Debbie Wasserman Schultz ‘disappointed’ by Alan Grayson email

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Source: Politico

DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said she is “disappointed in the use of that imagery” with regards to a controversial fundraising email sent by Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson that compared the tea party to the Ku Klux Klan.

“Obviously I am disappointed in the use of that imagery. Both sides need to dial back that kind of rhetoric and look to bring more civility into politics,” Wasserman Schultz said in a statement.

“Obviously I am disappointed in the use of that imagery. Both sides need to dial back that kind of rhetoric and look to bring more civility into politics,” Wasserman Schultz said in a statement.

On Tuesday, former Rep. Allen West criticized both President Barack Obama and leading Democrats, including Wasserman Schultz, for their silence on the email and its rhetoric.





Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/debbie-wasserman-schultz-alan-grayson-tea-party-email-98743.html

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Full article.

[Wolf Frankula]

1. Bring more civility into politics.

Debbie, you can't be civil with a mad dog. And let the teabaggers whine about being compared to the Ku Klutz Klown. I say if the sheet fits, wear it.

Wolf

[snappyturtle]

21. +1 for the "....you can't be civil with a mad dog" part. nt

[bjobotts]

48. One dem vs 100 repubs being uncivil?WTF Debbie?

[bjobotts]

51. This "both sides to blame" meme is false used by phonies

[DonCoquixote]

54. This whole states poltical scene

is a bunch of rabid GOP mad Dogs, fed on by the Tea Party.

[warrant46]

70. Debbie needs to smoke a Joint and Chill Out

Wait== Wait=== Holder won't let her

[rhett o rick]

82. The upper class have been getting away with smoking dope forever. Holder only wants

to deny it to the 99%.

Debbie doesnt want to upset her conservative comrades in arms.

[warrant46]

85. True so True

[solarhydrocan]

109. The person in your sig does not fancy legal marijuana either

Sen. Elizabeth Warren Takes Dig at Pro-Legalization Senate Candidate Dan Winslow
by Erik Altieri, NORML Communications Director
March 19, 2013

Addressing the crowd, Senator Warren said, “I advise everyone to pay very close attention to Dan Winslow’s platform. He has a 100 percent ranking from the gun lobby and he’s for the legalization of marijuana. He wants us armed and stoned.”

http://blog.norml.org/2013/03/19/sen-elizabeth-warren-takes-dig-at-pro-legalization-senate-candidate-dan-winslow/

[rhett o rick]

110. I am sorry, I am sure it's me but I didnt get your point. Please elaborate.

And give me a link explaining how Fredrick Douglas doesnt support legalized weed.

[cyclezealot]

124. Well said.

As if being nice , will stop them from NOT being nice.

[yurbud]

131. and she's running campaigns? Dem pols have tried looking the other way from GOP extremism for

decades with disastrous results.

Even if Grayson went too far in this instance, any change from losing tactics is welcome.

[Scuba]

2. I'm not.

[trumad]

3. "Both sides need to dial back that kind of rhetoric"

Yo Debbie.... I will try to say this as polite as I can. Fuck you.

[abq e streeter]

6. I don't always agree with you, but in ths case ,RIGHT ON, Trumad.

[trumad]

13. BOB MARLEY IS AWESOME

Agree?

[abq e streeter]

32. A great musician and a great man.

[trumad]

35. See---you agreed with me twice...

We're on to something.

[abq e streeter]

50. Probably plenty more if not most things

just had noticed a few times here and there where I strongly disagreed with you. I couldn't even begin to guess any specific thing, and again, being here on DU means we agree ,and probably very strongly, on most things.

[trumad]

52. LOL---

Awww good.

[TheMastersNemesis]

15. See What I Mean. Dems Are Too Weak.

They just don't know how to fight back and that is the problem. People do not respect it when you let someone beat on you. I would be more vicious than Grayson myself.

After all they have said about Obama the verbal brass knuckles come out. I am with. Debbie Screw you. NO civility with them they will cause a depression given a chance. Bed bugs are a higher form of life than tea baggers.

[trumad]

17. This

Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything.
Harry S. Truman

[Paladin]

61. Amen. Enough of the Turn The Other Cheek bullshit.

Conservatives depend on liberal wimping-out to prevail, time and time again. Why the hell should we adhere to good conduct rules which the right wing flushed down the toilet, decades ago? Bravo, Rep. Grayson, and encore.

[tblue]

63. They don't even try.

She's useless.

[lsewpershad]

27. +1

[tsuki]

30. +1000

[DonCoquixote]

56. Debbie

I could understand if this was maybe, California, but Florida democrats are known nation and world wide as being the weakest, milquetoast party around. They insult us, they slap us, they send letters to newspaper openl;y discussing how to use 'stand your ground" laws to kill us, and we say "thank you sir, can we have another."

Debbie, get out of my state.

[beerandjesus]

125. Well, I kinda like Ted Deutch too...

...though I have to admit, I only know him from the spelling bee and the GOP Wheel of Misfortune.


