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I believe that many become atheists as a reaction (whether consciously or not) to

some unpleasant experiences they have had with religionists -- oftentimes
with clergymen of that particular religion. Example: A friend of mine was
attending church one Sunday when he was 18 or 19. The preacher was
saying that those who did not accept Christ would be condemned to hell.
Someone asked, "What about those who have never even heard of Christ?"
The preacher said, it couldn't apply to those who have never heard of
Jesus. Another asked, "What about Gandhi? He knew about Christianity."
The preacher replied that Gandhi was in hell.

Well, my friend was a great admirer of Gandhi. He couldn't believe his ears.
He went up to the preacher after the service and spoke with him about
Gandhi. The preacher insisted that Gandhi was in hell. My friend became
an atheist on the spot, and has remained one ever since.

Jasana, just keep on being the way you are. To me you are one of those
spiritual people who are practicing as their conscience tells them to. And
each one of us is at some level of development. We do change with time
according to our ability as we experience and learn more. There are no rigid
doctrines to follow. We just do what we can. If more people did what you
are doing, the world would have been a far better place than it is now. Well,
it isn't. You seem to be accepting that too, while continuing to be the way
you are, Just keep it up.

There are international institutions that have been involved in debates and discussions

on this topic for many decades.

There are a few cases reported of a born-blind patient who had died on the operating table.
While the medical personnel were making efforts at resuscitation, the non-physical part of
the patient had floated out of his/her body and was watching and listening to all the goings
on. The resuscitations were successful.

Post-op the patients, of course, were still blind. But they reported to the nurses and
surgeons what each one of them had been doing and saying during the resuscitation.
These medical personnel were astounded, but could give no "natural" explanation. How
could these patients have seen when they had never seen? They were born blind, and
still were blind.

To really go deeply into this subject, you'll have to do a lot (and I mean a LOT) of research.
There are many institutions of world-renown involved in the links given below: Just begin with:


I wonder how Nancy Pelosi feels now about her "Impeachment Is Off the Table," when she

had every reason, and duty required her to impeach Bush, Jr. for his crime of having
lied and tricked our nation into an unjustifiable war against Iraq, as well as numerous
other serious crimes. Today, Bush doesn't even dare to set foot in many nations in
Europe. They'd arrest him and send him to The Hague and charge him as a war

These are sociopaths. We are dealing with criminals. There are too many of them
holding high positions, both in government and in private industry. They've been
there far too long. And as long as they hold these positions, our country can't help
but go downhill. We'll become a Third World nation because these sociopaths have
the same mentality as the sociopathic leaders of Third World nations. It's only a
question of time.

We've got to vote them out of power. But how? Having the majority of voters
doesn't help at all. This is exactly where these sociopaths lie, cheat and use dirty
tricks to stay in power!

Why have the Republicans tried to avoid offering an agenda of their own all these years?

Why do you think the Republicans have been "The Party of No" all these years?

Because the main right-wing corporate credo is to cheat, steal, and rob every last
red cent from middle-class Americans - by hook and bycrook. And this includes
stealing from their own Republican middle-classes, which they are only making use of
for their own benefit.

Now, they couldn't very well tell this truth, can they? Hence their lies, which are
for the most part meant to fool their own followers.

The Democratic leadership is wise to the above, and try to devise ways and means
to put a stop to the right-wing crooked business. And the main agenda the
right-wingers can offer is to say "No" to the Democratic agenda.

They have nothing to offer the American people. And if they told the truth about
what they really have in mind, they'd lose most of their own people who are now
supporting them.

If some form of democracy continues to exist in our country long enough, the so-called
present-day "Republicans" will only self-destruct in time. They deserve nothing else
As Abe Lincoln once said, "You can't fool all the people all the time."

I think it's bad enough that they've already been fooling too many people for so long.
What does this say about all those who have been, and are still being, fooled?
It makes me furious sometimes that so many of us are so incapable of seeing what is
in front of our noses. How could anyone be so mindlessly gullible -- and for so long!!!

Are they human beings, or merely robots going about in their programmed motions?!

I say there are too many Al Capones holding high positions in business corporations as
well as in government. Al Capones always see to it that the lion's share of profits will
flow into their own pockets. And to hell with the people. That's why our nation is in
the mess it is. We are being ruled by murderous gangsters.

Obama has said he wanted us to "make him" do what we want. Let's oblige him.

I think the super-rich should not only begin paying the same tax rates as
the middle-class Americans do, they should also be made to pay back all
the taxes that they had escaped paying since the days of G. W. Bush .

Some ten years ago "W" decided to make the rich richer. He did this by
lowering taxes on the wealthy - among other things. It was legal for them
to pay lower taxes, but it was also definitely IMMORAL. The middle-class
had to bear the extra burden. We've all read, for example, of people having
to choose between eating less or doing without medications. How many of
them, especially among the elderly, died as a result? This is not very
different from hiring a professional hit-man to do your killing for you. It
was causing others' deaths for the sake of increased personal profit -- it's
sheer ugly and murderous greed.

Bush's lower tax law expires on Jan. 1, 2013, unless Obama should renew it,
which Obama had already repeatedly emphasized that he would not do --
except for the middle-income and poor groups. This is what the GOP will be
bargaining with him about, very shortly.

Romney admitted during one of the recent presidential debates that he
was paying only 14% taxes on his income (while his secretary was paying
30%). This is not only ridiculous and insane, it is also deliberate and
organized EVIL that has to be stopped -- immediately!!!

