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grantcart

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Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:47 PM Oct 2012

DU Exclusive: Gravis Marketing exposed as a fraud Part I [View all]

Last edited Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Gravis Marketing wants you to believe that this is Doug Kaplan



http://gravismarketing.com/?gclid=COz0t-aY77ICFUjhQgodlDcAew

Meet Doug Kaplan



http://dougkaplan.net/Political_Specialist.html

My interest was peaked when gravismarketing entered a thread with this very lame response on a thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021425136#post3

Didn't seem like a very professional response.

So I started a lengthy background check using public and private sources to track the principles behind Gravis Marketing, all of their public appearances and have come to the conclusion that Gravis Marketing is a complete fraud. Nate Silver and Real Clear Politics have all been punked.

Want to have an impact on the election or do you want to try and make some money out of it then start up a website and start issuing press releases with poll numbers. Find industry averages and publish it on a PR piece. In a poll hungry environment you will be quoted and if you do it regularly you will be put into the regular rotation. And you never have to make a single phone call.

Gravis Marketing promises to be the cheapest in the business. Well there is one way to undercut the others, save on direct expenses like a telemarketing center.

It triggered Daily Kos to ask the question who are these guys and nothing came substantial came up.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/11/1130526/-Weird-Obama-Romney-Poll-I-Need-your-Input

This is like the Sherlock's case of the dog that didn't bark. Check out the three 'officers' of the company and nothing comes up. No academic, professional or occupational hits.

They are

Doug Kaplan
Chad Miller
Bobby Hymel.

They have between 2 to 4 employees.

As a Managing Partner in one of US largest consulting companies between 1994 and 2000 I was thousands of business resumes. This is one of the thinest I have ever seen.

http://dougkaplan.net/Political_Specialist.html

So he promotes himself as a political expert and national pollster.

His public spots? One is with some small failed local Limbaugh wannabe in Florida by the name of Ed Dean. The other is on the Voice of Russia, the Russian Government's English language channel and a political show called: Carmen Russell-Sluchansky's Campaign Connection.

He is quoted there as a national US Pollster and Political analyst.

You can listen to this twerp here:

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012/01/20/64250633.html

You can start to listen to him at the 5 minute mark. His comments have all of the sophistication of a poli sci major having a beer induced bull session with a bunch of his friends trying to sound like they are on the inside. Pay special attention to his rambling inarticulate explanation of why South Carolina is important.

He sounds completely uninformed for a pollster. He seems unaware the South Carolina had special importance before because of the heavy front loading of the Republican schedule with winner take all primaries that made it very difficult to be viable after SC if you didn't score in Iowa or NH. He seems unaware of the substantial rules changes that had a dramatic impact on the Republican Primary schedule and dynamics.

I could match his numbers with even better numbers and, like him, not make a single phone call.

Next there is the structure of their business model. Go to any other polling company and the political polls are just a small part of a larger business, usually in doing polling for marketing of consumer products. Face it the general elections only show up every 4 years so you can't make a lot of money there. In fact most polling companies publish polls as a loss leader so that they can attract commercial customers.

None of this exists at Gravis.

But they do have testimonials, all politically related.

There is "Cindy L" in Oregon and "Chris Young" in Rhode Island, both very satisfied and anonymous.

Mike Hardin is very happy with "Doug and the rest of the folks" at Gravis (pretty impressive for a 2-4 employee company).

Mike is also a political consultant (probably a roommate from college) but if you google Mike Hardin political consultant all you get is the Gravis referral page, and this letter to the editor in Sacramento:



http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/01/4532351/state-officials-pay-cut.html

The Democratic legislative leadership makes me sick. How dare they place themselves above the thousands of state employees who suffered through furloughs for almost two years and face them again. Speaker John A. Perez derides the California Citizens Compensation Commission. Of course, this is a blip in terms of the budget mess. But why not suffer together through this recession? The political scientists quoted throughout the article are no better. What are they thinking?



Now there is some very sophisticated political analysis.

Leaving us with a single actual political candidate who endorses Gravis Marketing.

And he is a 'Democrat', Chris Benjamin.

Except it turns out that Benjamin is also a fraud:



http://thesource.typepad.com/thesource/2010/06/questions-being-raised-about-chris-benjamin-financial-mismanagement.html

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/01/4532351/state-officials-pay-cut.html#storylink=cpy

After it was revealed that Chris Benjamin, a municipal judge and part time political consultant, is having serious personal financial problems, questions are being raised about his ability to manage public funds. Benjamin is most infamous for switching parties to run for the State Senate as a Democrat in 2008.



Either Benjamin was one of these guys that takes money to run as a Democrat so that the Republican can win easily or he ran as a Democrat because he thought he might make money it doesn't really matter.

And that is Gravis Marketing's great success and only identified public client.

