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If Trump were to win election, would you accept him as a legitimate President? [View all] kentuck Nov 2023 OP

No samplegirl Nov 2023 #1

No. Goddessartist Nov 2023 #2

I don't know Bettie Nov 2023 #3

I can Polybius Nov 2023 #76

Apparently we have different definitions of "legitimate" brooklynite Nov 2023 #4

Irrelevant to you. But not irrelevant to many others. kentuck Nov 2023 #6

How others think is also irrelevant. brooklynite Nov 2023 #7

And that is OK with you? kentuck Nov 2023 #8

Whether its "OK" or not is equally irrelevant. brooklynite Nov 2023 #9

Like I said... kentuck Nov 2023 #10

It is an opinion and I chose to express another. brooklynite Nov 2023 #11

The point is that it could be a divisive and potentially violent election. kentuck Nov 2023 #19

I'm with brooklynite on this PJMcK Nov 2023 #20

It reminds me of the often quoted line.... kentuck Nov 2023 #24

Other than conventional political opposition, what would you suggest constitutes "taking a stand"? tritsofme Nov 2023 #67

Exactly. trump already promised to round up immigrants, pen them in camps.. brush Nov 2023 #114

Seriously? Ms. Toad Nov 2023 #144

your favorite reason for NJCher Nov 2023 #51

I've been here 20+ years and my opinions are frequently "unpopular"... brooklynite Nov 2023 #62

If Trump's elected, Schumer almost certainly won't be Majority Leader Polybius Nov 2023 #83

Some people have the resources to Bettie Nov 2023 #99

Clearly not a popular statement Patton French Nov 2023 #135

I prefer not to speculate over something that is not going to happen. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #5

Assuming Trump can't get elected is dangerously naive. brooklynite Nov 2023 #12

Especially since there are so many independents running womanofthehills Nov 2023 #48

That's a precarious position PJMcK Nov 2023 #21

There's only about a third of 'Mericans who are stupid enough to vote for him again. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #97

That's all he needs. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #107

I didn't accept him last time, yet there he was being President. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2023 #13

The Republicans I know, can't stop talking about Obama to this day womanofthehills Nov 2023 #49

Some of them still fantasize that any day now Mariana Nov 2023 #125

NO way, Jose! ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2023 #14

Constitutionally, he would be the "legitimate" president. onenote Nov 2023 #15

Actually, Constitutionally he should not even be on a ballot according to the 14 Amendment... brush Nov 2023 #117

I didn't the first time. spanone Nov 2023 #16

If "The People" choose not to vote, vote third party or for Trump, of course he's the legitimate president. betsuni Nov 2023 #17

NO! Charging Triceratops Nov 2023 #18

Its not a fraud because it was approved by the Constitiutional Convention brooklynite Nov 2023 #79

What is the alternative? milestogo Nov 2023 #22

if he won a resounding victory including the popular vote LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #23

Of course if..fish..had..wings Nov 2023 #25

-- NJCher Nov 2023 #57

In the same way as Taylor Swift is a great classical musician. chouchou Nov 2023 #26

Hey, don't knock Taylor Swift. She's a staunch progressive, and incidentally one of the most powerful... brush Nov 2023 #118

Not knocking her. chouchou Nov 2023 #123

Totally agree. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2023 #124

I'd prefer the gulag Ponietz Nov 2023 #27

I would have to question this Zambero Nov 2023 #28

Exactly! kentuck Nov 2023 #33

Yes, wannabe dictator trump has already promised retribution. That means us on the left. brush Nov 2023 #119

Only if he were to win a legitimate election tavernier Nov 2023 #29

I'm with you. As horrible as that would be, if the election was legitmate, I Raven Nov 2023 #35

What if he were to lose the popular vote again, but win the EC? Polybius Nov 2023 #86

Of course it would be legally legitimate. Kind of a strange question. tritsofme Nov 2023 #91

I agree with you Polybius Nov 2023 #94

I don't keep two sets of books. tritsofme Nov 2023 #109

No tavernier Nov 2023 #104

Not the 1st time EX500rider Nov 2023 #136

Actually, 5 times counting 1824 Polybius Nov 2023 #138

Were all those legitimate? EX500rider Nov 2023 #141

I agree Polybius Nov 2023 #147

What are the critiera to confer legitimacy? Shrek Nov 2023 #30

Perhaps an intact criminal justice system? Ponietz Nov 2023 #42

He won't win but no. He is an insurrectionists and plans to kill his enemies IHMO. Demsrule86 Nov 2023 #31

How is Biden going to win Michigan at this point? womanofthehills Nov 2023 #55

He can win it by being Not the Fascist Guy ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #98

Heck no Ritabert Nov 2023 #32

nope. Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #34

I was appalled that he was in the White House the first time and KPN Nov 2023 #36

No. Not if he is convicted of even one charge. lees1975 Nov 2023 #37

OH HELL NO. 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Nov 2023 #38

There is a lot of nasty things we would have to learn to accept. Chainfire Nov 2023 #39

OK, i hate that bastard, probably MORE than anyone here. Now, IF and i say IF again he's elected LEGITIMATELY, then bluestarone Nov 2023 #40

If he were duly elected, he would be the president we richly deserve. GreenEyedLefty Nov 2023 #41

Absolutely. The nation will get what it deserves. And it deserve way better than that... brush Nov 2023 #121