Of course, Alan Grayson is amazing.

[tblue]

62. Oh yes, because it's SO EQUAL on BOTH SIDES!

NOT!!!

She's a Bluedog. Barely passable.

[PFunk]

98. My Thoughts exactly.

IMO it's Debby and her DINO bunch that makes folks like Grayson much needed to counter them.

[Baitball Blogger]

4. That's what we need in Florida.

More capitulating Democrats.

[DonCoquixote]

58. we don's capitulate

we buy the guillotine, sharpen it, and put our own head in the basket. For an example, see how thin the margins were for the governor's race, how many votes were in question, and how quick alex sink conceded, which of course, got us Governor Rick Scott, who represent the hard right end of the Tea Party!

[abq e streeter]

5. I'm disappointed that it's the truth. Stop behaving like the KKK, and REAL Democrats

can stop comparing you to them.

[LoisB]

7. Debbie, I'm disappointed in YOU.

[beerandjesus]

8. She can fuck off.

...and take the moral high ground when they start working in 50 states, and not leaving whole sections of the country for the baggers.

[Chakab]

9. Oh for fuck's sake. This is the problem with the party. Enough with the false equivalency.

These people have shown open contempt for the party and the President. They are a bunch of vile bigots and lunatics. Democrats are the only ones bound to these so-called rules of civility.

[shraby]

10. There will be no civility in politics until the Dems quit castigating their own for telling it

like it is.
The republicans never do that, so anything they say stands.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

11. Grow a spine Debbie.

[trumad]

12. Remember this

Controversy arose in March 2008 when she announced that she would be unable to campaign against South Florida Republican representatives Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen because of her good friendship with them.[24] Wasserman Schultz and Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) are both on the LGBT Equality Caucus of which Wasserman Schultz is the Vice Chair.
Wiki

[Heather MC]

14. Allen West needs to STFU he lost BYE!!! I wonder how he feels about doing Rallies in the Shadow of

the Confederate Flag?

[Solly Mack]

16. Snort

[DonCoquixote]

18. GROOWL!

(Disclaimer, the following is a Florida Democrat venting at one of the main reasons why the Florida Democrats suck, which is why Florida tends to suck! Those offended may want to turn away now.)

OK Debbie, let's talk.

I was willing to swallow my pride when they gave you the job that should be Howard Dean's. After all, anytime a Democratic woman is in power, it does make the GOP go ape, which makes them easier prey. I was willing to forget all those times you supported arch GOP Nazis like your "good friends" Mario Diaz-Balart and Illeana Ros=Lethen, two GOP who helped the party take over the state by running liberals out of South Florida. I was willing to forget they way you helped backstab Kendrick Meek by supporting Charlie Crist "I am not a democrat yet" senate run, which of course pandered to many in South Florida still angry that Hillary was not coronated, and wanted to avenge their fury by voting for the white guy. Of course, Marco Rubio and the Tea party are still smoking cigars and thanking you for letting Meek be thrown to the PUMAS. Yes, I was willing to choke all of thos down, the fact that with your willingness to defend the GOP, and stifle anyone that challenged their utter dominace of this state, for the good of the party as a whole.

However, you attacked someone who is not merely one of the few liberal voices in Florida, but also in the nation. I see this pattern too many times, and I saw it when he was getting challenged, where you did not lift one finger to help a DEMOCRAT keep a precious seat in congress. The fact is Debbie, you are the very example of a DINO: democrat in name only. What is sad is that you kiss up to the very people that, when you are up for election, will use every damned trick in the book, and will have you burnt at the stake!

Debbie, my dear, you are a disgrace. I know you are already talking about Hillary in 2016. Let's just say you are one more symbol of the forces the real democrats will use when we primary Hillary, and any other DINO who has abused our capacity for patience and self-sacrfice.

[Plucketeer]

23. Well put!

God forbid Debbie and the namby-pambies get a look at what a REAL Dem - brandishing spit, vinegar and stinging truths - looks like. We wouldn't wanna appear contentious and underhanded like the other team. We like to lose with grace and elan.

[NorthCarolina]

97. Great response.

I couldn't agree more.

[sabrina 1]

107. Excellent response. She is one of the problems with the Dem Party

and to say we are disappointed in her is putting it mildly. I have never seen her stand up for a real Democrat.

Go Alan Grayson! We need hundreds of him in Congress and far, far fewer Debbies who cave every time they get the chance making the job of real Dems like Grayson that much harder.

[Plucketeer]

19. Debbie W-S

is THIS the best the party can do for a spokesperson??? The FIRST thing that comes to mind is that famous cartoon with the donkeys all incredulous at the sight of a spine.

[PeteSelman]

20. Of course she is. It shows real guts and fight.

Something the center right party leadership is completely uninterested in.

[hay rick]

22. Debbie takes the bait.

Allen who? Let's pretend West is some kind of arbiter of morality in politics. Ignoring this clownish publicity hound would have been the better option.

