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Eleanors38

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102. Probably a good solution for you. I have several firearms, locked up to prevent
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 02:58 PM
Oct 2012

criminals and thugs from getting them.

My Dad taught me as a child how to use and fire a gun. We had some 40 firearms with four kids. No one worried.

+1. Hoyt Oct 2012 #1
It must be rough only getting to troll the occasional GD gun related thread NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #3
No, truthfully it's refreshing not posting to people who need a gun strapped Hoyt Oct 2012 #9
Actually fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #13
How odd. I don't see the government trying to interfere with D.U. anywhere. PavePusher Oct 2012 #65
You got lucky. A jury voted 3-3 on what is clearly and only a personal attack Electric Monk Oct 2012 #25
Had the post been hidden it would have made a grand total of 2 Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #37
whatever. Your post above makes DU suck. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #132
That is of course your opinion and you are entitled to it. Good day NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #174
+1000!! G_j Oct 2012 #200
And there you have it. Just Romney-around enough, you'll get your way... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #89
So you accuse a long time member of trolling Kingofalldems Oct 2012 #33
No, when the 'king of all trolls' accuses other of trolling it must be a slow day in the gun forum DainBramaged Oct 2012 #55
Check out the history of this Forum/group.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #90
Oh so a high post count protects you? Missycim Oct 2012 #206
Trolling has one meaning in DU Kingofalldems Oct 2012 #214
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #216
Speaking of trolls SecularMotion Oct 2012 #222
So you think it's ok to try and intimidate others in GD? DainBramaged Oct 2012 #42
Wow. If you think that is "intimidation", you've led a very sheltered life. PavePusher Oct 2012 #66
I would suggest same for those who have to strap a gun or two on to venture into public. Hoyt Oct 2012 #77
Wharfgarble. What fun!! n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #96
Do you think there's a market for adult diapers equipped with holsters? Scootaloo Oct 2012 #112
I am required to "strap a gun on" to go to work every day Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #121
When you are not working, whatayoudo with your guns? Hoyt Oct 2012 #177
First I have to clarify that when I'm done working I'm usually home for the day Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #185
How's that working out for you, Trunk Monkey? Scootaloo Oct 2012 #101
I've seen that dog all over with your posts... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #147
It's not a dog! Scootaloo Oct 2012 #164
I dunno... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #167
My jimmies are unrustled n/t Scootaloo Oct 2012 #169
Sane account! K&R burrowowl Oct 2012 #2
There's needs to be laws passed that make assault , suicide and violence against other people illegal former-republican Oct 2012 #4
Why should Suicide be illegal? Taverner Oct 2012 #224
So if guns are such a public health threat hack89 Oct 2012 #5
You have no business posting in this thread former-republican Oct 2012 #6
Hogwash fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #14
Wrong hack89 Oct 2012 #30
And there is your confusion: murder rates are not total firearm related deaths. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #83
Gun deaths are down in absolute numbers too hack89 Oct 2012 #105
you are talking about crime stats. The CDC numbers are not the same at all. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #130
It is really two separate problems. hack89 Oct 2012 #139
The post specifically says that the odds of being murdered hack89 Oct 2012 #142
Math is hard. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #184
Always a logic fail with you bongbong Oct 2012 #201
Feel free to provide some evidence. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #202
LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #203
So if gun ownership has steadily dropped for 30 years hack89 Oct 2012 #204
Strawman alert! bongbong Oct 2012 #208
Either gun ownership went up or it went down. What is it? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #211
Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993 hack89 Oct 2012 #205
Thanks! bongbong Oct 2012 #207
It dropped to 40% in 1995 and continued to increase for 17 years. hack89 Oct 2012 #210
LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #215
"Gun-involved homicides have increased since falling to a low in 1999" Coexist Oct 2012 #175
