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Tom Rinaldo

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Tue Oct 23, 2012, 11:13 AM Oct 2012

Romney Was Afraid of Something Last Night [View all]

It wasn't so much his policy shifts, which pretty much left him endorsing Obama's foreign policy agenda - though there certainly was that too. It was the personality transplant that Romney underwent before the last debate. Gone was Romney the assertive dominating bully who stalked the first two debates, replaced for the season finale by "nice guy" Mitt instead. Nice guy Mitt made sure to give the President ample credit for a plethora of correct strategic moves, but even more striking, nice guy Mitt was dutifully respectful to the debates' moderator. This Mitt Romney left his bulldozer parked at home.

At no point was that more striking than when Romney checked his bullying instincts in the face of a gentle Bob Schieffer reprimand. After momentarily reverting to aggressive form by demanding a chance to respond to what he characterized as a long list of Obama's objectionable assertions, Romney meekly folded his cards when Schieffer noted that he too had previously rattled off a similar litany of charges against the President, to which Romney conceded that the moderator had a point. This wasn't the same Romney who nearly engaged in hand to hand combat with Candy Crowley. Something was clearly amiss. Once again, the chameleon’s skin has turned.

Over the last few years, Mitt Romney has become the archetype of the political chameleon, morphing how he displays himself to blend into a changing political landscape. But rarely has he changed colors as quickly and dramatically as he did in front of America last night. Less anyone forget for a moment, Mitt Romney is after all a card carrying Republican, and Republican’s always go on the offensive against Democrats in whatever area they perceive the Democrat to be strongest. Both Romney and Ryan have tried that this year in areas of traditional Democratic strength like Medicare and Social Security. Confronted with a Democratic President who actually got Bin Ladin, Mitt Romney had consistently played true to form, attacking hard from the Right; that is until last night.

Last night Mitt Romney embraced humanity and earnestly promised to give peace a chance. That line change was clearly manifest on the policy front, but it was even more starkly evident in Mitt Romney’s new pleasantly compliant persona. So what exactly was going on during this last Presidential debate? Well, in politics there is always more than one theory. Some would argue that the electorate was simply were given another dose of “Moderate Mitt”, the proverbial and much anticipated move toward the center that Romney came perilously close to never getting around to this year. That fails to pass the smell test however.

Republicans have traditionally been viewed as suspect by much of the middle class when it comes to economic allegiances. A move toward the center on economics is understandable, and sure enough, belatedly, they made one there. National Security is a different matter. Republicans long reveled in being the “Daddy” Party in America. Their ace card repeatedly is to make Democrats seem week. Last night Mitt Romney made President Obama look strong Democrats can make a damn good campaign ad if they want to out of snippets of Romney praising the President’s foreign policy

It could also be argued that Mitt Romney was trying for a repeat of his “throw the President off stride” strategy used in the first debate, when he unexpectedly denied supporting almost everything he had vehemently supported over the last few years. In a word to that one; Nah. Barack Obama is a smart man. His debate prep team is not made up of slouches. Whether or not Romney chose the debate stance most expected, he no longer had recourse to an element of surprise. Obama was not caught off guard, nor could Romney have expected him to be. Changing one’s positions on the cusp of a national election comes with a real set of risks. Romney would not attempt it simply on the off chance to throwing Obama off.

The most plausible theory offered in any way favorable to Mitt Romney goes something along these lines. Mitt Romney was playing prevent defense, trying to avoid any mistakes that would blunt his supposed electoral momentum that has him on an alleged trajectory to win. Americans it appears are overall comfortable with the Obama foreign policy, so if Mitt Romney is comfortable with that too, well then Americans should be comfortable with Romney also. No scary new world order to worry about from Romney, just Barack Obama’s policies without Barack Obama.

If Mitt Romney had a clear and easy path to an Electoral College majority, perhaps a prevent defense strategy could be tempting, but the lay of the land doesn’t bear that scenario out. At best it can be argued that there is a path possible to 270 votes for Romney but there is nothing clear and easy about it. There is no way it can be argued that Mitt Romney is attempting to sit on a “safe” lead. Projecting mildness is not a winning strategy for unseating a personally popular President.

I think the real answer lies in the nature of real chameleons. They don’t change colors because they are frustrated art majors; they change colors to protect themselves from danger. When a political campaign senses trouble there is usually some shake up at the top. In this case the shake up was in Mitt Romney himself. The sudden emergence of “Nice guy Mitt”, and make no mistake it has been sudden, indicates a problem, some type of political threat. I don’t have access to the Romney team’s focus groups, or to their own internal polling, but I suspect there is something going on there that made them change their stripes.

Mitt Romney was down right passive during the final Presidential debate, and we all saw what that did for Barack Obama during the first one. Why play that roll now, especially on foreign policy, where so much emphasis is routinely placed on the ability to face down real or potential adversaries? My guess is that Mitt Romney’s negatives were rearing their ugly heads. My guess is a lot of voters feel leery about electing a bully to be President, especially one who represents a party that shouts loudly and carries a big gun, with a long standing inclination for starting new Middle East wars.

