkers,” Kelly said.

Kelly commended Obama’s efforts to reform gun control. “I think the power of the office is tremendous and the fact that the president is now speaking about it, actually getting behind this legislation, will mean an awful lot. As he said yesterday, that we need the public support. We need the citizens to get behind this. To me, this is just common sense. These are not new proposals. Certainly, [New York City] Mayor Bloomberg has put these proposals forward for quite a while. But now that they’re sort of coalescing, getting behind it, and the president is leading the charge, I think this is very, very important and it could very well be a turning point.”

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http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/01/17/ray-kelly-armed-guards-in-schools-is-not-the-answer/

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In New York City alone, just last week, the NYPD suffered one of its bloodiest nights when three officers suffered gunshot wounds, in two separate crimes, just an hour apart. We are all thankful these heroes are on their way to recovery.

Almost one year ago, NYPD Officer Peter Figoski, the father of four beautiful daughters, was tragically killed in the line of duty.

One thing all of these shootings have in common: the guns used all came up "the Iron pipeline" from out-of-state. In fact, according to the Mayor's office, 85 percent of the guns used in gun crimes in New York City come from out-of-state, and at least 90 percent of these guns are illegal.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-kirsten-gillibrand/end-the-flow-of-illegal-g_b_2440791.html

Proponents adhering strictly to the current NRA talking point about identifying the 'mentally ill' is just a panacea to placate the masses...until the next gun massacre occurs, that is. The root of the problem lies in the ready availability of firearms, and the NRA's polly-parrots continue to ignore the fact - once bandied about by their side with great regularity - that anyone, despite appearing on any generated list, is able to obtain a firearm because they're so readily available. All suggestions that run contrary to the NRA script are met with the equivalent of 'resistance is futile,' however, so it's up to us who believe a legislative solution is within our grasp to apply unrelenting pressure until the real problems are addressed first.
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correct Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #1
Existing laws aren't effective, apparently Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #3
The laws are Federal sarisataka Jan 2013 #8
I'm referring primarily to weak state laws Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #10
Truth is not true sarisataka Jan 2013 #12
In that case, those convicted should not be voting members of that org Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #15
To me sarisataka Jan 2013 #18
So, what - in your estimation - IS the true agenda of this billionaire-founded organization? Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #23
Same as the NRA sarisataka Jan 2013 #25
well then that is a state issue Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #16
Yes, and those weak state laws are the problem Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #20
Felons ??....your list below has Class C misdemeanors for one.... pkdu Jan 2013 #31
I did not say they are all felons yet sarisataka Jan 2013 #34
we should tear up Interstate 95 right out of the ground datasuspect Jan 2013 #2
Let's not get hasty Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #6
Why not back up even farther and take a good, hard look at the weapons manufactures themselves. RC Jan 2013 #4
There should be a crack down on arms trafficking. hack89 Jan 2013 #5
So..... random stops on I-95? Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #7
Starting with federal laws Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #9
So, to shut down the 'iron pipeline' Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #13
Nice attempt to put words in my mouth Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #17
ok, i asked, and got what I read above, so, tell me.... Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #21
I consider holding dealers accountable to be a good start Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #24
FFL dealers? Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #27
Google Tiahrt amendments....then think about your first paragraph ... pkdu Jan 2013 #32
Will read more, but the FoP seemed to like it. Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #36
Actually state police already do this when they got intelligence nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #11
Then it wouldn't be random Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #14
It appears that you are missing the point. jazzimov Jan 2013 #19
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #26
No, I get the point Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #29
OK, now I am officially confused. jazzimov Jan 2013 #30
Yes, serious debate Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #35
Some excellent points! jazzimov Jan 2013 #38
Since the transportation of guns across state laws Lurks Often Jan 2013 #37
Which means the laws are ineffective, because they are impossible to enforce. jazzimov Jan 2013 #39
"Impossible to enforce" Lurks Often Jan 2013 #40
The same way we've stopped pot and cocaine from being smuggled on 95 Recursion Jan 2013 #28
Well they do still try by stopping every car with black males in them on 95 that they can stultusporcos Jan 2013 #33
It sounds like NY criminals are the root of the problem. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #22
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