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kentuck

(111,147 posts) Fri Nov 24, 2023, 09:03 AM Nov 2023

If Trump were to win election, would you accept him as a legitimate President? [View all]

Would you accept as your President a criminal defendant with 91 charges against him? Sooner or later, he must stop saying he is the "victim".

Would you accept someone who stole military secrets and incited insurrection against our country? And has spoken out against the Constitution which defines our very being as a nation.

Do you think that guy would be a legitimate president?

I think the Republican Party needs to get its shit together. The people are not going to accept this criminal wannabe autocrat. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it?

Personally, I could not accept him as the Leader of our Country. That is just one opinion.

If he were to win, it would be a most divisive and angry victory.

How that would manifest itself, I do not know.

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If Trump were to win election, would you accept him as a legitimate President? [View all] kentuck Nov 2023 OP

No samplegirl Nov 2023 #1

No. Goddessartist Nov 2023 #2

I don't know Bettie Nov 2023 #3

I can Polybius Nov 2023 #76

Apparently we have different definitions of "legitimate" brooklynite Nov 2023 #4

Irrelevant to you. But not irrelevant to many others. kentuck Nov 2023 #6

How others think is also irrelevant. brooklynite Nov 2023 #7

And that is OK with you? kentuck Nov 2023 #8

Whether its "OK" or not is equally irrelevant. brooklynite Nov 2023 #9

Like I said... kentuck Nov 2023 #10

It is an opinion and I chose to express another. brooklynite Nov 2023 #11

The point is that it could be a divisive and potentially violent election. kentuck Nov 2023 #19

I'm with brooklynite on this PJMcK Nov 2023 #20

It reminds me of the often quoted line.... kentuck Nov 2023 #24

Other than conventional political opposition, what would you suggest constitutes "taking a stand"? tritsofme Nov 2023 #67

Exactly. trump already promised to round up immigrants, pen them in camps.. brush Nov 2023 #114

Seriously? Ms. Toad Nov 2023 #144

your favorite reason for NJCher Nov 2023 #51

I've been here 20+ years and my opinions are frequently "unpopular"... brooklynite Nov 2023 #62

If Trump's elected, Schumer almost certainly won't be Majority Leader Polybius Nov 2023 #83

Some people have the resources to Bettie Nov 2023 #99

Clearly not a popular statement Patton French Nov 2023 #135

I prefer not to speculate over something that is not going to happen. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #5

Assuming Trump can't get elected is dangerously naive. brooklynite Nov 2023 #12

Especially since there are so many independents running womanofthehills Nov 2023 #48

That's a precarious position PJMcK Nov 2023 #21

There's only about a third of 'Mericans who are stupid enough to vote for him again. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #97

That's all he needs. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #107

I didn't accept him last time, yet there he was being President. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2023 #13

The Republicans I know, can't stop talking about Obama to this day womanofthehills Nov 2023 #49

Some of them still fantasize that any day now Mariana Nov 2023 #125

NO way, Jose! ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2023 #14

Constitutionally, he would be the "legitimate" president. onenote Nov 2023 #15

Actually, Constitutionally he should not even be on a ballot according to the 14 Amendment... brush Nov 2023 #117

I didn't the first time. spanone Nov 2023 #16

If "The People" choose not to vote, vote third party or for Trump, of course he's the legitimate president. betsuni Nov 2023 #17

NO! Charging Triceratops Nov 2023 #18

Its not a fraud because it was approved by the Constitiutional Convention brooklynite Nov 2023 #79

What is the alternative? milestogo Nov 2023 #22

if he won a resounding victory including the popular vote LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #23

Of course if..fish..had..wings Nov 2023 #25

-- NJCher Nov 2023 #57

In the same way as Taylor Swift is a great classical musician. chouchou Nov 2023 #26

Hey, don't knock Taylor Swift. She's a staunch progressive, and incidentally one of the most powerful... brush Nov 2023 #118

Not knocking her. chouchou Nov 2023 #123

Totally agree. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2023 #124

I'd prefer the gulag Ponietz Nov 2023 #27

I would have to question this Zambero Nov 2023 #28

Exactly! kentuck Nov 2023 #33

Yes, wannabe dictator trump has already promised retribution. That means us on the left. brush Nov 2023 #119

Only if he were to win a legitimate election tavernier Nov 2023 #29

I'm with you. As horrible as that would be, if the election was legitmate, I Raven Nov 2023 #35

What if he were to lose the popular vote again, but win the EC? Polybius Nov 2023 #86

Of course it would be legally legitimate. Kind of a strange question. tritsofme Nov 2023 #91

I agree with you Polybius Nov 2023 #94

I don't keep two sets of books. tritsofme Nov 2023 #109

No tavernier Nov 2023 #104

Not the 1st time EX500rider Nov 2023 #136

Actually, 5 times counting 1824 Polybius Nov 2023 #138

Were all those legitimate? EX500rider Nov 2023 #141

I agree Polybius Nov 2023 #147

What are the critiera to confer legitimacy? Shrek Nov 2023 #30

Perhaps an intact criminal justice system? Ponietz Nov 2023 #42

He won't win but no. He is an insurrectionists and plans to kill his enemies IHMO. Demsrule86 Nov 2023 #31

How is Biden going to win Michigan at this point? womanofthehills Nov 2023 #55

He can win it by being Not the Fascist Guy ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #98

Heck no Ritabert Nov 2023 #32

nope. Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #34

I was appalled that he was in the White House the first time and KPN Nov 2023 #36

No. Not if he is convicted of even one charge. lees1975 Nov 2023 #37

OH HELL NO. 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Nov 2023 #38

There is a lot of nasty things we would have to learn to accept. Chainfire Nov 2023 #39

