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Member since: 2002
Number of posts: 85,434
Retired teacher who sees much harm to public education from the "reforms" being pushed by corporations. Privatizing education is the wrong way to go. Children can not be treated as products, thought of in terms of profit and loss.
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Florida was slow in getting around to this. I would say late 60s is when it fully was implemented. It was a trying time on both sides of the aisle. I was in a school in an area with both well-established white and black communities. There was tension on both sides. There was anger, distrust, and a lot of pushing back.
Teachers were in a way on the front lines. The black community loved their school, were attached to their teachers, and most were not pleased at the integration being forced on them. Our school and its teachers and students were wary, not knowing what to expect. Some were blatantly against it, most were thinking how to make everyone feel comfortable and accepted.
Never once was there name calling that I heard. We had to all compromise and negotiate with each other on a daily basis. Those teachers were forced from a school they loved and told to come to ours or were assigned elsewhere. The students and parents were thrown into situations they were not sure how to handle.
There was some resentment. One mother who did not want these changes got upset with me soon after orientation day about something. She said I was sitting in my white ivory tower judging folks. I called her into the room and told her more about my so-called ivory tower which was filled with tragedy about that time. We hugged, decided that we would work together and stop judging.
One parent asked me to go with her to visit their old school so she and her kids could say good-by. Another teacher asked to join us. Other parents were there saying their good-byes as well. Eyes were filled with tears because this kind of change was so hard on everyone.
We got through the rough spots somehow, but it was not easy. Most of us noticed that it wasn't long before mutual respect took the place of some of the resentment.
I have not posted for several weeks, and I will probably stop for a while after this post.
When it all boils down to the basics of what has happened the last few weeks.....it turns out that most of us have supported the goals of Black Lives Matter. Many others like I did donated when it started. There is absolutely no doubt of the need for that group and others like it.
What has been hard to get across is that when you determine that I and others are the enemy, when you assume we are white supremacists who believe we are superior....you take away any way to discuss rationally. There is a premise that if we are white we are automatically racist and misusing white privilege. That is not true in most cases.
Once someone puts me on the defensive with an assumption like that, once nothing I say matters....it's hard to feel good about it.
My gripe was never about the right to protest, it's about the manner of the protest, the way it was done. The screaming and refusal to allow both sides to be heard.
This episode in the end is not about Bernie, he can handle himself very well. It has been a clever subterfuge to make it about Bernie's supporters, which of course it is not. It has made many just quit posting rather than take a chance on hurting their candidate. I am one of them.
I don't like being called a white supremacist. It carries so many ugly connotations, and I don't deserve that. I think if you call people names and say insulting things to them, it's hard to have a conversation.
Posted by madfloridian | Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:22 PM (82 replies)
$1.4 Trillion In Student Debt Isn't That Big Of A Deal
The Treasury Department, Federal Reserve and other federal financial regulators are all worried that the rise in student debt risks slowing economic growth. Bankers worry it'll lead to a decline in other types of lending. Some policymakers are concerned it will hurt home sales, cause a decline in new small businesses and result in lower retirement savings.
The words of Barmak Nassirian, director of federal relations and policy analysis at the American Association of State Colleges and Universities:
"It strains credulity to assume that the last 18 months of this administration will accomplish that which the six and a half years prior failed to address or take notice of," Nassirian said. "Most of what they've done has been talk. I seriously doubt that much else will change."
Posted by madfloridian | Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:15 AM (42 replies)
Because in actuality much of this outrage over his messaging is not about Bernie at all. It may have been about Bernie at first at Netroots Nation, but now it has turned into something else.
No other candidate is being scrutinized so closely, no other candidate's every utterance on racial issues is being analyzed word by word. I literally mean word by word.
Not ready to leave DU just yet, so I will not give my interpretation of what it is going on....but it is about far more than Bernie.
He could give a whole speech on how black lives matter, it would not be enough.