During the second Presidential debate Americans saw Mitt Romney try to run over Candy Crowley. This time he backed down and let Bob Schieffer scold him. The chameleon changed again. That’s because he had something to fear.

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He's afraid that he's spent a shitload of his own money on an election he's going to lose slackmaster Oct 2012 #1
I have read nothing about him putting his own money in for this campaign Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #29
Why are you defending Mitt Romney? slackmaster Oct 2012 #31
He didn't spend any of his own money. George II Oct 2012 #52
He's only a billionaire, so he doesn't have much to spare, poor man. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #71
he's a multi-millionaire, not billionaire Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #128
There has been a lot of speculation that he is actually a billionaire. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #131
Sometimes Harry is just being silly. It's pretty rough to hide $750 million from the prying Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #133
I think his handlers told him to stop acting like a petulant little child, stop acting like a ass crunch60 Oct 2012 #124
Bain Capital. Don't know why Obama did not bring it up. He had a perfect opportunity to do it. L0oniX Oct 2012 #2
I was hoping that President Obama would have brought up Sensata on the topic of China. BelleCarolinaPeridot Oct 2012 #4
me too. mopinko Oct 2012 #9
Well I guess that President Obama felt he slammed Romney enough with crunch60 Oct 2012 #125
I expect Rmoney was well prepared with a bullshit response for it BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #10
My take too. Obama did not give him the opportunity to respond to it. I imagine Romney had a very OregonBlue Oct 2012 #70
Don't you sometimes get femrap Oct 2012 #108
I have come to believe that Mittens lapfog_1 Oct 2012 #3
He didn't look just ill-at-ease PatSeg Oct 2012 #15
Wonder if Mormons are allowed to take psych drugs flamingdem Oct 2012 #32
Yeah maybe PatSeg Oct 2012 #54
I think it hit Romney like a brick.. as to how unprepared he is for the job of POTUS, on every level crunch60 Oct 2012 #126
His relentless, driving ambition PatSeg Oct 2012 #129
He has been raised to believe he is the answer to the Mormon prophecy regarding the presidency. jwirr Oct 2012 #135
Meanwhile he is living in that bubble PatSeg Oct 2012 #137
Here in Utah the joke is all Mormon women are on Prozac. Hamlette Oct 2012 #90
The men probably borrow their wives Prozac PatSeg Oct 2012 #98
Pretty much all psych drugs cause dry mouth TexasBushwhacker Oct 2012 #107
And I don't recall seeing PatSeg Oct 2012 #113
LOL! Remember Bush and his crack jaw movements during the debate? Th1onein Oct 2012 #118
ha! check this Gabi Hayes Oct 2012 #136
A republican candidate for president who has a mental condition... Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #45
Like in PatSeg Oct 2012 #53
Ann was actually Mme. Defarge Oct 2012 #55
I just commented on a post suggesting the same thing PatSeg Oct 2012 #68
I noticed that, too! 2Legit Oct 2012 #84
Maybe a little bit of both PatSeg Oct 2012 #87
sounds like food poisoning SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #93
Or a reaction to a medication PatSeg Oct 2012 #96
The picture of Mrs. Mitt-Ann with her arms wrapped around his waist from behind was just plain sad sally Oct 2012 #111
She was unzipping him Kennah Oct 2012 #122
That picture is even more disturbing PatSeg Oct 2012 #130
He tried to play it "safe" like Obama did in the first debate Jersey Devil Oct 2012 #5
He is afraid of losing the womens' vote ginnyinWI Oct 2012 #6
excellent point, but I also think he was playing it "safe" as stated above (nt) Jersey Devil Oct 2012 #8
He's trying to court the women again BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #7
+1 trying to come across as not the war monger he really is...reassure women, mods, indies amborin Oct 2012 #57
I think he was buying the bogus polls that he had the women's votes. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #11
He was trying to negate the image he created for himself at VMI the other week. stubtoe Oct 2012 #12
Bingo! It wasn't fear we were seeing. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #88
Contrary to what many believe, I actually believe Mitt Romney is an intelligent man RomneyLies Oct 2012 #13
But it wasn't just a policy change Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #14
He is not drool on yourself stupid but he lacks perception and empathy KurtNYC Oct 2012 #17
He said "tumult" at least 3 times re:the Middle East. He seemed confused. AlinPA Oct 2012 #46
He lacks Empathy and compassion... I don't think he's inperceptive however Hemp_is_good Oct 2012 #49
if that be the case, it should terrify him. Bolton and the other NeoCon vipers just waiting for.... Raster Oct 2012 #19
Or, perhaps he understands that people will connect the time line dots and see that Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #20
You mean you are not willing to cross into crass partisanship? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #23
In geography, not so much. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #35
Since most Americans cannot locate the US on a map nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #44
You don't necessarily get there by being SMART, either Scootaloo Oct 2012 #94
Hmmmm libodem Oct 2012 #59
Political plus intelligence briefings unc70 Oct 2012 #16
Agree marions ghost Oct 2012 #18
Maybe someone has the tax returns? randome Oct 2012 #21
That was thoughtful and a couple cuts above The Second Stone Oct 2012 #22
"the usual DU posting"---I DARE you to start a thread with this asinine and condescending title. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #37