I posted stats from 1992 through 2010 hack89 Oct 2012 #188
Gun-involved homicides or homicides over all? NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #36
It means more deaths of amongst households that own guns intaglio Oct 2012 #17
got evidence? eqfan592 Oct 2012 #19
An Explanation for Everything fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #26
So what is your solution? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #34
But with more household having guns hack89 Oct 2012 #31
Maybe it has to do with more trauma centers and better trauma surgeons. Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #49
But non-fatal shootings and accidents are tracked too - and they are down. hack89 Oct 2012 #53
suicides iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #23
But access to guns does not mean higher sucide rates hack89 Oct 2012 #32
Is it wrong that people have a quick and easy way to kill themselves? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #106
Still spouting the same old RW propaganda bullshit, I see. baldguy Oct 2012 #60
Do you disagree that gun violence and deaths have significantly declined in the past 30 years? hack89 Oct 2012 #61
Crime stats are not the issue here. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #84
So we have a public health issue with a declining mortality rate hack89 Oct 2012 #111
Right: "30,000 gun deaths each year isn't a crisis." That's the GOP talking, of course. baldguy Oct 2012 #117
Suicides are a mental health problem hack89 Oct 2012 #191
Might be even less had we said "No" decades ago to those who believe more guns, in more places, Hoyt Oct 2012 #186
And in another decade the rates of gun violence will be even lower. hack89 Oct 2012 #189
Maybe, maybe not. Certainly the rate will be higher than it needs to be. Hoyt Oct 2012 #192
There are good reasons the gun control movement is dead in America hack89 Oct 2012 #193
Support for gun control is soft because it's been endlessly propagandized by the RW for 40 yrs. baldguy Oct 2012 #217
40 percent of Dems own guns hack89 Oct 2012 #218
Gun deaths have not plummeted. They remain at around 30000 annually. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #80
Gun deaths due to murder and manslaughter have been halved hack89 Oct 2012 #109
yes you keep repeating that the murder rate is down. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #128
Suicides are a mental health problem hack89 Oct 2012 #135
But if the odds of.murder or suicide increase with guns hack89 Oct 2012 #144
That, sir or madam, is Crimethink. Zalatix Oct 2012 #82
The issue of "assault rifles" has been discussed numerous times in this forum. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #104
Excellent points. Zalatix Oct 2012 #127
There is an urban myth, with considerable truth to it, that cops are chronically... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #136
What are they doing to research better flash-bangs and non(er, less than?)-lethal weapons? Zalatix Oct 2012 #143
When crime goes up the answer is clear: too many guns. More guns = more crime! 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #110
are there no other factors? booley Oct 2012 #151
But there are two seperate and distinct issues here. hack89 Oct 2012 #190
yes and no booley Oct 2012 #220
Um, evidently you haven't checked the stats in Seattle lately. countryjake Oct 2012 #153
I rather look at the annual FBI crime reports hack89 Oct 2012 #166
National "facts" aside, your statement simply isn't true up here in the PNW... countryjake Oct 2012 #212
Your first problem then is your state constitution. hack89 Oct 2012 #213
knr... spanone Oct 2012 #7
I don't agree with this study Heather MC Oct 2012 #8
Agree - but lethal weapons embolden some folks. Georgie Zimmernan is good example. Hoyt Oct 2012 #10
i know right? iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #16
It's not. sarcasm fail on your part. nt eqfan592 Oct 2012 #20
My garden would look terrible iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #22
guns are people my friend! Heather MC Oct 2012 #51
Jeez, my gun is defective. Hasn't killed anyone in 50+ years.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #100
And Yet fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #27
No wonder we have no real action on gun control. Jkid Oct 2012 #11
That's a big part of it. The other part is that NRA's leadership - including Grover Norquist, John Hoyt Oct 2012 #40
People who have guns will fight to keep them krispos42 Oct 2012 #48
If I have more than 30 firearms in my home how likely am I AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author former-republican Oct 2012 #18
Fact Remains fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #28
increases the risk of SUCCESSFUL suicide perhaps. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #29
