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Whiskeytide

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133. Like I said...

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:32 PM

Sep 2012

... I really don't want to get involved in the merits of the argument. I tend to agree with you anyway on that. But anything intended to be a message, no matter how vile and reprehensible, can be classified as "speech". Would it be recognized as protected free speech by OUR courts? Of course not. But it is still speech in the technical sense. So the OP's analogy is sound on that point, even if the conclusion drawn is a little left fieldish. JMHO.

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So , when am I allowed to be offended? [View all] zellie Sep 2012 OP

A lot of people were offended by 9/11 CJCRANE Sep 2012 #1

K&R Odin2005 Sep 2012 #2

How were you wrong to be offended by 9/11, Pearl's beheading, 4 killed Americans, etc? What is this uppityperson Sep 2012 #3

No , it's about freedom of speech. zellie Sep 2012 #7

What? Were 9/11, Pearl's beheading, etc "freedom of speech"? Please clarify and use more words uppityperson Sep 2012 #9

That has to do with whether other people zellie Sep 2012 #14

I think you are saying we must be beware of "them", the muslims will get offended and kill uppityperson Sep 2012 #24

Bet OP sees no reason for anyone if Afghanistan treestar Sep 2012 #41

"Getting" offensive? nt TBF Sep 2012 #51

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh malaise Sep 2012 #105

I don't really want to get involved in this fight... Whiskeytide Sep 2012 #126

Murders, mass or singular, are not "freedom of speech" issues. uppityperson Sep 2012 #130

Like I said... Whiskeytide Sep 2012 #133

So why should "they" get offended by our bombings by planes and drones? It is just "speech". uppityperson Sep 2012 #134

Have you been arrested by any government officials for practicing your First Amendment rights? sarge43 Sep 2012 #37

ding ding ding... You got it. hlthe2b Sep 2012 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #4

+1 proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #36

+1000 regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #91

I dont see them as evil at all Missycim Sep 2012 #124

No my point is.... zellie Sep 2012 #40

What rights? Dropping bombs on them in the name of "national security"? uppityperson Sep 2012 #42

Do you think anyone in Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan should be offended sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #67

You've reduced me to tears; Top ten post EVER on DU! Thank you Sabrina!!! N/T Melinda Sep 2012 #106

+1000 Thank you, sabrina! countryjake Sep 2012 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #114

Really? abelenkpe Sep 2012 #77

How come you are not fighting the AFA? RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #81

oh poor wittle you. no one is asking you to give up your rights, genius. cali Sep 2012 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #92

EXACTLY how I read it, too. eom TransitJohn Sep 2012 #46

word frylock Sep 2012 #59

A question - who are the four killed in your fourth line? Thanks. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2012 #5

Those at the Libyan embassy B2G Sep 2012 #21

Thanks. Welcome to DU! nt Mnemosyne Sep 2012 #118

I get offended whenever I find something I consider offensive. Autumn Sep 2012 #6

^this^ frylock Sep 2012 #64

+1! NT BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #96

You can be offended as often as you like. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #8

There oughta be a smilie for that... countryjake Sep 2012 #109

Who's stopping you? Seriously. Who's stopping you? nolabear Sep 2012 #10

Exactly, There must be some new anti free speech law, I'm not aware about. bahrbearian Sep 2012 #82

I'm offended that George Bush and Dick Cheney are not in prison for murder. Lint Head Sep 2012 #11

Who's trying to take away your right to be offended? lunatica Sep 2012 #12

+1 hedgehog Sep 2012 #76

Be offended all you want. WTF? Lex Sep 2012 #13

If the folks to which you refer were educated by something other than state run media, they lonestarnot Sep 2012 #15

In about 4 minutes but you can only be offended for about 30 seconds justiceischeap Sep 2012 #16

Well, that's all good and fine, BUT... liberalmuse Sep 2012 #17

Best reply so far. Thanks. Scuba Sep 2012 #27

"If you knowingly rile up a crowd, you share in the guilt of the crowds actions?" hughee99 Sep 2012 #33

the sad thing MrDiaz Sep 2012 #48

the muslim rioters assisted the injured and fought back the small attacking force.. frylock Sep 2012 #66

People here understand cause and effect. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #111

So, get busy RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #121

i wasn't MrDiaz Sep 2012 #122

The easy example is yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre - TBF Sep 2012 #55

Well said. Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #97

I am offended when Religious Nuts of any kind try to ignite holy wars with each other. Lex Sep 2012 #18

Maybe if everyone would stop offending and being offended..... Avalux Sep 2012 #19

You are right! This is why RWJ made this video! We should all get along! snooper2 Sep 2012 #26

What made you decide you were wrong to be offended in any of those cases fishwax Sep 2012 #20

Sounds Faux News-ish. Lex Sep 2012 #32

indeed fishwax Sep 2012 #38

Twice on a Tuesday CJCRANE Sep 2012 #22

I'm offended by the idiocy of this post. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #23

where's the damn unrec button when you really need it? cali Sep 2012 #25

This is what I felt like writing upthread, thank you. uppityperson Sep 2012 #30

Stop it. Jennicut Sep 2012 #35

Very well put. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2012 #49

Go ahead, be offended nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #28

And I keep getting told, "Dogwhistles? What dogwhistles?" Scootaloo Sep 2012 #29

Islamic extremists are the scum that have risen to the top in the melting pot of fairy tales. nt Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #31