I think it's only fair that the well-to-do be made not only to pay the same
tax rate as the middle-classes, they must also be made to pay back the
taxes that they have escaped from paying the past ten years -- and with
interest. This would help to decrease the mountain-loads of national
debt, much of which has been created by them, especially in recent years.

The majority of Americans are for the rich paying more taxes. On this point
Obama does have a mandate. He has said in the past that he wanted the
American people to make him do their will. (I believe I've read that FDR
had said the same thing way back when). Let's oblige him. Let's make sure
that he knows, and very clearly knows, that he does have the mandate from
us to be more forceful during this, his second and final, term.

Does anyone know how effective are the security measures Dems. have taken against Rep. vote fraud

in Wisconsin today? The votes should not be left alone with the Repubs. for
even one second. Not one second -day or night!

Here are examples of dirty-tricks that right-wingers in Ohio and Fla., and organizations like

"True The Vote.org.", are doing right now in tampering with the voting system. The right-
wingers aren't very subtle about what they're doing, either. Could the reason be they think
they can do anything, and the Democrats will just take it? Can anyone think of effective
ways of stopping them?

Are we dealing with human beings, or are we dealing with monsters?
Monsters belong in cages.


Why have we heard nothing about this incredibly important development in Iceland? News black-out?!?

A friend just passed this info on to me about this incredible piece of political development in Iceland, and
I am passing it along to you.

<< ICELAND. No news from Iceland?… why? Why do we hear so much of what happens in Egypt, but no
news about what’s happening in Iceland:

In Iceland, the people have made the government resign, the primary banks have been nationalized, it
was decided to not pay the debt that these created with Great Britain and Holland due to their bad
financial politics, and a public assembly has been created to rewrite the constitution.

And all of this in a peaceful way. A whole revolution against the powers that have created the current
global crisis. This is why there hasn’t been any publicity during the last two years: What would happen if
the rest of the EU citizens took this as an example? What would happen if the US citizens took this as
an example.

This is a summary of the facts:

2008. The main bank of the country is nationalized.
The Krona, the currency of Iceland devaluates and the stock market stops. The country is in

2008. The citizens protest in front of parliament and manage to get new elections that make the
resignation of the prime minister and his whole government.
The country is in bad economic situation.
A law proposes paying back the debt to Great Britain and Holland through the payment of 3,500
million euros, which will be paid by the people of Iceland monthly during the next 15 years, with a 5.5%

2010. The people go out in the streets and demand a referendum. In January 2010 the president
denies the approval and announces a popular meeting.
In March the referendum and the denial of payment is voted in by 93%. Meanwhile the government
has initiated an investigation to bring to justice those responsible for the crisis, and many high level
executives and bankers are arrested. The Interpol dictates an order that make all the implicated parties
leave the country.

In this crisis an assembly is elected to rewrite a new Constitution which can include the lessons learned
from this, and which will substitute the current one (a copy of the Danish Constitution).
25 citizens are chosen, with no political affiliation, out of the 522 candidates. For candidacy all that was
needed was to be an adult and have the support of 30 people. The constitutional assembly starts in
February of 2011 to present the ‘carta magna’ from the recommendations given by the different assemblies
happening throughout the country. It must be approved by the current Parliament and by the one
constituted through the next legislative elections.

So in summary of the Icelandic revolution:
-resignation of the whole government
-nationalization of the bank.
-referendum so that the people can decide over the economic decisions.
-incarcerating the responsible parties
-rewriting of the constitution by its people

Have we been informed of this through the media?
Has any political program in radio or TV commented on this?
No! The Icelandic people have been able to show that there is a way to beat the system and has given
a democracy lesson to the world >>

I wonder if we Americans are capable of doing the same thing the Icelanders have done. For one thing,
I don't believe that they have half of their country totally brain-washed by their right-wing media. Still, we
do have our Occupy Wall Street........ So, this really keeps me wondering.

Psychologist Robert D. Hare, Ph.D. in his book "Without Conscience" poses the

question: "Is Gov. Scott Walker a psychopath?"

"...We are becoming much more educated these days about psychopaths and as was stated above, there are many more of them than many people had realized - and they are running around free, they are living lives as if they were normal people, yet, still causing us all to live lives which are dramatically different than we would be able to live without them causing us the trouble that they do. Another expression or term that has been applied to psychopaths recently is that they are 'anti-human beings'. In some studies on the subject, psychopaths are described as non-human beings, but beings of a different sort, meaning they may look or have the appearance of ordinary human beings, but that they are in fact, another species - one that preys on humans.

There may be as many as five genes which psychopaths have which are different from normal (real) human beings. This could make them as different from us than an entirely different species, as if they are actually like (land) sharks which happen to look like us. And I think that this is the real danger for us when it come to psychopaths, IS that they look like us. We know to avoid sharks and other dangerous creatures, but what if those dangerous creatures look and act just like us? That, is what I feel that we are really dealing with when it comes to psychopaths.

Some of the items that called my attention to Scott Walker as a psychopath is that he has done many things the same way that I have seen psychopaths do things. One thing that they do is to use 'disclaimers'. That is, that they will tell you (to some degree that seems reasonable) what they plan to do. But they are thinking of things not as a normal human being, but as if this were like a chess game where they are always about 5 to 10 moves ahead of everyone else. they know ahead of time, for instance, what they will be forcing their opponents to do and they have already thought out how they are going to exploit the situation at that point. ........"


The Real Reason for America's Degeneracy in the Past 3 Decades: The Incredible Increase

of mentally ill people holding high positions in both government and the
corporate world. Here is a very convincing article:

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