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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
15. First of all, Hagel admitted he was wrong to say what he said about Hormel
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:27 PM
Jan 2013

So he really isn't "anti-gay" anymore(unless we're assuming that you're always anti-gay if you ever said anything anti-gay at any point in your life, even if you recanted that particular opinion publicly).

Two, the Secretary of Defense has little if anything to do with abortion policy(Obama has ordered the DoD to cover abortion funding in the cases the pro-choice movement wanted it covered, so Hagel can't do anything to stop that).

Three...is Hagel REALLY "anti-Israel"? Or is he just saying that Israel shouldn't get special deference. Why isn't it ENOUGH just for the U.S. to support Israel's right to exist-why do we NEED to do anything beyond that? Is it really necessary to choose sides between them and the Palestinians(especially now, since Israel no longer has any claim to moral superiority over the Palestinian side, and is nothing but simply another country in another war)?

The fact is, Israel's survival is assured no matter what. That country doesn't need special deference or special protection. It's covered already.

Yes, I think it would be very enlightening to have the Armed Services committee TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #1
Well, he is anti-gay and anti-choice, but I don't think that matters to you anti-Israel folks HERVEPA Jan 2013 #2
Please link so it can be discussed. We are discussing Defense, not human rights. freshwest Jan 2013 #3
We are never not discussing human rights Lordquinton Jan 2013 #11
True, just no links to say Hagel is anti-Israeli, humans, etc. as asserted. freshwest Jan 2013 #13
After reading that Lordquinton Jan 2013 #19
Thanks and just found this bit about Hagel: freshwest Jan 2013 #20
"supports cuts in military spending" Qutzupalotl Jan 2013 #26
Agreed. The Israel issue may be cover for their sponsors, and used as dog whistle for their fundies. freshwest Jan 2013 #28
THANK YOU Skittles Jan 2013 #22
Some people are unable to make the connections HERVEPA Jan 2013 #24
Prove that I am anti-Israel in any way. It's not anti-Israel to recognize TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #4
Neo Cons Wouldn't Give A Shit About Hagel's Other Positions if He Shared Their War Views Indykatie Jan 2013 #9
Yep--funny to watch magazines like the Weekly Standard suddenly obsessed TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #10
isreal's a big boy now maybe it's tme to stop nursing at the breast of the us leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #6
First of all, Hagel admitted he was wrong to say what he said about Hormel Ken Burch Jan 2013 #15
It sounds to me like he could be A Simple Game Jan 2013 #16
Glenn Greenwald, who is gay, addressed the anti-gay issue NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #23
does this fucker ever stop whining? spanone Jan 2013 #5
He probably sleeps sometimes. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #7
Well, I guess he believes in doing repeatedly that which he does best. calimary Jan 2013 #12
Graham again? Well that is 1 percent of the senate pwb Jan 2013 #8
So sick of the Likud deciding who we should nominate LittleBlue Jan 2013 #14
You lost Buddy, get used to it. nt bemildred Jan 2013 #17
SecDef should have a basic opposition to war. Cynicus Emeritus Jan 2013 #18
I'm sick of those who think we need to check with Israel first before we approve or disapprove. xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #21
It may be a great signal to Netanayu not to bite the hand malaise Jan 2013 #25
About time. Jester Messiah Jan 2013 #27
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