Being offended is natural. Reacting stupidly... gulliver Sep 2012 #34

Nicely said! Moonwalk Sep 2012 #71

Entirely false treestar Sep 2012 #39

Free speech? According to Ezra Klein: 'Libya attack underscores drone use' proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #43

Why are you asking permission before exercising your Constitutional freedoms? porphyrian Sep 2012 #44

I agree with you...but does that mean.. zellie Sep 2012 #47

Are we allowed to yell "FIRE" even if there isn't one???? Yes. However... Walk away Sep 2012 #65

Some Americans do. Most people just never see them. porphyrian Sep 2012 #69

If we do it with hate and with the intention of hurting and marginalizing sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #115

There was no guesswork involved here. quaker bill Sep 2012 #45

You can be offended anytime you feel like it... ljm2002 Sep 2012 #50

"them"? Care to clarify? nt TBF Sep 2012 #52

Yes... Them that went rioting... zellie Sep 2012 #57

"them that went rioting"? TBF Sep 2012 #60

That is not what they rioted about. It isn't that simple. Seriously, it isn't. uppityperson Sep 2012 #61

Thank you... zellie Sep 2012 #72

All you got out of that post was the crusades? Are you just messing with us? uppityperson Sep 2012 #84

That I agree with. zellie Sep 2012 #87

Thank you for clarifying you are just messing with us. Or did you mean you haven't read/heard why uppityperson Sep 2012 #89

You Should Be Offended When Anybody Violates The Norms Of Human Decency DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #53

This is a rotten OP festering with bigotry Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #54

Thank you - TBF Sep 2012 #62

No, they are bound by the rules. uppityperson Sep 2012 #68

No one limits your offense, there are big issues with how it is reacted to. TheKentuckian Sep 2012 #56

you can be offended once you start developing rational thought frylock Sep 2012 #58

Seems like a black and white view Mz Pip Sep 2012 #63

" the people rioting and killing are crazy" ? zellie Sep 2012 #75

This amendment (text included)? Who is saying you need to? uppityperson Sep 2012 #86

I wasn't implying that you should Mz Pip Sep 2012 #99

Has anyone asked you to? gollygee Sep 2012 #100

It's their "fringe" that is doing this in fredamae Sep 2012 #70

Last I looked everyone was so offended by 9/11 that we got involved in two wars... Moonwalk Sep 2012 #73

No we don't have to give up freedom of speech abelenkpe Sep 2012 #74

The offenders offended over one billion people because of lies, ridicule, hatred and perversion of julian09 Sep 2012 #93

It's not anyone's being offended, but the SELECTIVITY of being "offended" that patrice Sep 2012 #78

I wasn't aware that the 9//11 attacks were an act of free speech. Funny, I always kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #79

You just wrote an entire OP without naming or saying who's stopping you from being offended. JaneyVee Sep 2012 #80

This is a strawman argument, and not a very good one n/t arcane1 Sep 2012 #83

When someone is pissing on your bridge? Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #88

You're allowed to be offended by whatever you want. Who's stopping you? Chorophyll Sep 2012 #90

You can be offended all goddam day. Iggo Sep 2012 #94

Being offended IMO is largely a matter of choice slackmaster Sep 2012 #95

baloney & bs. that's my freedom of speech, it doesn't constitute a denial of yours. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #98

Spam deleted by Hassin Bin Sober (MIR Team) kolayamilya Sep 2012 #101

Complaints 2on2u Sep 2012 #103

Somewhere there is a bridge missing a................................................... nt rbrnmw Sep 2012 #104

you're allowed to be offended any time you want ibegurpard Sep 2012 #107

Who the hell says you can't be "offended"?? Zoeisright Sep 2012 #110

I agree - no sacred cows aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #112

I am offended by your post RobertEarl Sep 2012 #113

You can be offended any time you want. jeff47 Sep 2012 #116

My Religion Gets Insulted Every Day AnnieBW Sep 2012 #117

Do you really want to go down that road? lapislzi Sep 2012 #129

Ridiculous. GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #119

Oh, is this what the 'bigotry' poll is about? renie408 Sep 2012 #120

Come to DU! WinkyDink Sep 2012 #123

No guesses are necessary. merely apply common sense... LanternWaste Sep 2012 #125

What are you trying to say? Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2012 #127

Be offended whenever the fuck you like. lapislzi Sep 2012 #128

I'm curious. Were you offended when we needlessly slaughtered tens of thousands of people in Iraq? Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #131

Hairballs really gross me out. Solly Mack Sep 2012 #132

No Hairballs Is Perfect HangOnKids Sep 2012 #135

Alas. Another poor downtrodden American cries out from Tsiyu Sep 2012 #136

You have every right to be offended by terrorists' actions. Jamastiene Sep 2012 #137

The problem with all that outrage on so many sides is that solves Skidmore Sep 2012 #138