Shall we look at that math again hack89 Oct 2012 #198
There are people who smoke a pack a day their entire lives and never get lung cancer. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #133
One pack huh? AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #181
So interesting, I was actually considering buying a rifle Tumbulu Oct 2012 #15
I love this story. n/t FourScore Oct 2012 #21
thanks (nt) Tumbulu Oct 2012 #24
Well yeah... you'd have to actually take it out of your storage location.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #67
No, Just You Being Pissed At The Lack Of Gun Play. Paladin Oct 2012 #71
Ummm... whatever, buddy. PavePusher Oct 2012 #94
The point being that it takes time to go get the rifle, unlock it Tumbulu Oct 2012 #141
Probably a good solution for you. I have several firearms, locked up to prevent Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #102
du rec. nt xchrom Oct 2012 #35
People with bongs in the house are ten times as likely to get high... k2qb3 Oct 2012 #38
LOL! I think you caught the massive flaw in these "studies." nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #97
Looking at the responses in this thread .... etherealtruth Oct 2012 #39
The door to hell opened when 'guns are bad' was written...... DainBramaged Oct 2012 #46
Anytime one proposes a law -- especially a ban -- they must show how such action will resolve... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #114
You might be interested in what the CDC said themselves about gun-control strategies: Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #113
Booze, tobacco, meth, heroin, etc kills hundreds of thousands Ya Basta Oct 2012 #41
If I or my family members can get hit by a stray bullet Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #50
If you have not been harmed you have not been harmed Ya Basta Oct 2012 #57
Well played. Not that it will do any good where prohibition is concerned. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #115
Completely, absolutely wrong. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #54
With that logic then your car threatens my life Ya Basta Oct 2012 #56
And it's silly you need a gun everywhere DainBramaged Oct 2012 #148
The only guns that threaten your life glacierbay Oct 2012 #58
Most of the mass killers where rawtribe Oct 2012 #81
No shit glacierbay Oct 2012 #85
NO rawtribe Oct 2012 #92
Bwaaaahahahahha! PavePusher Oct 2012 #98
I had to take drivers ed rawtribe Oct 2012 #107
"I had to take drivers ed"... Was this a legal requirement of your state? PavePusher Oct 2012 #146
Are you saying all my guns are broken? AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #183
I only need to license a car if I operate it on public roads. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #182
Believe It Or Not, That's Not Very Persuasive. (nt) Paladin Oct 2012 #187
Why not? I have a license to carry a firearm in public. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #197
So I would get a license that is good in every state? hack89 Oct 2012 #194
No they anti-choice crowd won't take that flawed Missycim Oct 2012 #209
Sorry, but corrections to your post are in order: Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #118
Thank the Supreme Court for strengthening the influence of special interests on our government. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #43
We don't need to spend money on frivolous studies to prove that dangerous weapons are dangerous slackmaster Oct 2012 #44
Those who speak out against this OP do not believe in the 1st amendment but otherwise DainBramaged Oct 2012 #45
Because guns are a natural part of the human anatomy that you are born with Crunchy Frog Oct 2012 #52
"Those who speak out against this OP do not believe in the 1st amendment"?!?! PavePusher Oct 2012 #68
Yeah, I felt that thought slip like an old Hydramatic.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #119
Guns are not a leading cause of death krispos42 Oct 2012 #47
Take a look at this Mother Jones article about mass killings. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #59
And most of those shootings happened in gun free zones glacierbay Oct 2012 #62
Missing the point aren't you? GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #63
Not at all glacierbay Oct 2012 #64
Yup yup uhuh yeppers who haw yee haw get the guns boyz we're going out to the movies DainBramaged Oct 2012 #72
Ummmmmm glacierbay Oct 2012 #76
I don't care who you are. DainBramaged Oct 2012 #78
That seems to be your M.O. glacierbay Oct 2012 #86
I don't care that you think that way DainBramaged Oct 2012 #87
You must really think you're insulting me. glacierbay Oct 2012 #93
More fanciful construction, eh? -- Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #123
Interesting how they rest their case on only two data points. PavePusher Oct 2012 #69
