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In reply to the discussion: What is the real reason that rethugs are anti-abortion? I don't accept that they care about the [View all]booley
(3,855 posts)87. It's a get out of jail card
I have had anti choice cons say this and one explicitly stated abortion was the above
(he later tried to walk it back when he realized the reaction from everyone else)
This is reinforced by the Colorado legislator that once said he wanted pregnant women with aids to come to term and their kids to have HIV so they would learn to not have premarrital sex like their mom did.
"....quite frankly. I'm not convinced that part of the role of government should be to protect individuals from the negative consequences of their actions."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Schultheis
In short, getting pregnant or an STD is seen as the natural consequence of having done something you shouldn't have (never mind the details. for the purposes of this, those facts don't don't matter)
Pregnancy is a punishment. Therefore abortion (and taking it even further, contraception) is a way to avoid punishment for wrongful action.
It's assumed the woman must have done something wrong or else she would never have been in that situation to begin with. Again details about the individual circumstance don't matter and indeed only reinforces their meme that even if that one case was "worthy", there are still plenty who are not and therefore it's ok to limit abortion for those people. And yes, even if that means the innocent suffer as well.
Nor is abortion the only issue where this idea holds sway. It also influences thier ideas about welfare. Ever notice how conservatives will often say they have no problem with charity for the poor (which is how they define social programs) but only for the worthy... and then proceed to make the bar so high that no one can ever beconsidered worthy?
And Jesse helm's statement about stopping AIDS by having gay people stop having gay sex.
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What is the real reason that rethugs are anti-abortion? I don't accept that they care about the [View all]
mfcorey1
Jan 2013
OP
I think most anti-abortion types are aware that abortion is quite common across the board.
reformist2
Jan 2013
#132
I agree. In patriarchal cultures, which is pretty much all cultures to one degree or another,
Raksha
Jan 2013
#127
It's a power trip for them, much as with a rapist or a molester. They want to dominate a
RKP5637
Jan 2013
#131
To a man it's a "wedge" issue. To a woman it is a matter of life and death.
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#36
Do you think the government has the right to force a woman to be pregnant against her will? n/t
cynatnite
Jan 2013
#50
I believe that someone has to enforce the law. And that we should outlaw abortion.
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#60
Outlawing abortion is a step back...forcing women to be pregnant against their will is a step back..
cynatnite
Jan 2013
#73
"the most extremist anti-choicers....." "believe that pile of garbage" Not incendiary?
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#94
The discussion on ensoulment has been going on for quite some time. It is not over.
MissMarple
Jan 2013
#115
Of course she shouldn't have carried it to term. And the fact that you would ask that means
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#96
The Supreme Court has ruled on this, so your personal declarations are irrelevant.
WinkyDink
Jan 2013
#117
Sex is fun. People like sex. Mistakes are made. We have the natural right of autonomy over
Zorra
Jan 2013
#139
Your position to outlaw abortion would result in the death of women, it would not 'save their life'
Spazito
Jan 2013
#91
You do understand that to someone who is pro-life, the child's right to life trumps your right to
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#112
Yes. I do. Because I think that the child that she is carrying has a right to life.
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#109
Dang! I thought I put you on ignore a long time ago, REP. Let me go ahead and get that done. nt
Th1onein
Jan 2013
#122
Oh yeah? Here are your buddies on the conservativecave.com talking about your anti-choice posts:
Arugula Latte
Jan 2013
#45
I don't believe for a nanosecond that the "pro-life" movement wants Roe V Wade
Boomerproud
Jan 2013
#107
The birth of Patriarchy was the discovery of the co-occurrence of copulation
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#29
Sluts need to be punished with the burden of a child they are unable to care for.
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#34
Normally these freaks would just stone the slut to death, but now there are laws
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#82
Right. We are pro-choice in the sense that we believe that it's the individual woman's
xxxsdesdexxx
Jan 2013
#39
It's an appeal to the Christian Right and an attempt to assert control over women
Downtown Hound
Jan 2013
#77
They have a stone age morality that tells them man is a fallen and sinful creature.
Exultant Democracy
Jan 2013
#129