So Nate, Huffington Post, Real Clear Politics have all been punked.

And the right wing blogs are running around with all of these wonderful numbers, and some at DU get their chain pulled.

Doug probably hasn't made any money off of it yet but next time around the Republicans will be happy to throw some bucks his way to get some good PR numbers.

Until then Gravis remains 'non partisan' lol.

Now you know Gravis is a fraud.

I know Gravis is a fraud.

The media can pick up this work and get a story out of it.

Tabbi reads DU and he may have got interest in the KB Toys from one of my articles so this would be a fun story for him, how many other pollsters are punking the media.

I have done most of the work already so some journalist can take all of the credit, just give a mention to DU.

Now Doug Kaplan is going to scream like a stuck pig.

Well all a good investigating reporter has to do is ask to see his W-2s for all the people making the calls and all of the phone bills for all of the calls. Check back on every poll he made and ask to see the telephone bills for all of the calls, I know my bill lists every call I made. Or do you think that they all used the same Vonage line, lol.

Gravis Marketing is a fraud.

Doug Kaplan is a fraud.

And until all of their records have been published and checked that's how they should be noted.

Just another notch for DU fettering out right wing bull shit.

(if someone could take the time to send this to real clear politics, nate silver and post it at Daily Kos, I would appreciate it. I have to move today. On to Tucson.)
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You did your homework my friend. Good for you and great post. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #1
Thank you BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #2
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Oct 2012 #3
Do I Get A Shout Out For Smoking Him Out? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #7
Indeed! LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #44
LOL malaise Oct 2012 #45
It was your "clown" label and his idiotic response that got my interest. grantcart Oct 2012 #50
And you really went to town with your research. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #108
it was just going to be a little funny thread in Meta grantcart Oct 2012 #140
Yes, you do sweetie! Cha Oct 2012 #78
You sure do! And I see the clown's account is still active here. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #107
Shout out! tavalon Oct 2012 #133
Indeed. Impressive work. freshwest Oct 2012 #179
Great work. jsr Oct 2012 #4
I can forward this to some people jsmirman Oct 2012 #5
The First Photo Is Stock Art. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #6
An analogy comes to mind Cha Oct 2012 #82
Thanks. And welcome to Arizona. frazee Oct 2012 #8
welcome to DU! renate Oct 2012 #15
Thank you. frazee Oct 2012 #40
Great job, grantcart! janx Oct 2012 #9
I did a Google search on 'Mr. Kaplan' (first photo) and it appears to be a stock image. CurtEastPoint Oct 2012 #10
Using Stock Art On A Web Page Is Pretty Amateurish DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #20
Well done, grantcart. speedoo Oct 2012 #11
too damn funny rufus dog Oct 2012 #12
Investigative journalism. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #13
Fabulous sleuthing! lunatica Oct 2012 #14
well done! renate Oct 2012 #16
One Small Point. He's Allegedly A Robocaller So He Wouldn't Need Callers DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #17
He claims to have a call center for hire too: beac Oct 2012 #26
They employ a special Aerows Oct 2012 #67
still need a call center to listen to the reponses, tabulate, etc grantcart Oct 2012 #71
Maybe he hires prisoners--twelve cents an hour! nt MADem Oct 2012 #183
EPIC reasearching tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #18
Great work! BTW, did you notice their "WHY US" page beac Oct 2012 #19
"Why us?" I already know the Cha Oct 2012 #83
top tears... oldsmoboi Oct 2012 #197
shaking head bigtree Oct 2012 #21
Just wow! DU is awesome! longship Oct 2012 #22
Nice work titaniumsalute Oct 2012 #23
I expected to see a pic of Jeff Gannon there. grasswire Oct 2012 #24
I thought that's who Mike HARDin was alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #57
Excellent research. Grateful for Hope Oct 2012 #25
Oops... n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #27
Nice work, grantcart. I'm wondering now if the dude is posting here on DU. Hmmm. lamp_shade Oct 2012 #28
fantastic flamingdem Oct 2012 #29
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #30
Link to first arrival at DU on Sept. 4th of "Gravismarketing" DURHAM D Oct 2012 #31
I remember being in that thread Aerows Oct 2012 #68
He got on that thread too..defending donations Cha Oct 2012 #85
Good job, figured as much. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #32
Excellent work, which ProSense Oct 2012 #33
