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JoePhilly

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8. That person knows very little about how chess is actually played. Pawns are not used that way.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:42 PM
Dec 2012

Unless you suck at chess.

In reality, Pawns are extremely valuable.

First, let's look at their numerical value. An individual pawn has an INITIAL value of 1 point. But together, their initial value is 8 points.

The queen by comparison is worth 9 points, but there is only one queen. And in higher level chess, the queens are often traded off teh board early.

Then we have the rooks. Each is worth 5 points for a value of 10 total.

Then we have the bishops and knights. Each is worth 3 points. So you have 6 points for Knights, and 6 for Bishops.

So in reality, the paws start with a value above the knights and the bishops, and are just one point less then the Queen.

But something else makes the pawns special. They are the only pieces on the board who can increase their individual value.

Now you might naively think that a pawn can only gain value by becoming a Queen, but that's not a complete understanding. If a pawn crosses the board and makes it to the other side (the 8th rank), it can be promoted and become a Queen (actually, it can become any other piece other than the king).

But a pawn that reaches the 7th rank, threatening to become a queen has also increased its individual value. Most good chess players would count that pawn on the 7th rank and worth about 5 points, or the same as a rook. If the pawn is on the 6th rank, you'd usually consider it worth about the same as a knight or bishop. Which means I would be willing to trade a rook or a knight/bishop in the PROTECTION of that pawn.

In higher level chess, you don't sacrifice pawns, you JAM them down your opponents throat.

So next time some one tells you that you sacrifice pawns to protect the royalty, realize that the person knows nothing about how chess is actually played.

White to move ... find the checkmate in 1 move.



Why do most of the people refering to chess seem to have no idea JoePhilly Dec 2012 #1
It's getting to be a lost art Warpy Dec 2012 #3
It might be making a comeback DURHAM D Dec 2012 #9
Get them ChessMaster for Christmas. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #30
The CEO of my company has played Bobby fisher and keeps bringing it up at every opportunity srican69 Dec 2012 #26
There is a game called ChessMaster in which YOU could play Bobby Fischer ... JoePhilly Dec 2012 #28
Actual knowledge of the game has followed critical thinking skills JFN1 Dec 2012 #4
I'll agree with that!!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #6
In casual games with strangers I do not capture en passant because cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #11
That rule drove my kids crazy. I told them not to use it at school. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #13
Sneaky French chess cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #14
Excactly!! "That might be how they do it in France, but not in America!!" JoePhilly Dec 2012 #16
you mean 'protect the king, sacrifice the pawns & minor nobles"? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #20
You clearly have no idea how chess is actually played. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #29
yes, so you've repeatedly said. the idea is "sacrifice the king," then? for the win? okey dokey. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #33
Actually, you can win a chess competition ... JoePhilly Dec 2012 #35
a draw is not a loss. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #37
Really??? I had no idea!!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #39
yes, you're so very clever & i don't know how to play. the point is clearly to protect the pawns HiPointDem Dec 2012 #41
In high level chess, you actually do PROTECT THE PAWNS. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #42
not at the expense of the king. the part you seem determined to ignore. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #45
again, no. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #46
i love chess. so glad i learned it as a child. spanone Dec 2012 #27
My dad taught me initially ... sadly we stopped playing when I started to beat him. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #32
Like someone here said elsewhere on DU, in chess you sacrifice pawns to save the royalty. djean111 Dec 2012 #2
That person knows very little about how chess is actually played. Pawns are not used that way. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #8
in reality, everything on the board can be sacrified if it protects the king. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #21
If you sacrifice all your pieces, you either lose, or at best obtain a draw. But you do not win. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #24
i didn't say anything about 'impunity'. i said the goal is to protect the king and get the other HiPointDem Dec 2012 #36
C6-C7. What do I win? Buns_of_Fire Dec 2012 #23
LOL!!! Congratulations ... You are today's DU chess champion!!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #25
Thanks! (Trust me, it'll be the LAST time I win at chess!) Buns_of_Fire Dec 2012 #44
That is funny. reflection Dec 2012 #12
Its funny, but its wrong. Pawns are not used that way. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #15
I don't talk about chess much reflection Dec 2012 #17
If you want to improve your chess skills ... JoePhilly Dec 2012 #19
Mr. Fish's tribute to Howard Zinn: CrispyQ Dec 2012 #31
The problem for the GOP is that they are driving a pinto... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #5
True. But he's driving it JFN1 Dec 2012 #7
I don't know... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #34
I suppose it must seem that way Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #10
JFN1 If you were the President 4 t 4 Dec 2012 #18
Okay, I'll play...what woud I do...hmmm... JFN1 Dec 2012 #48
Thank you, Summer Hathaway, for your perfect response Cha Dec 2012 #38
You are most welcome, Cha! Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #40
Wasn't that the OP's point? merrily Dec 2012 #43
There's a difference? JFN1 Dec 2012 #47
The store brand. forestpath Dec 2012 #22
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