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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:33 AM Dec 2012

THE TRUTH ABOUT "CHRISTMAS": The season was CO-OPTED by the Christians. Let me explain: [View all]

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The next time some bible thumper starts up with all this CRAP about "the war on Christmas" and "keeping Christ in Christmas" and all the rest of their delusional NONSENSE, look them right in the face and say, "You do not know history, and you do not know what you are talking about. The Christians CO-OPTED this holiday season." Then you say, the holiday season and the vast majority of its traditions such as lighting trees, lights in general, feasts, parties, gifts, etc., existed for a llllllllllllllllllllllong time BEFORE the birth of Christ and were SECULAR and PAGAN. It was all about worshiping the sun at the time of the winter solstice in the northern hemisphere. Europeans held feasts and festivals, burned yule logs, decorated evergreens, and exchanged gifts. Christ would not have been born in late December. If anything it would have been sometime in October or in the spring according to the work traditions of shepherds. It was around the third century AD that the Christians under papal order began melding their recognition of the birth of Christ with the solstice celebrations out of fear of threat of the popularity of the MUCH older secular pagan traditions.

Indeed, even in America the puritans would only attend church at Christmastime because they knew the history and considered all the other celebrations as heathen paganism.

So the next time that bible thumper starts up about Christmas and keeping Christ in it, tell him/her it is a LOAD OF CRAP and that what they are really doing THEMSELVES with their trees, wreaths, candles, yule logs, dinners, parties, and lights is celebrating THE WINTER SOLSTICE which is PAGAN and SECULAR. In fact, quote Jeremiah 10:2-5 "Learn not the way of the heathen. Their customs are vain, for one cuts trees out of the forest. They deck it with silver and gold."

So FELLOW "HEATHENS," enjoy your SOLSTICE celebration of lights, trees, wreaths, yule logs, baked goods and candy, dinners, drinking, parties, and presents.

I sure as to hell am !

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Yes, this is what I have found out to be true also. Happy Solstice everyone! byeya Dec 2012 #1
I am not a Christian, but i find your post offensive, especially on Christmas Eve. nt darkangel218 Dec 2012 #2
No, this is the PERFECT time. I am offended by you being offended by the TRUTH. RBInMaine Dec 2012 #5
Why? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #6
You're not a Christian, but you find the OP's post offensive? Why? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #7
Because this is the time to be happy and celebrate with our loved ones darkangel218 Dec 2012 #19
some of us are able to do both Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #25
If it should be about accepting one another, why are so many religious people not accepting of Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #26
The OP is just basic world history about the ebb and flow of various cultures and religions... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #31
that was the point! treestar Dec 2012 #36
if that was meant to be ironic and funny KurtNYC Dec 2012 #11
... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #14
I did soften a bit of the language, but as Dickens wrote, TRUTH LIVES. This post is a GIFT to those RBInMaine Dec 2012 #15
You could've held posting that "truth" at least few days after Christmas. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #20
The only one making this divisive seems to be you. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #22
We have dealt with enough lately, why not just celebrate, darkangel218 Dec 2012 #23
You have a mouse in your pocket? Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #27
Whatever, carry on. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #29
I never said I wasn't a Christian. Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #35
You should direct your anger to the Christians that are ready to fight over this at the drop of a dbackjon Dec 2012 #39
So far i havent met any who got upset when i wished them Happy Holidays. nt darkangel218 Dec 2012 #40
Yes, the truth is quite offensive. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #21
Today is not about " this was my holiday, you stole it from me " darkangel218 Dec 2012 #24
So when the religious draw a line in the sand like Prop 8....they say 'you are not like us, we are Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #28
You realize, don't you, that truth like that Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #3
You mean like the CHRISTIAN Spanish Inquisition? Or the CHRISTIAN Crusades? RBInMaine Dec 2012 #17
Okay. HappyMe Dec 2012 #4
I believe you are wrong. I'm pretty sure the ancients enjoyed the strong aluminum pole and.. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #8
If Christmas was about trees you'd be right. It's not. rug Dec 2012 #9
You don't get it. The SEASON is about an ARRAY of traditions CO-OPTED by "Christmas." Trees are RBInMaine Dec 2012 #12
I do get it. It's a significant religious holiday that's been adapted around the world. rug Dec 2012 #18
Festivus... orwell Dec 2012 #10
And Santa is Odin! Bonobo Dec 2012 #13
I know someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas because it's too pagan. Brickbat Dec 2012 #16
Only when trying to fight bullying with more bullying. Festivito Dec 2012 #30
Now the Easter Bunny is definately Christian. I draw the line at the Easter Bunny! byeya Dec 2012 #32
All those "offended" are hilarious! JNelson6563 Dec 2012 #33
You appear to mistake the conscious decision of co-opting a thing LanternWaste Dec 2012 #34
The Romans made conscious decisions to co-opt other religions ALL THE TIME truebluegreen Dec 2012 #37
The facts, as you have recounted Bohunk68 Dec 2012 #38
They repurposed it. Igel Dec 2012 #41
Locking. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #42
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