To his credit after the Netroots Nation event, he humbled himself as they wished.
He immediately went to work to adjust his message, even though his decades of work already spoke for him.
It doesn't matter what Bernie says, because it's not about Bernie.
He did a brilliant job today against Chuck Todd's idiotic verbal assault loaded with talking points. Yet I have seen posts already analyzing how he could have done it better.
That's how it will be from now on. Because it's not about Bernie. AND it's not about his supporters...so tired of hearing that.
Posted by madfloridian | Sun Jul 26, 2015, 02:50 PM (221 replies)
7 ways Bernie Sanders reminds us of our grumpy grandpa
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is probably best known in Washington for two things. One -- his status as the Senate's only self-identified socialist -- is unique. The other, a bit less so: as even his friends would admit, Bernie Sanders can be kind of a grump -- a charter member of the "get off my lawn" caucus.
I so relate to the small talk thing.
“I’m a grumpy old guy,” Sanders told The New York Times' Nick Corasaniti in May. He was talking about his approach to the Internet. He could have been talking about his entire political career.
Been on message like forever:
And that "grumpy old man" demeanor actually dates back to his earliest days in politics. Here's Boston Globe's Christopher Rowland on Sanders:
I tend to be on the serious side, so I appreciate that part of his personality.
Found the linked interview from skimm.
RIGHT TO CHOOSE. YES OR NO?
Posted by madfloridian | Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:19 AM (38 replies)
Those are the reasons given for the Netroots Nation fiasco.
From Raw Story:
‘We will shut down every single debate’
“He couldn’t take 15 more minutes of the heat,” Cullors said of Sanders in an interview on This Week in Blackness, making reference to the senator ending his appearance as demonstrators at the event walked out en masse.
Posting here in the Bernie forum. Out of the GDP until later, much later.
I guess they will let us know when Bernie and Martin are humble enough.
Interesting article on funding, but doesn't go far enough.
I maybe will be in Education and GD, or maybe not.
Posted by madfloridian | Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:28 PM (191 replies)
(Link should work now..what a confused mess)
Music used with the permission of Neil Young.
Sounds like quite an appearance. And just like he said in
June of this year, Bernie spoke of police brutality and walking while black. Just like he has been doing.
From Dallas Morning News Trailblazer blog:
Bernie Sanders voices concerns about police brutality in Dallas campaign stop
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders sought Sunday during a Dallas visit to calm complaints about his response, at a progressive activists gathering this weekend, to concerns about police brutality.
(Okay, I checked the link to the Dallas Morning News article, and the text has changed. I gather it's only a freebie one time read only. If anyone has paid they can check the full article. I am leaving as is for now. )
This is crazy stuff. Don't know whether to delete it or leave it.
(Someone just posted correct link. Thanks.)
Posted by madfloridian | Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:26 PM (20 replies)
The episode yesterday at Netroots Nation has now to me become not about candidate Bernie Sanders, but about far more than that.
Though I support Bernie in the primary, this issue is much deeper and more important to the 2016 election than it is about one person.
It's about groups that attack the very people who are standing for them the most. It's about trying to make two very fine candidates look bad in a public venue. It's about not allowing discussion, demanding that only certain words are acceptable, and shouting out anyone else speaking.
Black Lives Matter is an important and vital group. Yesterday they publicly embarrassed one of their strongest advocates.
What Bernie has said (so far) on Black Lives Matter
From June of this year.
A little over a month ago Bernie Sanders said this:
The poster also listed some of the solutions Bernie mentioned.
1) We have to recognize Police have a tough Job. We got to Respect them. They have to be well-paid. And they have to be well-trained.
Posted by madfloridian | Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:13 PM (232 replies)
“Black people are dying in this country because we have a criminal justice system which is out of control, a system in which over 50% of young African American kids are unemployed. It is estimated that a black baby born today has a one in four chance of ending up in the criminal justice system.”
Rather than listen the protestors shouted him down. He never got to finish talking about it. About 9 minutes in.
