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Recording of JFK telling Sargent Shriver not to let CIA infiltrate the Peace Corps [audio]

@lisapease: Recording of JFK telling Sargent Shriver not to let CIA infiltrate the Peace Corps.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKPOF-TPH-17B-1.aspx

Title: Telephone Recordings: Dictation Belt 17B.1. Keeping CIA out of the Peace Corps (Item 17A.4 Continued)

Date(s) of Materials: 2 April 1963

Physical Description: item 1 on 1 dictation belt (2 minutes, 13 seconds)

Copyright Status: Public Domain

Description: The recording of this conversation begins on Dictation Belt 17A.4. Sound recording of part of a telephone conversation held on April 2, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy and Sargent Shriver, Director of the Peace Corps. They discuss speaking to Richard M. Helms about the suspicion that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is trying to place people in the Peace Corps. They also discuss facilitating the movement of members of the Peace Corps into the Foreign Service. Machine noise follows the conversation.

Transcript included. This sound recording was originally recorded on Dictation Belt 17B, which contains additional sound recording(s) following this one. To hear all of the recordings on the Dictation Belt, see Digital Identifier: JFKPOF-TPH-17B, Title: Telephone recordings: Dictation Belt 17B.

Contributor(s):

Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963
Shriver, Sargent (Robert Sargent), 1915-2011

Series Name:

Presidential Recordings.

Subseries Name:

Telephone Recordings .

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKPOF-TPH-17B-1.aspx

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110820336#post19

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025338852

billmon: Koch CIA is actually headed by hack GOP oppo researcher .. classic "deep state" stuff

Billmon has some great stuff on the Koch CIA...

@billmon1: Koch CIA is actually headed by hack GOP oppo researcher, paid $286k a year. But connection with REAL CIA (PT) is classic "deep state" stuff.

Best & Brightest

Scary to think these clowns were running the Country. As NPR noted several years ago even with JFK's so-called "Best and Brightest" it took real leadership to get through tough times.

BOB GARFIELD: In your review of that film, 13 Days, you made another point about learning from history. It was about the supposition that a president, surrounded by a circle of trusted advisors, can be depended on to make the right decision. And you made a, a connection to the George W. Bush White House. Make it again.

FRED KAPLAN: The point was - I think George W. Bush had just been elected president, and a lot of people were wondering if he would be smart enough to deal with crises. And the common explanation at the time was well, don't worry, he has a lot of really smart people around him. And the point that you can take from the fourth draft of the history of the Cuban missile crisis is that the people around John Kennedy were really smart - I mean these were the people that David Halberstam later called, in a note of irony, "the best and the brightest," and yet John Kennedy realized that they really weren't very smart, after all. And the lesson of that is that you can have good advisors but the crucial thing is that you need a president. It's the president who makes the decisions...

http://www.onthemedia.org/2010/aug/27/missile-crisis-memories/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021414805#post12

Film Festival features Tim Busfield, Melissa Gilbert tribute

Good piece in the Lansing State Journal about Timothy Busfield and Melissa Gilbert...

...Tim Busfield was an East Lansing kid, a baseball player, a fun guy. Melissa Gilbert was Hollywood.

“Her grandfather created ‘The Honeymooners,’” Busfield said. “He created ‘The Dean Martin Show.’ She’s from that world.”

Clearly, these people – who will be featured at the East Lansing Film Festival Wednesday -- had nothing in common ... except things that matter. They learned some of that gradually, after marrying in 2013 and moving to Howell...

Soon, a California kid was visiting Michigan on a night that looked like the inside of a snowglobe. “By the time we got to Milford, she thought she was in ‘It’s a Wonderful Life,’” Busfield said.

That did it, Gilbert said. “I fell in love with the state and the man at the same time.” ...

Both had learned from the best. Landon showed his young actors a sense of fun and focus, Gilbert said. “We were always expected to be very professional.”

And Busfield had worked with writer-producer Aaron Sorkin, director Phil Alden (“Field of Dreams” and “Sneakers”) and the “thirtysomething” producers. “It was like an extensive (American Film Institute) course,” he said.

Most of the “thirtysomething” stars became top TV directors. On five series, Busfield has also been the producer who was in charge of hiring and supervising directors.

This season, he’s directing seven individual episodes. In a late change, one assignment – directing an “Aquarius” episode – will keep him away from his home town on Wednesday, so he’ll do the film-festival event by Skype. Gilbert will be in East Lansing and Busfield will be on the set of a TV show... which is the opposite of how they started...

