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DanielW

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89. thats not true

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:56 PM

Jan 2013

most gun crimes are committed with stolen guns, these guns would still be out there, and criminals would still be carrying and using guns because they dont care about the law.

it would be like in the uk post gun ban, violent crime explodes

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An explanation, from a gun nut. [View all] CommoFreq Jan 2013 OP

Well, you're half right. Robb Jan 2013 #1

Your concern is noted. Please feel free to share more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #2

you're new, so maybe you don't know to use this: maxsolomon Jan 2013 #3

At least you admitted it RomneyLies Jan 2013 #4

Hammers? sadbear Jan 2013 #5

As in "dumber than" baldguy Jan 2013 #90

Yep... sadbear Jan 2013 #94

Desperation is a stinky cologne. Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #6

"Dont trust the media"- can you elaborate? With specifics? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #7

I stopped reading here: thucythucy Jan 2013 #105

That jumped out at me, too. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #112

that caught my eye too... Maine-ah Jan 2013 #123

You were doing OK until you started with the false/cherry picked statistics. DanTex Jan 2013 #8

well, DanielW Jan 2013 #38

Actually, violent crime rates in other wealthy nations are similar to those in the US. DanTex Jan 2013 #50

here's the facts, the last one is crucial to this discussion.. DanielW Jan 2013 #58

Wow, a bunch of fabricated statistics! The NRA has trained you well. DanTex Jan 2013 #68

welp DanielW Jan 2013 #73

Truly an impartial, well-balanced source. theKed Jan 2013 #76

LOL. Gun Owners of America! The place to turn when the NRA just isn't batshit crazy enough! DanTex Jan 2013 #77

yea i know DanielW Jan 2013 #79

Their statistics are as valid as my height and weight measurements jeff47 Jan 2013 #102

this is like Limbaugh vs O'Reilly for sources.... ceejdre82 Jan 2013 #109

You're kidding right? uponit7771 Jan 2013 #121

Incorrect and outdated data ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #93

Now compare the UK to those parts of the US with similar... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #107

+1! uponit7771 Jan 2013 #120

Late to the party... Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2013 #9

WTF??? Not thinking emotionally? Logic and reason? oldhippie Jan 2013 #10

I still question the need for automatic weapons in our country redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #11

what? DanielW Jan 2013 #43

I try to discuss with gun folks redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #49

We have a winner! billh58 Jan 2013 #60

I assume this is not directed at me... redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #92

Not in the least. billh58 Jan 2013 #96

Thanks still new and learning... redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #99

Those require a FFL loose wheel Jan 2013 #52

And another winner! billh58 Jan 2013 #62

lol right mokawanis Jan 2013 #80

"Also, what about the gun show loopholes in terms of background checks?" EX500rider Jan 2013 #88

Not so. Many states, including Texas, allow one to rent a table ..... oldhippie Jan 2013 #97

Speaking of bullshit... jmg257 Jan 2013 #12

? DanielW Jan 2013 #44

I would suggest not distinguishing between rifles and handguns, or even semis for that matter. jmg257 Jan 2013 #57

ok DanielW Jan 2013 #59

Well - 2 choices depending... jmg257 Jan 2013 #66

what? DanielW Jan 2013 #75

I would if I didn't want him to have it, and was damn serious about it. jmg257 Jan 2013 #78

thats not true DanielW Jan 2013 #89

Take your talking points and go--oh, I see you HAVE been shown out! Buh-bye! eom Maeve Jan 2013 #95

Thanks for the heads up! nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #103

Where does those criminals get their stolen guns from? jmg257 Jan 2013 #101

don't you love the argument... ceejdre82 Jan 2013 #110

Yep - 'if guns are outlawed, only good guys will keep their guns...no wait.. jmg257 Jan 2013 #111

Um, have you not been paying attention for the past 30 years? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #83

Illogical and irrational non sequitur Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #13

Uh-huh. Enjoy your, *ahem*, stay. apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #14

+1 Rex Jan 2013 #69

Are you getting paid to post this? tularetom Jan 2013 #15

Reporting the shooting deaths of 20 schoolchildren is "sensationalism"? Scuba Jan 2013 #16

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #17

Wow, this response hasn't been hidden yet? sadbear Jan 2013 #19

The Clown Car Is Coming To Pick This Bozo Up HangOnKids Jan 2013 #20

I alerted -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2013 #21

6-0 Hide and now it's gone eom Maeve Jan 2013 #24

Member Since 2008 With Today As His Coming Out Party HangOnKids Jan 2013 #26

It appears that there billh58 Jan 2013 #67

Indeed! HangOnKids Jan 2013 #70

Ask the parents of those dead children if there is a gun problem. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #18

just a thought DanielW Jan 2013 #47

So your claim is that there are more killings there? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #51

