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Moonwalk

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40. Apples and Oranges: a Homophobic Hispanic is not the same as being part of a homophobic faith
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:47 AM
Aug 2012

The question is, which groups make such exclusion a part of their teachings, agenda, values and belief system? Even a part of how they define themselves and who belongs to their group? An African American might not want a woman to have birth control and might fight against it, but African Americans aren't, as a unified group, trying to keep insurance companies from giving women birth control. And no African American would say, "You're not African American!" if a fellow African American said, "I believe in birth control for women."

But the Bishops of the Catholic Church said to a group of nuns that they weren't being truly Catholic (part of the faith, part of the church, part of the group) if they weren't also teaching that being gay is wrong.

Your point is valid, but apples and oranges in regards to most of the groups on the list. Not all, but most.

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I think there are homophobes and misogynists in every category you list. randome Aug 2012 #1
OK so when was the last time ChickFullofHate Aug 2012 #3
When did they pass laws to keep women subserviant? randome Aug 2012 #18
yes heaven05 Aug 2012 #17
These assertions are actually rather horrific. MADem Aug 2012 #27
Apples and Oranges: a Homophobic Hispanic is not the same as being part of a homophobic faith Moonwalk Aug 2012 #40
Actually the only people who can an do do that are Judges. 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #2
Yep judges and law makers. zeemike Aug 2012 #11
The federal government has been doing a lot of that for a long time. Vattel Aug 2012 #4
ugh. another distasteful post from you. cali Aug 2012 #5
So stating a fact is distasteful now? ChickFullofHate Aug 2012 #9
you didn't state a fact, dearie. cali Aug 2012 #10
So according to you it is a lie that American Conservative Christians ChickFullofHate Aug 2012 #13
uh, no. I said nothing of the sort, sweetums. cali Aug 2012 #15
truth heaven05 Aug 2012 #20
by and large this op is an over generalization cali Aug 2012 #23
every heaven05 Aug 2012 #32
Homophobes are not all white, and I am sick of that fucking denialism. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #6
So Blacks cannot be American Christian Conservatives now? ChickFullofHate Aug 2012 #7
Grab a clue, honey. cali Aug 2012 #12
You are missing the point entirely ChickFullofHate Aug 2012 #14
you are making a grotesque generalization cali Aug 2012 #16
YOU are the one who inserted "white" in the qualifiers. . n/t annabanana Aug 2012 #19
No, I am saying you are wrong when you say what you said: Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #26
True. True. True. nc4bo Aug 2012 #8
I have had a long relationship with African American churches. Some are just wonderful and Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #31
Again, true. nc4bo Aug 2012 #36
awww heaven05 Aug 2012 #29
So your claim is that when a black minister delivers a nasty sermon, that's not really his will? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #33
Here is an example d_r Aug 2012 #43
When you paint with a broad brush, don't be surprised if you get spattered. MADem Aug 2012 #21
YEAH heaven05 Aug 2012 #35
two new posters. how interesting. cali Aug 2012 #37
Way to miss the point and join in an enthusiasm for unbridled bigotry. MADem Aug 2012 #41
This automatically made me think of a JoeyT Aug 2012 #22
What it really needs is a Venn diagram to graphically show the overlap RKP5637 Aug 2012 #47
I would be great if things were so simple slackmaster Aug 2012 #24
no shit. It's beginning to get very annoying. cali Aug 2012 #34
Looking at the profiles of the reccers pintobean Aug 2012 #45
i guess the solution to what you see as the problem should be final. loli phabay Aug 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Aug 2012 #28
I'll give you lesbians Ty Templeton Aug 2012 #30
culture heaven05 Aug 2012 #38
oh and now it's the apologist pile of dog shit. cali Aug 2012 #39
Well said! IMO it cuts across many groups! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #49
Always will be the problem also madokie Aug 2012 #42
I somewhat agree with this post, but I also disagree. Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #44
Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #48
You win the thread! Thanks, Jamaal freshwest Aug 2012 #50
right heaven05 Aug 2012 #52
Boxxy says.... aikoaiko Aug 2012 #46
WHITE RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES DISRESPECT THIS COUNTRY, GOPonziconz Aug 2012 #51
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