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/entertainment/events/best-bets/2015/11/09/film-festival-features-tim-busfield-melissa-gilbert-tribute/75298386/

Michael Moore:Our Military Has Not Won a War Since World War II

Davison's own (Michael Moore) apparently forgot about Panama & Grenada



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Melissa Gilbert v Gerry Mandering in Michigan

Nov. 4 2015 03:35 PM
8th District campaign
Bishop vs. Gilbert race rated an eyecatcher in Michigan

By Kyle Melinn

The way Mark Grebner of Practical Political Consultants sees it, Democrats have the same lethal attraction to Michigan's 8th Congressional District as moths do to candles.

The closer they get, the more likely they are to get burned.

Ingham County's congressional district isn't like the one Democrat Debbie Stabenow won in 1997. Republican-led legislatures have redrawn the 8th Congressional District into a 30-yard head start for their nominee, meaning only an appealing candidate running under appealing circumstances have a shot.

Actress Melissa Gilbert may be that right person in the right place. Michigan Democrats have the 8th Congressional District among the top 3 they're watching in Michigan, and it could move up considering how well Gilbert catches in her first bid for public office.

Known for playing Laura Ingalls Wilder on NBC's “Little House on the Prairie” from 1973-1983, the 51-year-old Los Angeles native moved to Livingston County in 2013 with her new husband, East Lansing native and actor Timothy Busfield.

Last year, she was visible in Mark Schauer's gubernatorial campaign, giving the Democrat $1,000, filming a "public service segment" for him and showing up at a Flint campaign stop.

The political activity comes after the Los Angeles-born Gilbert served as president of the 100,000-member Screen Actors Guild from 2001 to 2005, earning her a spot on the national AFL-CIO Executive Council. Her visibility isn't unusual either.

Gilbert and Busfield quickly embraced their roles as Howell's resident celebrities — serving as grand marshals to the 2014 "Fantasy of Lights Parade" and promoting local small business through her book, "My Prairie Cookbook." ...

http://lansingcitypulse.com/article-12336-8th-District-campaign.html

The Falklands War and the Grenada Invasion


I've been thinking recently about the impetus and timing of those wars.

Preconditioning .. palate cleansers? Probably a little bit of both.




Reagan - Thatcher - Pinochet

Governor Snyder: how to get away with murder

Here's a thread from DUer russ1943 ..
US Austerity Politics: One State's Attempt to Destroy Democracy and the Environment.
Something is rotten in the state of Michigan.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/31285-us-austerity-politics-one-state-s-attempt-to-destroy-democracy-and-the-environment

Minnesota seems to be taking a different and more successful direction.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10581467

That piece was written before the deadly level of lead in the Flint water supply was confirmed and finally acknowledged by Snyder ..
Lessons From A Fight To Fix Flint's Water Supply

Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha talks to NPR's Michel Martin about her fight to get politicians to fix the water supply in Flint, Mich., after kids started testing positive for higher levels of lead exposure.

MARTIN: How did you find out that the people of Flint were having problems with their water? What set you off on looking at this?

HANNA-ATTISHA: Well, it all started at a dinner party. So I was having a glass of wine with a high school friend who happens to be a water expert. And this is was at the end of August, and she's like, Mona, I'm hearing all these reports about corrosion in the Flint water and the possibility of lead in the water. And when people pediatricians hear about the possibility of lead exposure, we freak out because lead is a neurotoxin. It has a bazillion consequences. So that's kind of what started me on a crusade to look at the blood lead levels of children.

MARTIN: And what did you find?

HANNA-ATTISHA: Well, we compared the blood lead levels of children before the City of Flint switched their water source to the Flint River to after the switch. And we noticed a significant increase in the percentage of children with elevated blood lead levels.

MARTIN: Now, I understand that it's not always easy to make the link, as a just heard about from Pennsylvania, between elevated lead levels of children and specific environmental factors. And I have to note that state officials initially dismissed your findings.

HANNA-ATTISHA: Yeah, yeah.

MARTIN: Although they later came around. Is it really that hard to link lead levels in the blood to a specific factor like the water?

HANNA-ATTISHA: Yeah, it is difficult. So our research study proved correlation, so we noticed an increase in lead levels. We can't say it's from the water, but nothing else happened in this community. There is no large soil excavation project. Every kid in Flint didn't start becoming a stained glass lead enthusiast. So there was not another source of lead exposure. And nationally, because of great public health efforts, lead levels in children have been going down for the last 30 years because getting the lead out of gasoline, getting the lead out of paint. So when you see an increase - or even if it stays the same - that has to alert you to something going on in the environment.

