Suggestions for week 4 media

[marym625]

Hi!

We're going into week 4. Looks like we accomplished something with week 1, Rachel Maddow, but not so much with weeks 2 and 3, David Letterman. I don't know if there weren't enough of us or they just didn't care what we want but didn't seem to work

Please give your suggestions for week 4. I am thinking Lawrence O'Donnell. However, maybe daytime talk shows should be considered. I just don't know what they are. Ellen and the View are the only ones I know about

[hootinholler]

1. The Nerdist Podcast

Reaches many thousands of people, many who are disgusted with politics. I think Bernie could convince many of them to register and vote.

[marym625]

2. I'm game

I never heard of it though. I will check into how to contact

If there are not other suggestions that more people want, that's what we'll do

Thank you!

[hootinholler]

3. It's Chris Hardwick's podcast

He's done some great interviews.

[marym625]

4. Thank you!

Appreciate it!

[MannyGoldstein]

5. How about a Bernie podcast?

Each week he could start by addressing a single problem, stating the problem, how this problem was addressed in the past and/or in other coubtries, what he's tried to do to fix it, and what he would do as President to fix it.

Then take a question or two on the topic.

Then a compelling, call-to-arms summary and conclusion.

[marym625]

6. I love it

How do we do it?

[MannyGoldstein]

7. Ideas are easy...

implementation less so.

I guess the first question is whether Bernie would cooperate with an effort? Potentially could work it through Tom Hartmann?

[marym625]

8. That's a good idea

I wonder if we can just call Bernie.

I will try a few things on Monday. I think this is a great idea. If we can get him to do it, we can push the broadcast every week and still have a target media outlet besides

Thanks Manny!

[TM99]

11. Podcasts can also be made available

at several different locations including Twitter, his own website, and on the iTunes store as a free download.

[marym625]

12. I love the idea

I think it's great. I hope we can make it happen!

[merrily]

13. He's already on Hartmann weekly, no? He's also on YouTube.

The info used to be on his website, but someone apparently had the "bright" idea to take that down for a while, leaving only the options to sign up to join the campaign and/or to contribute.

[joshcryer]

15. Are you sure about that?

All these links still work: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6616142

Are you talking about other links?

[merrily]

16. Thanks. Just what I needed for my next post on another thread.

[merrily]

20. BTW, yes those links work, but you can no longer access them from the front page of either

bernie.org or berniesanders.com. See msongs reply 5 on the thread you linked.

[joshcryer]

22. And see my replies there.

Are you looking for negativity?

People are blowing stuff like this way out of proportion and even you think it's a "bright" idea. I think it's a minor oversight and not even going to be relevant in 10 days.

[merrily]

24. Do you mean your May 4 reply on that thread that you were sending them a tweet to "fix" the footer?

Are you looking for negativity?

No, I simply stated a fact ancillary to something I posted to Mannie about youtube, but you sure seem bent on wearing one sentence I posted to Manny to death in order to pretend I'm being negative. Yes, I think making most of the content on your website inaccessible during the first weeks after you announce is not a great idea, but it was one sentence posted to Manny. Why have you been obsessing over it?

[joshcryer]

27. Yes, and I tried something positive.

To fix something people were saying was negative.

My view that it was an oversight (since the other pages have the footer) isn't negative like the "bright" idea that they intentionally deleted it or left it out.

I'm done with the negativity. Have at it.

[merrily]

28. I can't even believe you wasted my time referring me to that reply.

[Cheese Sandwich]

9. It might be nice to do a morning variety show like the Today Show or The View

To start reaching out to people who enjoy morning TV. I saw Calry Fiorina on the Today Show. So they should have Bernie on I think.

And not exactly what you are asking, but sort of related, Bernie is scheduled to take questions on Reddit on Tuesday May 19.


https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=amaverify%40gmail.com

[marym625]

10. Oh that's great!

You should post that all by itself!

My question is about this.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12804323

Monday we start week 4

On a different thread people are suggesting the NYT. But no one has put it here yet.

I like the morning show idea. I will wait until Monday morning to see how many want what.

Thank you!

[joshcryer]

14. To be fair to Sanders he won't kick it off until the 26th.

His first campaign event is not scheduled until May 27th, New England College, Concord, New Hampshire.

Don't let the lack of media get to you! He will have 8 town hall meetings or house parties in Iowa and New Hampshire between May 27 and May 30: http://gui.afsc.org/bernie-sanders

I too had been somewhat annoyed by the lack of media but it wasn't made aware to me that he wasn't kicking it off until the 26th (really the 27th where his main event will be, but you can expect some social media stuff on the 26th).

[merrily]

17. It has nothing to do with Sanders. It's unfairness to Sanders by media.

Bernie has said he is running as a Democrat. All we await on May 26 is his formal rollout. A number of the Republicans, perhaps most notably Jeb Bush, haven't even admitted they are running yet, but get far more coverage. Media is even calling Jeb the closest thing Republicans have to a frontrunner. So, the establishment wants another Clinton Bush Presidential race. Makes sense. It's the only either of them gets to get away from prior baggage, even a little.

[joshcryer]

18. We're waiting on Sanders' campaign events.

The Republicans are doing campaign events without campaigning. When Sanders does a campaign event it will be an official campaign event. Jeb Bush has been doing weekly speeches at various Republican shill events (week before last some evangelicals at CLC, channeled archaic immigration policy, this past week at Liberty University, again channeling evangelicals).

The media may yet still ignore Sanders' campaign events, not appearances on news shows, but events with constituents, potential voters, in the caucus states. And there's no doubt that the media will want to bring about a horse race. I think Sanders has a chance and once it's seen that he has a lot of supporters they will be unable to ignore it.