I didn't accept him as the legitimate president doc03 Nov 2023 #43

If Trump wins.. DemocratInPa Nov 2023 #44

Well, I wouldn't murder Capitol police, Aristus Nov 2023 #45

Not for any of the reasons you provided. Dan Nov 2023 #46

No, but I'll have a nice little house for sale in Illinois. sinkingfeeling Nov 2023 #47

I would seriously consider leaving the country Maeve Nov 2023 #50

LOL, is this some kind of trick question?? ZERO chance!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2023 #52

We cannot afford the opportunity to be president. LiberalFighter Nov 2023 #53

NEVER FelineOverlord Nov 2023 #54

It doesn't matter whether you accept him or not Army Brat Nov 2023 #56

Because there is nothing remotely Enoki33 Nov 2023 #58

I didn't in 2016 and I wouldn't in 2024. RobertDevereaux Nov 2023 #59

If wishes were horses, even beggars would ride. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #60

NO Rebl2 Nov 2023 #61

No! prairierose Nov 2023 #63

Hopefully that's a bridge I never have to cross. Progressive dog Nov 2023 #64

I didn't accept him last time and I would not accept him this time. totodeinhere Nov 2023 #65

And how did not accepting him last time impact your actions? onenote Nov 2023 #73

Why do there have to be specific actions if you simply do not recognize his presidency? kentuck Nov 2023 #78

If you don't "recognize" his presidency but obey the laws he signs and the decisions of his appointees onenote Nov 2023 #102

I would not recognize any of his actions as president as legitimate. kentuck Nov 2023 #108

So, if he signs a law, you will refuse to obey it? If a court hands down a decision, whether you agree or not, onenote Nov 2023 #111

I would not support anarchy... kentuck Nov 2023 #115

If he's duly elected, and there are not valid constitutional or statutory grounds for challenging his election onenote Nov 2023 #116

We should hope there would be constitutional and statutory tools available... kentuck Nov 2023 #120

I had zero respect for him claudette Nov 2023 #80

You should have less respect now. kentuck Nov 2023 #82

It did not affect my actions as much totodeinhere Nov 2023 #92

Yes and No nt GuppyGal Nov 2023 #66

I parrot North Shore Chicago Nov 2023 #68

NO! dmr Nov 2023 #69

Will not allow myself to even seriously ponder. Prairie_Seagull Nov 2023 #70

If your answer is no, I'm curious what that means to you. Would you support a coup? Our own J6? tritsofme Nov 2023 #71

How can a traitorous, indicted criminal defendant be "legitimate means"? kentuck Nov 2023 #74

Ok, so if the courts disagree with you on disqualification, and he manages to win tritsofme Nov 2023 #90

Then, I think the "coup" that started in 2021 would be complete. kentuck Nov 2023 #100

So you would not support a coup in 2025? Just making sure. tritsofme Nov 2023 #105

First of all, I do not think Democrats could organize a coup. kentuck Nov 2023 #110

What I am reading here, Bayard Nov 2023 #72

If "democracy is lost", then would that not make it illegitimate? kentuck Nov 2023 #75

I should have phrased it better Bayard Nov 2023 #126

No claudette Nov 2023 #77

Crazy situation: What if he's elected, and then the SC rules the 14th Amendment says he can't take office Polybius Nov 2023 #81

Trump's vice presidential running mate would become president. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #93

It's guesswork if it happens before the EC meets in December Polybius Nov 2023 #96

I guess your question was rhetorical then? LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #112

I was asking opinions of what people think SHOULD happen in that event Polybius Nov 2023 #122

I would not accept the criminal insurrectionist as my president. brush Nov 2023 #84

The politics of "acceptance" is unhelpful. David__77 Nov 2023 #85

Absolutely not. BigDemVoter Nov 2023 #87

"legitimate", afraid not, but, as president, yes. republianmushroom Nov 2023 #88

If he wins, he's the lawful president according to the Constitution. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #89

Did I accept bush over Gore? Marthe48 Nov 2023 #95

Unfortunately, yes - if it was a free and fair election Poiuyt Nov 2023 #101

No, I would not accept him Kennah Nov 2023 #103

Hell no!! LW1977 Nov 2023 #106

NO. And the fact that he participated in an insurrection too, to overthrow or interrupt the doings of SWBTATTReg Nov 2023 #113

Being of a half glass full mindset Bludogdem Nov 2023 #127

I'm much more concerned about what happens if pigs begin to fly, that's much more likely than TFG redux. marble falls Nov 2023 #128

Well, he does Bludogdem Nov 2023 #129

No no no no ......a milliontimes no !!!!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Nov 2023 #130

No way. liberalla Nov 2023 #131

HELL no. B.See Nov 2023 #132

We need to crawl over glass and do whatever it takes ecstatic Nov 2023 #133

Yep. I'd be the loyal opposition, but would support the flag and the system gulliver Nov 2023 #134

Yes I'd accept it Arazi Nov 2023 #137

I need the questionably credible SCOTUS to interpret 14th Amendment Model35mech Nov 2023 #139

No i would not. ArnoldLayne Nov 2023 #140

No. roamer65 Nov 2023 #142

Yes because we don't have any choice. Kaleva Nov 2023 #143

NO AND HELL NO vapor2 Nov 2023 #145

No dai13sy Nov 2023 #146

no pfitz59 Nov 2023 #148