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cthulu2016

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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:46 PM Dec 2012

B-I-N-G-O, David Kurtz calls the Boehnner Cliff Fiasco Just Right [View all]

The likely truth is that John Boehner never had the votes to cut a deal with President Obama. Any deal. Not a grand bargain of deficit reduction. Not a piecemeal deal that might have lessened the blow of all the Bush tax cuts expiring on Jan. 1. Nothing.

If that’s true, as I strongly suspect it is, then, yes, the last six weeks since the election have been a tour de force of kabuki theater. His Plan B was probably, in that scenario, his last ditch effort to escape this fiasco without having to admit that he never had the votes. Now that has failed, too, after a desperate 11th hour attempt to cajole, whip and bludgeon his Republican Members into voting for it.

It is easy to overreact to these things in the moment, to overread them. But Speaker Boehner just put it all on the line. The entire nation was watching, and he was exposed. He knows it. His conference knows it. Anyone left in Washington who had doubts about this speaker’s clout now knows it, too. In a parliamentary system, he would resign and his party would elect a new leader. We don’t do it that way here … usually. But it’s hard to see how Speaker Boehner continues from here — or why he would want to.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/12/does_a_speaker_survive_this.php?ref=fpblg
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. cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #1
Washington weather: Drunk Front moving in tonight DemoTex Dec 2012 #2
The far RW hates Cantor too. I don't see him surviving if Boehner doesn't underpants Dec 2012 #3
Oh my eyes! DemoTex Dec 2012 #4
Oh I shudder when I hear the little Munsters name! sheshe2 Dec 2012 #5
Now that is scary madokie Dec 2012 #6
With respest to what 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #8
His next move may be to switch parties. Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #20
Nobody likes theKed Dec 2012 #21
I think we may start to see some GOP defections soon. randome Dec 2012 #28
He doesn't already do that? LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #23
Nah. The teabaggers won't go with Ryan. He's a loser. The election proved that. Texin Dec 2012 #7
I figured I wouldn't be alone in that observation Plucketeer Dec 2012 #10
Agree with you and Texan ewagner Dec 2012 #22
Yeah Cantor is his Brutus Kyad06 Dec 2012 #25
I hope the Republican Party stays in disarray until after the 2014 election if not forever. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #9
Yeah, but then the centrist Republicans will switch to the Democratic party JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #11
The Dem party might be too far right for centrist Repubs n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #12
they can only move closer to the nutty center of their party bigtree Dec 2012 #13
Murkier and Murkier bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #14
K&R closeupready Dec 2012 #15
Cantor is undermining Boehner because he wants to be speaker, or Plan B didn't generate enough alfredo Dec 2012 #16
Plan B was an effort not to lose his leadership position. I pray they hand it over to whoever is ... marble falls Dec 2012 #17
I don't see any legislation pass until 2015, when hopefully, voters vote the Republicans out. RickFromMN Dec 2012 #18
Boner is a... greyghost Dec 2012 #19
Boehner's problem is that they are working under the Hasert rule LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #24
Can you imagine how bad it will get.... Kyad06 Dec 2012 #26
john boner =... MarianJack Dec 2012 #27
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