Feels like poo-pooing Sanders' roll out to me when the thing hasn't actually started yet. It's not about formalities. The big campaign events don't start until then!

[merrily]

19. Sanders has been doing events, too. They've been announced on his facebook site.

[joshcryer]

21. His last event was May 2nd...

And it was a meet and greet: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=832095333512139

He raised millions and you and I both know the media covered that extensively: http://www.google.com/search?q=bernie+sanders+raises

Here's his event page: http://www.facebook.com/berniesanders/events

If Sanders does this and keeps it up the media will be unable to ignore him... this is setting up failure at its finest. *sigh*

[merrily]

23. In the clause "this is setting up failure at its finest" what does the word "this" refer to?

[joshcryer]

25. "unfairness to Sanders by media"

The media will be unable to ignore Sanders' campaign as it builds up.

[merrily]

26. My five words about media, posted here, set up the Sanders campaign for failure?

Seriously? That's your claim?

[joshcryer]

29. You did dedicate an entire thread to it...

...

Done with the negativity. If I see it in future postings I will just point out how it's not my thing (and how it is wrong, as well, the media will not be able to ignore Sanders' campaign).

[merrily]

30. The purpose of that thread, like this one, is to spur action by members of this group to

correct the situation, such as by contacting the NYT, posting on Facebook, etc. Not to mention that it's ludicrous to suggest that my posts in the Bernie Group will doom Bernie's campaign, no matter what they say.

You are the only one, besides bluestateguy, who tried to turn my post seeking activism on behalf of Bernie into a reason to attack me. Moreover, no one else found reasons why it was okay for media not to be covering him. However, at least bluestateguy had the grace to stop after one post.

And now, you want to pretend you're the one taking the high road? LOL, josh, LOL.

[joshcryer]

32. I gave a clear reason in post #14.

I gave a clear reason for people not to be concerned that the "media was not covering him." It was a positive and constructive post. All I got from then forward was personality conflict and insults.

[merrily]

33. And in my reply 17, I clearly explained why your "clear reason" was not dispositive of the issue.

Because you give a reason why you think it's okay he's not getting coverage, no one is supposed to act to get him more coverage?

What insults, josh?

[joshcryer]

34. Let's see...

In post 22 I say:

"Are you looking for negativity?" (Regarding an extremely minor thing on Sanders' site.)

In post 24 you say:

"you sure seem bent on wearing one sentence I posted to Manny to death"

It's not just about you, it's about everyone in that post I linked poo-pooing Sanders' site. There are a dozen people in that thread, including Sanders haters, who are making it out to be an issue. As you did in post [http://www.democraticunderground.com/12806640#post13|13] when you said, "someone apparently had the "bright" idea to take that down for a while." The entire thread and idea behind drips of negativity.

But I'm "bent on wearing one sentence," bent, you know, meaning, "not honest." An insult. I think it's damn negative, merrily. It's negative. Sorry if that makes you feel bad. Be positive!

In post 28 you claimed I "wasted your time." Time waster. You know, meaning, "a person who never succeeds : a person who is not successful, attractive, etc."

Lovely!

In post 30 you said, "at least bluestateguy had the grace to stop after one post." I'm graceless, right? Graceless, meaning, "awkward or clumsy, not kind or polite."

As if it's kind to let negativity flow over Sanders' campaign! BTW, I thought there was absolutely nothing graceful about bluestateguy's hit and run. I wonder if he knows that the Fairness Doctrine can be reimplemented without any legislation by the FCC? And that liberals would support it?

And now, I get this PM from you:

Fair warning.

Mail Message
The purpose of the Bernie Sanders Group is not for you or anyone else to find fault with any poster, including, but not limited to me, or any poster's posting style.

Stick to substance and don't derail threads by carrying over grudges you may have from GD.

I look forward to your more constructive contributions to the group.

sincerely, merrily, qua host of the Bernie Sanders Group.

Let it be shown that you called me "bent," "graceless," and a "time waster."

While I only called out against negativity.

Thanks for the warning. I hope that the other hosts take the exchange into advisement.

[merrily]

35. josh, those were all replies to things you said about me.

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My reply 17 contained nothing personal. Your reply to that, however (your #18) , accused me of pooh poohing the Sanders roll out, when I had done no such thing. I had simply said the lack of a formal rollout did not excuse light media coverage. My reply to your post 18 still said nothing personal to you. In your next post, however, you accused me of ensuring failure of the campaign or some similar wild thing.

My choice seems to be to allow you make one bizarre claim about me after another, without responding to them at all, or to respond and thereby become party with you in derailing a thread whose purpose it was to get media suggestions. That is exactly the kind of choice no one should have to make in a safe haven group.

At this point, I will leave this here.

[joshcryer]

36. Those were statements about the negativity.

Not about you personally.

I stand by the idea that gross negativity is setting us up for failure. And I see nothing insulting about calling for positivity.

[merrily]

31. We could contact the New York Times to request that they give Bernie the coverage

a declared candidate for President deserves.

[marym625]

37. Thank you! Great suggestion

I saw a couple others suggesting the NYT on your post.

[merrily]

38. You're welcome, Mary.

Sorry for the unfortunate subthread.

[marym625]

39. shit happens. no worries. Thanks again!

[daleanime]

40. Seconded, would be a great idea.

[marym625]

41. so far, NYT is the only one with more than one suggestion

I will wait until tonight, early tomorrow, to do the post. But so far NYT wins.

Thanks for your suggestion

[daleanime]

42. Thanks for taking the time....

and your efforts.