More NRA talking points -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2013 #55

But NRA statistics prove without billh58 Jan 2013 #86

It's very dangerous to post facts in this place, I have noticed. bucky balls Jan 2013 #98

What's dangerous is being six years old thucythucy Jan 2013 #106

And your feelings on.. one_voice Jan 2013 #22

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #25

Seriously -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2013 #28

No Shit 2004 Called And They Want Their Freeper Manual Back!n/t HangOnKids Jan 2013 #34

Its a fucking school, it SHOULD be a gun free zone. Jeez, the morons are out of their cages. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #32

I go to sleep every night thankful my kid is in a school protected by a guy with a gun. bucky balls Jan 2013 #100

Huh? He has his own body guard? Cool story bro. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #104

there were also a few guys with guns as security at Columbine... ceejdre82 Jan 2013 #113

Name one MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #36

Helpful Hint: Snotty Condescension Isn't A Productive Approach. Paladin Jan 2013 #23

Ever heard of COINTELPRO? NNN0LHI Jan 2013 #27

Indeed. Savannahmann Jan 2013 #29

Don't even let the poser off that easy. 99Forever Jan 2013 #41

Still irrelevant to the discussion Savannahmann Jan 2013 #63

Bahahahah ellisonz Jan 2013 #30

News flash! When some son-of-a-bitch kills 20+ children in a school, that is an act of terrorism. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #31

DEAR DU MANAGEMENT: ENOUGH OF THIS! ALL GUN THREADS TO THE GUNGEON. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #33

"because they can't find ONE (1) single terrorist in this whole fucking country!" ellisonz Jan 2013 #35

I also commented on this yesterday and the poster did not respond... ceejdre82 Jan 2013 #114

He didn't respond because he was banned from DU. ellisonz Jan 2013 #115

yeah, i realized after I posted that he was banned...I and you are correct.. ceejdre82 Jan 2013 #116

In the immortal words of Wolfgang Pauli: GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #37

I'm a member of the gun owning community and the most complaining I'm hearing Lint Head Jan 2013 #39

I'm going to remember this post Skidmore Jan 2013 #40

Today Is One Month Since Newtown HangOnKids Jan 2013 #45

Oh please share with us Mr. Democrat Liberal Gun Nut iwillalwayswonderwhy Jan 2013 #42

Poster has left the building. zappaman Jan 2013 #46

Many thanks, EarlG! eom Maeve Jan 2013 #48

"Take your NRA talking points elsewhere." ellisonz Jan 2013 #54

Greatly Appreciated, EarlG. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #81

Okay. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #53

It's not bullshit. tallahasseedem Jan 2013 #56

Is it just me or does there seem to be alot more "gun nuts" joining DU lately? rightsideout Jan 2013 #61

It Is Happening HangOnKids Jan 2013 #65

It has already been billh58 Jan 2013 #72

Okay, I'll bite. What does MIRT stand for? (n/t) derby378 Jan 2013 #118

Yawn...your 'we this and we that' is predictable and sad. Rex Jan 2013 #64

CommoFreak Has Left The Building HangOnKids Jan 2013 #74

"Running the numbers" is bullshit. It's a strawman point of view. randome Jan 2013 #71

A car, a knife and a hammer are as lethal as an AR-15? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #82

No thanks KingFlorez Jan 2013 #84

I think the point is well made about going after the wrong gun. Handguns have not been a big maggiesfarmer Jan 2013 #85

You lost me at "hammers are more dangerous than guns!" Aristus Jan 2013 #87

"Posting privileges revoked" baldguy Jan 2013 #91

"We have federal agents going around putting fake explosives into peoples' hands" ceejdre82 Jan 2013 #108

Two problems with your post Tab Jan 2013 #117

Another lemming tries to climb the ladder of sanity, only to fall crashing down DainBramaged Jan 2013 #119

I'm just going to address your third and fourth paragraphs and let someone else deal with your Chorophyll Jan 2013 #122

So its ok that 0.0000000317096% of Americans die each year so you can has the precious? Also, please Erose999 Jan 2013 #124

The most dangerous hammer of all is the BAN HAMMER. Watch out for it. You'll probably be seeing it Erose999 Jan 2013 #125