Real poll: Post-Debate Colorado Polls Shows 4-Point Obama Lead ProSense Oct 2012 #39
HA! nm Cha Oct 2012 #88
Excellent question, ProSense.. If grantcart can Cha Oct 2012 #87
Great piece, thanks AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #34
What an impressive report, grantcart!! Control-Z Oct 2012 #35
Busted! Bwahahaha!!! PotatoChip Oct 2012 #36
You are a hero sir! berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #37
They donated to the Romney campaign Aerows Oct 2012 #38
Excellent detective work Grantcart Generic Other Oct 2012 #41
Nice Work.... what kills me is he uses the photo you posted on his website (the one of him)... trailmonkee Oct 2012 #42
Is it un-Democratic to want to punch his lights out? superpatriotman Oct 2012 #43
Thank you, grandcart. gademocrat7 Oct 2012 #46
Sorry, grantcart gademocrat7 Oct 2012 #49
I found a blog with Kaplan trying to defend himself in the comments starroute Oct 2012 #47
You are so right about Kaplan's 'semi-literate' responses. PotatoChip Oct 2012 #77
Anonymous posted that there is a money trail / Republican paid operative. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #86
If he was being paid for campaign services starroute Oct 2012 #110
I just did the google street view thingie for DURHAM D Oct 2012 #48
Cross-posted at DKos here berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #51
I see it now has 52 comments. nt DURHAM D Oct 2012 #127
Yeah, it was easy to see when he posted here. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #52
Dude is still a member... trumad Oct 2012 #53
Well, the next time he shows up on a thread Cha Oct 2012 #89
wow....+1,000,000 SoapBox Oct 2012 #54
Fans of Gravis on DU often say "We know it leans GOP, but we need the full data set..." alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #55
From his website in 2010.... pkdu Oct 2012 #56
A "freelance professional" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #58
My Fave line too!.....he left out " I had also graduated from Crayola University" nt pkdu Oct 2012 #64
I know.. I had to read that Cha Oct 2012 #91
"By the age of 14, I had read several books." mrs_p Oct 2012 #100
gravismarketing.com is hiding behind a Domain Privacy Service IDemo Oct 2012 #59
Hmmmm..... Aerows Oct 2012 #74
Hmmmm ..... indeed n/t dmr Oct 2012 #128
Excellent work. Is there a way to send this to Rachel, Al Sharpton, Big Ed or even to the sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #60
stopped for gas. I waive all copyright. any use OK. grantcart Oct 2012 #65
Thanks extremely, grantcart et DU al, for this case study on a vital topic, polling as a business, patrice Oct 2012 #61
Great work! budkin Oct 2012 #62
Wow! Thanks for all You did!! hue Oct 2012 #63
good work blogslut Oct 2012 #66
One of my brother's fraternity brothers LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #69
thanks for ferreting out this loser and..... madrchsod Oct 2012 #70
If you have a journal, please save it there so it will be easy to find eridani Oct 2012 #72
Bravo. You do the DU proud grantcart. great white snark Oct 2012 #73
Well done! Whovian Oct 2012 #75
Doug Kaplan sounds Romneyesque.. no wonder he's Cha Oct 2012 #76
Bravo!!!! K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2012 #79
Wow. Just wow. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2012 #80
Too lazy to go further but 6 out of 6 pages on Gravis were all updated same day (JUNE 3,2012) Progressive dog Oct 2012 #81
keep kicking this nt grasswire Oct 2012 #84
K&R classof56 Oct 2012 #90
There's a trail that seems to lead to I Marketing Co. starroute Oct 2012 #92
Kaplan and his pal Jake Wood were in the junk fax business starroute Oct 2012 #94
Wow. n/t janx Oct 2012 #96
LOL - what a group DURHAM D Oct 2012 #98
I love "Tony Arrigoni" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #101
Complaints about Kaplan at Rifoff Report starroute Oct 2012 #99
Oh -- Kaplan also has his very own PAC starroute Oct 2012 #95
Here are links for that Disney case starroute Oct 2012 #109
Brilliant work muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #118
Kaplan seems to have a lot more ventures starroute Oct 2012 #114
It just get better and better. DURHAM D Oct 2012 #115
Discovery Marketing was also in the fax spam business starroute Oct 2012 #117
And here's an FCC warning about the spam faxes starroute Oct 2012 #121
kick janx Oct 2012 #93
So - Doug Kaplan = dchill Oct 2012 #97
Great job on this...thank you. AikidoSoul Oct 2012 #102
Good luck. I used to live on Craycroft and Broadway in Tucson Panasonic Oct 2012 #103
I'm forwarding this to a friend at the NYT jsmirman Oct 2012 #104
If the Internet had been around in 1968, world history would have been changed for the better! hedgehog Oct 2012 #105
Patting myself on the back for seeing this early alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #106
Wow. Good work. woo me with science Oct 2012 #111
Kicked and Recommended rury Oct 2012 #112
On 2nd viewing I realize he looks like John Lovitz, Jr. Whovian Oct 2012 #113
