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Showing Original Post only (View all)Updated list of bad poll firms to those that do not know. (7) [View all]
Last edited Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:41 PM - Edit history (4)
edit to add list to first post of bad pollstersRasmussen
Gravis
ARG- American Research Group
Crossroads GPS
Strategic Alliance
American Crossroads
weaskamerica (we ask america)
and Gallup's LV skewered heavily to the south
keep them coming in.
I know alot of you already realize that, but for the many who don't
This year, those sites that average different polls out, like my personal favorite,
electoral-vote.com have started listing a separate page which takes out all Rasmussen(fox propaganda) polls out.
So they show two different pages. One with, one without.
HOWEVER, what seems to have happened (OOH, COINCIDENCE, AT THE SAME TIME)- is
Karl Rove and the boys and Ras started brand new poll firms to do polls reflecting the same Rasmussen stuff as the one now not taken seriously.
Then they release new polls ALL AT THE SAME TIME, therefore
when pollsters like Nate Silver and others and electoral-vote himself, do the daily new polls,
it skewers it totally to the rightwing polls and keeps it there for days.
IMPORTANT ***** THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH NORMAL REGULAR POLLS TO OFFSET AN AVERAGE IF 4 OR 5 OR 6 POLLS ARE INCLUDED FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
THE WEIGHT OF THE POLLS ALL BEING EQUAL has distorted everything (which is the goal of those
and furthermore- it leads to the demoralization of our side, with one negative post after another about polls(and even when a poster is finally caught and tossed, a new one will attempt to do the same thing
Negativity then gets more negativity and the demoralization of 'the troops" is done.
And Karl Rove and the boys are smiling ever after.
(this is one reason I and others here, so desperately were trying to keep things positive the last 2 weeks in a sea of negativity, and my comment about potted plants being spotted in our garden and my comments about debbie downers and sad sams and cutten runners.
We need to remember this about polls- and we should bombard the pollsters themselves who give averages like Nate Silver, telling them to tell us the averages if all the Ras & other named firms lurking that are doing Rove's work, are taken out of the equation
So we see a true picture each day.
BTW-Electoral-vote today has Obama at 290-Mitt at 239 with 9 tied each way, meaning
EVEN WITH ALL THE RIGHTWING POLLS INCLUDED, MITT STILL HAS NO EASY WAY OF BREAKING THROUGH TO 270, as I for one cannot believe some of the recent turns of states to red(NOW INCLUDED IN MITTS 239) will remain Mitt's.
Obama has this thing won, no matter how many fake polls are used.
However, we need to all figure out some solution about names of polls and who in reality backs them behind the curtain and get rid of them from the equation if the Nate Silver's actually want to report REAL HARD NEWS and not try to become a superstar sellout(like Chuck Todd for instance).
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Updated list of bad poll firms to those that do not know. (7) [View all]
graham4anything
Oct 2012
OP
I think most DUers know this but we need to make our family and friends aware of this and perhaps
kelliekat44
Oct 2012
#1
Because the polls are being "influenced" to the right by Rove, so is the Electoral Map.
OldDem2012
Oct 2012
#12
Bad pollsters-Rasmussen Gravis ARG(american research group)Crossroads American Crossroads
graham4anything
Oct 2012
#5
I am one who did not know and I appreciate your taking the time to explain it to me(us?)
byeya
Oct 2012
#6
So ,then, the RupubliKKKan machine creates these spurious polls to make the election appear
byeya
Oct 2012
#16
Chuck Todd is a tool! I guess he figured out that the shift of MSM more to the right, he would
Dustlawyer
Oct 2012
#17
Similar things happened to me (in VA) and to another DUer (in Iowa)--see this thread:
spooky3
Oct 2012
#28
I have an answering machine that says out loud who the caller is. If I don't recognize the name
Grammy23
Oct 2012
#34
because we have a chance to win the house and 56 in the senate that's why. And 2014 and 2020 22 24
graham4anything
Oct 2012
#32