The usual DU posting is nowhere near as thoughtful or worked out as Tom Rinaldo's OP. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #72
He lost the second debate and then the last one was on Obama's strongest area. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #24
Well written piece! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #25
I was going.to say so too libodem Oct 2012 #69
I concur. amandabeech Oct 2012 #85
He couldn't compete on foreign policy sunnystarr Oct 2012 #26
Yes, I think so Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #28
That's because it was going to cost him anyway sunnystarr Oct 2012 #134
A Salesman Trying To Close The Sale... KharmaTrain Oct 2012 #27
You've nailed it. And apparently and chattering class - including Dems - bought it. chimpymustgo Oct 2012 #33
A Lot Of Money Flying Around Right Now... KharmaTrain Oct 2012 #40
Salesmanship and playing it safe lindysalsagal Oct 2012 #110
Nikki Haley. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #30
Jeb. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #41
Jeb and Paul Ryan will be fighting it out for 2016 DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #48
She WILL give the victor there a much-deserved beat-down! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #61
Jeb doesn't want it. TrogL Oct 2012 #81
I think he was sick. crazylikafox Oct 2012 #56
He always minces his steps. Ineeda Oct 2012 #86
No opinion on Haley chances; Rest of your post is nonsense that's a mirror image of Freeper threads: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #76
Hehehe.... is that right? The Doctor. Oct 2012 #99
Your first paragraph is spot on, and then you go off the rails. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #102
I didn't call you ignorant. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #103
Oh, and I'd love for you to explain just how THIS is 'off the rails: The Doctor. Oct 2012 #104
The problem here is the GOP as a force is dead leftstreet Oct 2012 #106
I really do hope you're right. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #109
Your thesis and logic is PCIntern Oct 2012 #123
I would not bet on that. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #78
Good to know. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #100
OK, so THAT'S what it was TrogL Oct 2012 #34
Except for the two times he knifed through the President's attempts to respond to his running Aldo Leopold Oct 2012 #36
Oh he did, did he? I didn't see the debate Cha Oct 2012 #119
I disagree, unless you argue that he's now afraid of his BO$$E$. Romney, IMO, has come to see Obama WinkyDink Oct 2012 #38
What if Rmoney already knows that he has an Electoral College victory... madinmaryland Oct 2012 #39
Even if that worries you, it is too soon for him to count on that Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #58
Or if he knows he's about to down in flames? WinkyDink Oct 2012 #63
yep heaven05 Oct 2012 #77
I'm telling you, he's got daddy issues.... and he backed down to Schieffer, not out of respect... tomm2thumbs Oct 2012 #42
I think he was hurt and humbled by The Salt Lake City Trib's endorsement of Obama. ancianita Oct 2012 #43
I thought he looked like he'd been given a mild tranquilizer. proReality Oct 2012 #47
Dr Pepper is caffeinated. n/t eggplant Oct 2012 #65
He received his first-ever total beat-down last week MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #50
Not first ever Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #62
Teddy was a fellow 1%er and daddy figure. This time the beat down was by magical thyme Oct 2012 #75
When Romney Went On An Extended Talk DallasNE Oct 2012 #51
Yeah, it is. Thanks for pointing that out, DallasNE nm Cha Oct 2012 #120
Perhaps he was drunk or suffering dementia. ;-) dsharp88 Oct 2012 #60
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #64
Just like I'd be afraid to get in the ring with Ali ... Bake Oct 2012 #66
I think a lot of it was because he was seated at a table with the others nini Oct 2012 #67
Seems to me that there were several things going on with Romney at the debate---- Grammy23 Oct 2012 #73
This was decaffeinated Mitt. Jennicut Oct 2012 #74
lol They hid his stash of Red Bull! Of course! nm Cha Oct 2012 #121
It may have been a combination of shifting tactics and illness magical thyme Oct 2012 #79
I think it was simply that he knew going in that he was not well-versed in Foreign Policy. DawgHouse Oct 2012 #80
Yep, blow back, but also shifting tactics. GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #91
Maybe he was taking a clue from "The Opposite" Seinfeld show Peregrine Took Oct 2012 #82
For what it's worth bucolic_frolic Oct 2012 #83
The tone was VERY different. Personally, I think taxes and closeupready Oct 2012 #89
The sun ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #92
I think so too... kentuck Oct 2012 #95
What willard did last night was take this election down to it's most EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #97
Romney Was Afraid of Something Last Night: Being exposed as the lightweight he really is. mikeytherat Oct 2012 #101
I think mercuryblues Oct 2012 #105
I think his fear is that something...... mrmpa Oct 2012 #112
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Dubster Oct 2012 #114
He knew he'd get his clock cleaned going head to head on foreign policy. pointsoflight Oct 2012 #115
Brilliant read, Tom Rinaldo..Thank you! Cha Oct 2012 #116
I read somewhere that he had dropped in women's support because of his dickishness. Michigan Alum Oct 2012 #117
OR MAYBE HE'S JUST BI-POLAR BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #127
If there was a position called president of planet earth donna123 Oct 2012 #132
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