MARTIN: Yeah, I know that you focused on Flint, but lead levels, as we are finding out, are higher than is optimal in a lot of cities around the U.S., despite these laws that you just told us about - laws that mandate disclosures about potential lead problems in homes. Do you have any sense of why this is still a problem in the United States?

HANNA-ATTISHA: Well, the Childhood Lead Poisoning Prevention Program, which is run by the CDC, has lost quite a bit of funding. Through efforts of the American Academy of Pediatrics and others, it went back up to 15 million, but it's still half of what it used to be. So there's not as much money going into the tracking of these children. I think it's shocking that in 2015 - and also, very ironically, in the middle the Great Lakes - that we have lead contamination in our drinking water supply. So I think a lot of regulations need to be strengthened. Other prevention efforts need to be supported that have been cut significantly.

MARTIN: So this past week, Michigan committed to spending more than $9 million to fix this problem. What it was that money going to do, and will this prevent long-term health problems for the kids who've already been exposed?

HANNA-ATTISHA: The damage is done. Lead is a irreversible neurotoxin, so once you are exposed, you're exposed. It crosses the blood-brain barrier. It impacts cognition and behavior and mental health and lifetime, you know, potential, so the damage is done.
So the other thing - our research entirely underestimates the risk because lead in water disproportionally affects infants on formula. So imagine that mom - that single mom in the middle of the night. Baby wakes up. Baby wants warm formula, so she opens the warm tap water, mixes it with the powder formula and gives it to the baby. And that is what the baby for the six months of life.

And we don't even screen for lead at that age. That baby's lead level could have peaked at three month or six months, at nine months, so this research completely underestimates the risk because it's an entirely different vulnerable population than what we're used to screening. So we're looking - Corboyle (ph) now says we're looking at markers for brain injury. We're going to repeat the study in a year. We're going to be tracking the milestones and the development of these children. It's all - this - it's a lot of long-term follow-up that needs to happen...

http://www.npr.org/2015/10/18/449747061/lessons-from-a-fight-to-fix-flints-water-supply

More here and here.

Lt. Bob Woodward presided over the Chief of Naval Operations' code-room ..

Woodward presided over the CNO's code-room, reading every communication that went in and out, while acting, also, as a briefer and a courier. This, he tells us, is how he met Deep Throat, while cooling his heels outside the Situation Room in the White House. It was 1970 and, according to Woodward, Mark Felt was sitting in the next chair.

The Moorer-Radford affair is not usually considered a part of the Watergate story, though it deserves to be. The Nixon Administration learned of the Pentagon spy-ring in late 1971, but the affair did not become public until almost three years later. By then, the Watergate story was almost played out.

While president, Nixon was determined to keep the affair secret, telling Kissinger aide David Young, "If you love your country, you'll never mention it." But the Pentagon's chief investigator, W. Donald Stewart, was more forthcoming. Asked how seriously the affair should have been taken, Stewart replied with a rhetorical question: "Did you see that film, Seven Days in May? That's what we were dealing with..."

read more: http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/06/08/strange-bedfellows/

The truth is Woodward has always been a tool. A rather spooky one at that.

Bush asks Daschle to limit Sept. 11 probes

With 9/11 front and center in the GOP debates and the bogus benghazi hearings dragging on .. Here's a blast from the past that compares and contrasts the handling of each ..

January 29, 2002 Posted: 9:26 PM EST (0226 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11, congressional and White House sources told CNN.

The request was made at a private meeting with congressional leaders Tuesday morning. Sources said Bush initiated the conversation.

He asked that only the House and Senate intelligence committees look into the potential breakdowns among federal agencies that could have allowed the terrorist attacks to occur, rather than a broader inquiry that some lawmakers have proposed, the sources said

Tuesday's discussion followed a rare call to Daschle from Vice President Dick Cheney last Friday to make the same request.

"The vice president expressed the concern that a review of what happened on September 11 would take resources and personnel away from the effort in the war on terrorism," Daschle told reporters...

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/01/29/inv.terror.probe/index.html

Of course we now know the delaying tactic worked. Later that same year Paul Wellstone died, Democrats lost control of the Senate, and Bush-Cheney never faced any serious investigation into their handling of 9/11.
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