Big problem with this outlook, respectfully... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #120
Well, think of it this way... krispos42 Oct 2012 #163
Roughly 2/3 of all murders are by guns in the US. Whovian Oct 2012 #138
You are talking to the deaf through a sunscreen DainBramaged Oct 2012 #152
I know and sigh that the gun industry has absorbed so many into their thinking. Whovian Oct 2012 #154
Back in the day, when I was a kid, people had rifles and shotguns for hunting DainBramaged Oct 2012 #155
Salient points. Whovian Oct 2012 #156
Offender use of firearms (telling statistic) DainBramaged Oct 2012 #157
So what new laws would you propose to elimanate this problem? oneshooter Oct 2012 #170
I doubt you would care for my suggestion. Whovian Oct 2012 #179
Why do I have to propose shit? DainBramaged Oct 2012 #199
Interesting stats. Compared to Canada, the firearm homicide rate per 100,000 is less than 1/5 ... sl8 Oct 2012 #158
Marketing. nt Whovian Oct 2012 #160
The United States had over 25000 firearms deaths last year DainBramaged Oct 2012 #161
No, 2/3rds of all murders are WITH guns in the US krispos42 Oct 2012 #159
Guns as an instrument of murder or assault. In this case 2/3's of murderers decided on a gun. Whovian Oct 2012 #162
A certain percentage of the people that would use a gun would use something else. krispos42 Oct 2012 #178
If owning a gun doesn't protect you then why do police own them? Ya Basta Oct 2012 #70
That brings to mind a line from one of the Firesign Theatre albums... slackmaster Oct 2012 #73
If having a brain doesn't help people why do they have one? DainBramaged Oct 2012 #74
HA! DU's "Gungeon" is the best thing to happen to the Democratic Left... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #124
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #75
Mr Polize man, this is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Free Republic or the NRA blog DainBramaged Oct 2012 #79
Oh I get it glacierbay Oct 2012 #88
Oh Mr. Polize man don't gives me a tickets DainBramaged Oct 2012 #91
Now that's funny glacierbay Oct 2012 #95
Oh, he would be assured if Officer Blart answered 9-1-1 and answered: "Hold on... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #126
And thus the irony of posts 13 and 42 eludes you... PavePusher Oct 2012 #99
Sorry, but "we say" PRO-2A. And most of DU agrees. Got it? Hold onto it. Firmly. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #125
Who's "we"? DainBramaged Oct 2012 #134
We? DU, bud. Most here support 2A. BTW I've been told this a few times... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #149
Wow that guy actually believes that? Ya Basta Oct 2012 #165
Police are in more danger than other people treestar Oct 2012 #122
So you agree guns DO protect. Thanks Ya Basta Oct 2012 #168
Guns guns guns guns guns guns DainBramaged Oct 2012 #103
You do realize that the orange tip on those firearms glacierbay Oct 2012 #108
He stumbled drunkenly, like a robot, from the porta-John, trailing toilet paper before all.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #129
You're doing nothing but living up to the promise of your screen name. Good luck with that. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #150
Ahhh right out of the right-wing strategy playbook Ya Basta Oct 2012 #171
airsoft , If you're going to do that get it right. former-republican Oct 2012 #172
Toy guns? LOL. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #195
The NRA has to bury the Truth and then Lie fascisthunter Oct 2012 #116
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #131
So many low post defenders of the Second cause of death to the innocents DainBramaged Oct 2012 #137
HuffPo Blog piece on guns not locked in GD? Mon dieu. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #140
As I understand the law, funding requirements prohibit advocacy or promotion of gun control. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #145
It'll stop when the NRA members Ilsa Oct 2012 #173
That is a deranged statement to post. former-republican Oct 2012 #176
And where did I say I was hoping for that? Ilsa Oct 2012 #219
The insinuation/implication was quite clear. PavePusher Oct 2012 #223
You inferred it. I didn't imply my preferences. Ilsa Oct 2012 #225
What about the remaining 50 million gun owners who are not NRA members? hack89 Oct 2012 #196
Ahh the 'gunnium (Gi) attracts gunnium (Gi)' theory.. X_Digger Oct 2012 #180
GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT CDC STORY AND GUNS fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #221
That hidden agenda I always smell. orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #226
I would go beyond what the poster asserts here (right or wrong).... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #227
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