Posted by madfloridian | Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:51 AM (18 replies)
Editing to change the link to Bernie's video. Someone just found the full interview, which is the one I saw live. Thank you, Skwmom.
Keep calling our candidates racist. Keep shouting them down without allowing them to speak. There will be no winners at all then.
The Netroots Nation seems mostly pleased with all of it at their twitter feed.
They should apologize to our candidates.
Posted by madfloridian | Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:31 PM (111 replies)
Bush I started it all, he even had Diane Ravitch as his assistant Secretary of Education. Later in 2010 Ravitch renounced her support for his policies.
George Bush II pushed even harder for "reform" policies. He got the No Child Left Behind policy in effect. However much of what he wanted to accomplish failed because the Democrats opposed them.
When President Obama took office he adopted those Bush policies and was able to get more done because there was no party opposition.
However the "reforms" were carried to extremes, and though Democrats were still accepting of them....the Republicans started opposing them.
Now it appears the Senate and House bills effectively take away the power of Arne Duncan to threaten states that don't do things his way. Now it appears powers revert back to more local and state control.
More from Diane Ravitch:
She speaks of an amendment put forth by the the Democratic Senator from CT and co-sponsored by Senator Warren. It was supported mostly by Democrats, and the amendment failed. It is tiring to see Democrats keeping on supporting things that will harm students, teachers, and parents.
Murphy Amendment Did NOT Pass, Fortunately
Just to demonstrate how strange the politics of education are these days, one of the key amendments to the Senate “Every Child Achieves Act” was called the Murphy amendment. It failed. It would have revived or worsened the punishments of NCLB. It main supporters were Democrats. Mercedes Schneider describes this amendment (and others) in this post. Schneider writes: “Senator Murphy’s (D-CT) amendment 2241 (which Warren co-sponsored) went up for a vote and was rejected 43-54. The 12-page text of Murphy’s SA 2241 reads more like No Child Left Behind (NCLB), with its detailed prescription for reporting on student test results, for “meaningfully differentiating among all public schools” (i.e., grading schools), including publicly identifying the lowest five percent, and, among interventions, potentially firing staff and offering students the option to transfer to other schools and using part of the budget to pay for the transportation.”
She lists those voting for and against.
It is as though Democrats voted to continue the punitive policies of the Bushes, and the Republicans voted against it. So strange.
Ravitch then speaks for the recently formed Network for Public Education:
Senate’s “Every Child Achieves Act” Passes by 81-17
Speaking for the Network for Public Education, I will say that we are pleased to see a decisive rejection of federal micromanagement of curriculum, standards, and assessments, as well as the prohibition of federal imposition of particular modes of evaluating teachers. We oppose annual student testing; no high-performing nation in the world administers annual tests, and there is no good reason for us to do so. We reject the claim that children who are not subjected to annual standardized tests suffer harm or will be neglected. We believe that the standardized tests are shallow and have a disparate impact on children who are Black and Brown, children with disabilities, and children who are English language learners. We believe such tests degrade the quality of education and unfairly stigmatize children as “failures.” We also regret this bill’s financial support for charter schools, which on average do not perform as well as public schools, and in many jurisdictions, perform far worse than public schools. We would have preferred a bill that outlawed the allocation of federal funds to for-profit K-12 schools and that abandoned time-wasting annual testing.
The parties have totally switched sides on the reform and privatization of public education.
I have found myself in agreement on education with some of the most extreme tea party bloggers.
It really makes no sense.
Arne's family has gone back to Chicago already and enrolled his kids in private school there...where he used to be CEO of Chicago Public Schools. I have read he will be staying on in DC until the end of Obama's term, even though the powers he had over the states are apparently no more.
Yes, the politics of education are strange, and to me...sad. A Democratic president will have a legacy of not supporting public education as he should.
Posted by madfloridian | Fri Jul 17, 2015, 06:09 PM (9 replies)