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fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:41 AM Dec 2012

I feel more disconnected from this country than ever before... [View all]

So I'm 31 male, and maybe it's just me. I don't get this country. I thought I did, but now I really feel like I don't ever since the shooting at Sandy Hook. Maybe it's the fact that I live in the South now and I'm not really all that into guns. Or violent video games for that matter.

I've been feeling sort of out there for a while now, but my values feel especially distant from many, if not most I meet or know especially my peer group.

And this isn't really particularly ideological. I consider myself fairly moderate - left of center on most issues, centrist on a few, and maybe even right of center on some (OK I'll admit I can't think of the issue).

But the obsession with firearms in this country just strikes me as strange and somewhat fanatical. Even on this issue, I think my viewpoint isn't extreme. I've been to the range and I'm not against people owning guns for self defense, hunting, and target practice. I just don't see the point or purpose of civilians owning AR-15s and high capacity clips. Fine. I know there are many that agree with me and some that disagree. That's not really the issue. It's more the paranoia I see in this country on an everyday basis. People have lost all faith in just about every major institution. The government in particular, but also the banks, corporations in general, the health care industry, and higher education. People are still over leveraged and no one sees anything changing. And the frustration is understandable. The standard of living is slipping and I see no long term solutions by anyone that really addresses anything (on either the left or the right).

I just see and hear constant bitterness. I'm constantly bombarded with not only talking points, but irrational conspiracy theories. The new and popular one is that these recent mass shootings are some plan by the government to take away guns. It's tiring. When people believe everything is some far off plan by the powerful, there is no point in even discussing the issue. After all, if you dismiss paranoid talk, you're just another sheep.

I think I need to leave this country for a while. I'm not naive and know that every nation and society faces challenges (and people aren't necessarily any less provincial minded or ignorant in other countries). It's something I've noticed especially Americans love to ignore - we've always got the solution it seems, and we love to never learn from other nations' experiences on any issue - whether it comes to guns, health care, or anything else for that matter.

And frankly all the paranoia is making me nervous - and I've even been tempted to go buy a gun, something that makes me feel, well somewhat uncomfortable. But in a nation armed to the teeth, I'm starting to feel like I have no fucking choice. And that makes me feel like I need an out. Maybe I'm the one that's losing perspective. After all violent crime statistics are at record lows right? Even though mass shootings seem to be a daily occurrence. And that's not surprising considering the number of guns out there. Maybe this is just a normal reaction to the horrific act that took place that day. But it feels like a deeper feeling of discontent - are my values that far off?

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There is a lot you have said that I can relate to. defacto7 Dec 2012 #1
You're not alone. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #2
Hey... renie408 Dec 2012 #4
Thank you for acknowledging my words. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #9
I agree. renie408 Dec 2012 #10
We all know this is the way the forward. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #34
Blazing a moral path forward... love_katz Dec 2012 #14
Working on it love_katz. Thanks for your hugs. As funny as it sounds, they mean a lot. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #33
" H2O Man Dec 2012 #30
I hear you. I am a 48 year old woman and feel the same way sometimes. renie408 Dec 2012 #3
If violent crime is at a low, but mass murders are at a high, doesn't that strike you as strange? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #5
The mass murders are driven by something different than the retail murders Fumesucker Dec 2012 #17
yes. yet both use guns. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #18
A common characteristic suggests a common solution n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #19
I felt disconnected when everyone was screaming "Nahn Wun Wun!" and cheering on MADem Dec 2012 #6
Have i changed? or has America Changed? jambo101 Dec 2012 #7
I'm a 29 year old male... jal777 Dec 2012 #8
interesting the sound difference at new years eve Sunlei Dec 2012 #24
Of course, the government of Mexico would suggest that our liberal gun laws are why they can Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #27
I can relate to what you said, although I do believe plethoro Dec 2012 #11
I think buying a bunch of guns is missing the point. love_katz Dec 2012 #12
This: Quantess Dec 2012 #13
I think Winston Churchill had it about right Fumesucker Dec 2012 #20
I'm twice as old as you- marew Dec 2012 #15
K&R - really good post and replies; ty all. n/t gtar100 Dec 2012 #16
Why run away from the issue? I have lived in other countries.. HipChick Dec 2012 #21
You are not alone... mark67 Dec 2012 #22
I think you've nailed it. The people in this nation (not anyone reading this, of course) have gone Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #23
You echo my thoughts. 99Forever Dec 2012 #28
My cousin moved from the US to Denmark in 1983.. SummerSnow Dec 2012 #25
What country ? There's no country here. RagAss Dec 2012 #26
If there were such a thing as a World Citizenship I would apply for it. lunatica Dec 2012 #29
I am not sure what you need to feel connected hfojvt Dec 2012 #31
You should read Bob Altemeyer's, "The Authoritarians." It will shine light on where the US is at. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #32
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