OK, i hate that bastard, probably MORE than anyone here. Now, IF and i say IF again he's elected LEGITIMATELY, then bluestarone Nov 2023 #40

If he were duly elected, he would be the president we richly deserve. GreenEyedLefty Nov 2023 #41

Absolutely. The nation will get what it deserves. And it deserve way better than that... brush Nov 2023 #121

I didn't accept him as the legitimate president doc03 Nov 2023 #43

If Trump wins.. DemocratInPa Nov 2023 #44

Well, I wouldn't murder Capitol police, Aristus Nov 2023 #45

Not for any of the reasons you provided. Dan Nov 2023 #46

No, but I'll have a nice little house for sale in Illinois. sinkingfeeling Nov 2023 #47

I would seriously consider leaving the country Maeve Nov 2023 #50

LOL, is this some kind of trick question?? ZERO chance!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2023 #52

We cannot afford the opportunity to be president. LiberalFighter Nov 2023 #53

NEVER FelineOverlord Nov 2023 #54

It doesn't matter whether you accept him or not Army Brat Nov 2023 #56

Because there is nothing remotely Enoki33 Nov 2023 #58

I didn't in 2016 and I wouldn't in 2024. RobertDevereaux Nov 2023 #59

If wishes were horses, even beggars would ride. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2023 #60

NO Rebl2 Nov 2023 #61

No! prairierose Nov 2023 #63

Hopefully that's a bridge I never have to cross. Progressive dog Nov 2023 #64

I didn't accept him last time and I would not accept him this time. totodeinhere Nov 2023 #65

And how did not accepting him last time impact your actions? onenote Nov 2023 #73

Why do there have to be specific actions if you simply do not recognize his presidency? kentuck Nov 2023 #78

If you don't "recognize" his presidency but obey the laws he signs and the decisions of his appointees onenote Nov 2023 #102

I would not recognize any of his actions as president as legitimate. kentuck Nov 2023 #108

So, if he signs a law, you will refuse to obey it? If a court hands down a decision, whether you agree or not, onenote Nov 2023 #111

I would not support anarchy... kentuck Nov 2023 #115

If he's duly elected, and there are not valid constitutional or statutory grounds for challenging his election onenote Nov 2023 #116

We should hope there would be constitutional and statutory tools available... kentuck Nov 2023 #120

I had zero respect for him claudette Nov 2023 #80

You should have less respect now. kentuck Nov 2023 #82

It did not affect my actions as much totodeinhere Nov 2023 #92

Yes and No nt GuppyGal Nov 2023 #66

I parrot North Shore Chicago Nov 2023 #68

NO! dmr Nov 2023 #69

Will not allow myself to even seriously ponder. Prairie_Seagull Nov 2023 #70

If your answer is no, I'm curious what that means to you. Would you support a coup? Our own J6? tritsofme Nov 2023 #71

How can a traitorous, indicted criminal defendant be "legitimate means"? kentuck Nov 2023 #74

Ok, so if the courts disagree with you on disqualification, and he manages to win tritsofme Nov 2023 #90

Then, I think the "coup" that started in 2021 would be complete. kentuck Nov 2023 #100

So you would not support a coup in 2025? Just making sure. tritsofme Nov 2023 #105

First of all, I do not think Democrats could organize a coup. kentuck Nov 2023 #110

What I am reading here, Bayard Nov 2023 #72

If "democracy is lost", then would that not make it illegitimate? kentuck Nov 2023 #75

I should have phrased it better Bayard Nov 2023 #126

No claudette Nov 2023 #77

Crazy situation: What if he's elected, and then the SC rules the 14th Amendment says he can't take office Polybius Nov 2023 #81

Trump's vice presidential running mate would become president. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #93

It's guesswork if it happens before the EC meets in December Polybius Nov 2023 #96

I guess your question was rhetorical then? LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #112

I was asking opinions of what people think SHOULD happen in that event Polybius Nov 2023 #122

I would not accept the criminal insurrectionist as my president. brush Nov 2023 #84

The politics of "acceptance" is unhelpful. David__77 Nov 2023 #85

Absolutely not. BigDemVoter Nov 2023 #87

"legitimate", afraid not, but, as president, yes. republianmushroom Nov 2023 #88

If he wins, he's the lawful president according to the Constitution. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #89

Did I accept bush over Gore? Marthe48 Nov 2023 #95

Unfortunately, yes - if it was a free and fair election Poiuyt Nov 2023 #101

No, I would not accept him Kennah Nov 2023 #103

Hell no!! LW1977 Nov 2023 #106

NO. And the fact that he participated in an insurrection too, to overthrow or interrupt the doings of SWBTATTReg Nov 2023 #113

Being of a half glass full mindset Bludogdem Nov 2023 #127

I'm much more concerned about what happens if pigs begin to fly, that's much more likely than TFG redux. marble falls Nov 2023 #128

Well, he does Bludogdem Nov 2023 #129

No no no no ......a milliontimes no !!!!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Nov 2023 #130

No way. liberalla Nov 2023 #131

HELL no. B.See Nov 2023 #132

We need to crawl over glass and do whatever it takes ecstatic Nov 2023 #133

Yep. I'd be the loyal opposition, but would support the flag and the system gulliver Nov 2023 #134

Yes I'd accept it Arazi Nov 2023 #137

I need the questionably credible SCOTUS to interpret 14th Amendment Model35mech Nov 2023 #139

No i would not. ArnoldLayne Nov 2023 #140

No. roamer65 Nov 2023 #142

Yes because we don't have any choice. Kaleva Nov 2023 #143

NO AND HELL NO vapor2 Nov 2023 #145

No dai13sy Nov 2023 #146

no pfitz59 Nov 2023 #148