Impressive ferreting! Plucketeer Oct 2012 #116
Very well done! Denzil_DC Oct 2012 #119
Thank you Grantcart. Kurovski Oct 2012 #120
Great job, another GOTCHA! BrainMann1 Oct 2012 #122
k&r for exposure. Nicely done. n/t Laelth Oct 2012 #123
Sent to Sam Wang - along with some math fiorello Oct 2012 #124
Nice analysis. I get similar frazee Oct 2012 #135
A more appropriate test than my earlier one is probably a simple frazee Oct 2012 #137
Great work, all Americans are indebted to you. Scuba Oct 2012 #125
You never know something until you "know it" reflection Oct 2012 #126
knew gravis was fraud outsideworld Oct 2012 #129
I Am Impressed With The Speed This Clown Made Himself A Player DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #130
K&R ... Trajan Oct 2012 #131
Doug Kaplan can't be doing very well formercia Oct 2012 #132
Okay, someone has to be shallow. Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #134
LOL cyberswede Oct 2012 #175
You too! Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #176
Action required: reflection Oct 2012 #136
On second thought: let them waste their money! fiorello Oct 2012 #143
Well done. Moondog Oct 2012 #138
Very impressive, grantcart, thank you so much Samantha Oct 2012 #139
Silver cited Gravis in an article on Saturday as evidence of the Romney "bump" Denzil_DC Oct 2012 #142
Thank you so much Denzil_DC Samantha Oct 2012 #146
You're welcome, Samantha Denzil_DC Oct 2012 #147
This is getting good. Good work, fiorello. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #160
You outdid yourself, my friend! thevoiceofreason Oct 2012 #141
More repube lies. More repube fraud. More repube cheating. More repube democracy-trashing NBachers Oct 2012 #144
Absolutely outstanding stuff, grantcart! ... Thank you. Bozita Oct 2012 #145
This is real investigative journalism... Science Geek Oct 2012 #148
Nice work...btw Ken Burch Oct 2012 #149
He is a model. He might not even be American. MADem Oct 2012 #184
Great work! Thank you! highplainsdem Oct 2012 #150
Awesome work! Is this being sent to HuffPo? and Silver? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #151
yes, this is awesome. I really hope this has been sent to CNN and everywhere else anneboleyn Oct 2012 #152
The idea that one jerk could depress votes or otherwise impact the election anneboleyn Oct 2012 #153
What about "We Ask America" AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #154
That one is run by the right wing Illinois Manufacturers Association MessiahRp Oct 2012 #155
Thanks! AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #167
I did some research based on your post: Raine1967 Oct 2012 #181
Sweet, get the word out! MessiahRp Oct 2012 #186
I've been trying! Raine1967 Oct 2012 #187
Holy Crap. I knew that asswipe was a liar. Jennicut Oct 2012 #156
This Colorado poll, however, is NOT "total crap"! Moses2SandyKoufax Oct 2012 #157
WEASKAMERICA. A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2012 #158
That is one... Vestigial_Sister Oct 2012 #159
I first noticed Gravis when suddenly Allen was up by 5 or 7 against Kaine underpants Oct 2012 #161
Yep. myrna minx Oct 2012 #162
I LOVE detective work such as yours! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #163
I Was Part Of This Great Unraveling So I Would Like To Add One Caveat DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #164
Agreed - I think it's his competence and methods that are open to question muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #166
Small Correction DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #171
Yes we can until he proves otherwise. grantcart Oct 2012 #174
what a low state "media" has fallen to Maeve Oct 2012 #177
Do they have a "polling" major at Devry? I think not. MADem Oct 2012 #185
dKos has it Coyotl Oct 2012 #165
k & r. TxVietVet Oct 2012 #168
Meet Chris Young - Rhode Island chemp Oct 2012 #169
Bookmarking for GOOD future reference. Sheepshank Oct 2012 #170
K & R Scurrilous Oct 2012 #172
I was trying to do that google image search thingy Historic NY Oct 2012 #173
Kicking in case anyone has missed it. nt Ilsa Oct 2012 #178
Wow, excellent work! Spazito Oct 2012 #180
REC 348--if I could rec it a thousand times I would. MADem Oct 2012 #182
Possible proof dawolf Oct 2012 #188
Nice work! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #189
Well, well, well... I do believe we discussed this a month ago! Raster Oct 2012 #190
Thanks for that, hadn't seen it at the time grantcart Oct 2012 #191
I had my suspicions. Your research and tenacity do us PROUD! Raster Oct 2012 #192
That and not having a TV after a move gave me a lot of time with nothing to do grantcart Oct 2012 #193
Move to Tucson? Raster Oct 2012 #195
Yep grantcart Oct 2012 #198
Love Tucson. I have family there and go back a couple times a year. Raster Oct 2012 #199
And people, don't miss part 2 of this story!!!! Maeve Oct 2012 #194
Kick Lucy Fer Oct 2012 #196
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