[dembotoz]

24. allen west is offended--THANK GOD

debbie grow a spine

[Francois Jeopardy]

64. Allen West is irrelevant and an afterthought

[IcyPeas]

25. and how many conservatives have come forward

denouncing that Larry Klayman idiot for his statements?

[yuiyoshida]

26. The both sides do it meme

is getting old.

[oswaldactedalone]

28. She should shut the heck up

or support our guys. We don't need a bunch of mamby pamby whiners leading our party. I'm sick of Rethug crap and we need to dish it out as hard and as fast as we can.

[mimi85]

81. I posted that this would piss

some Jewish folks off and I don't blame them. I think Debbie is great, Politico kinda sucks and West def sucks!

[Myrina]

29. Facepalm.

Just ... STFU, Debbie. Please.

[leftyohiolib]

31. she's part of the problem - i remember her on s.miller's show laughing off the republicans vote

rigging as conspiracy theories

[JDPriestly]

33. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is the one out of line here.

Grayson's comments are simply true. And it is time for Democrats to face it. The Republican Party has been overtaken by the vestiges of the Klan.

[Ikonoklast]

34. Schultz is waaaay too palsy with the baggers in her state.

Get with the program, or step off, DLC Debbie.

The party is moving in a new direction, and it just might not be the one you're headed.

[MsPithy]

36. Well, I'm disappointed that the librul media isn't demanding to know

why the confederate flag was waved in front of the White House. Why isn't every republican being asked to denounce this act of sedition?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/10/14/ugly-rebel-yell-in-front-of-the-white-house/

[pa28]

37. Can we please have Howard Dean back?

She reminds me of Terry McAuliffe. Good at being a cipher in the middle and raising funds but totally useless when it comes to engaging Republicans and recognizing we are in a fight.

[dorkzilla]

84. +100,000,000,000,0000

[Francois Jeopardy]

38. Dial back????????????!!!!!!!!!!!???????

Screw you, I say accelerate. Take it beyond the red!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stillcool]

39. wow...

I can't believe how worked up you all get over nothing. Bash & trash over this?

[bullwinkle428]

40. Well, you've been disappointing us for a long time, DLC Debbie.

[The Wizard]

41. Step back Debbie

Telling the truth about bigoted scumbags does not require an apology. Stop kissing the asses of those who would knife you in the back.
If kowtowing to swine is what you have to do to keep your job you're in the wrong line of work. When you back down to bullies they win. Alan Grayson is right. Allen West is wrong.

[Bluenorthwest]

42. Hey Debbie, tell Allen West we remember him even if you don't

“If Joseph Goebbels was around, he’d be very proud of the Democrat party, because they have an incredible propaganda machine.” Allen West
“I must confess, when I see anyone with an Obama 2012 bumper sticker, I recognize them as a threat to the gene pool.” Allen West
And of course Mr West on Debbie herself:
“You have proven repeatedly that you are not a Lady, therefore, shall not be afforded due respect from me!”

[DonCoquixote]

53. ^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^

so true

[Phlem]

43. Doesn't matter Debbie

This Democrat is done with third way DLC'ers so your opinion has no bearing on ANYTHING!

Oh and STFU asshole.

-p

[zeemike]

44. Well I am disappointed with you too Debbie.

And give me a break, after we practically begged the right wingers to tone down the rhetoric they kicked it up a notch, and every time you say shit like that they kick it up again, because they see you as a weakling, and I am beginning to believe they are right.

BRING BACK HOWARD DEAN...

PS...I just sent an email to the DLC and told her so...I think we all should.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

114. Send her this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014627506

[tularetom]

45. It's bad enough she comes out with a statement like this

But when she does it the day after the self loathing Allen West condemns the email, it looks like she really cares what a shithouse rat like West thinks.

In all honesty however did you really expect any better from her?

[haikugal]

46. Sorry Debbie....

we need Graysons voice...We need more voices like Graysons. Corporate dems, DLC types don't speak for me, he does.

[amb123]

47. If I were Alan Grayson

and someone demanded that I apologize for comparing the Tea Party to the KKK, no matter who, my answer to them would be . . .

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KILL ME FIRST!

The Truth must be spoken and not apologized for.

[Francois Jeopardy]

67. Well said!

[idwiyo]

49. Who gives a shit what she is "dissapointed" about! If the hood fits...

[ForgoTheConsequence]

55. She's dropped the ball as chair of the DNC.

I wouldn't expect anything other than this false equivalency bullshit from her. We need people who are willing to fight. No more of this timid nicey nice liberal bullshit. It has NEVER worked. You don't fight right-wing racists by being complacent and having dialog over milk and cookies.

[get the red out]

57. I disagree with her

Liberals have tried to be civil and it does not work with these people. Besides,Rep Grayson was absolutely correct in creating this imagery, the only thing missing from that Teabilly gathering in front of the White House a couple of weeks ago were white sheets, they had the confederate flag!

I am tired of Democrats being scared of addressing what we are actually dealing with.

[2Design]

59. Love Alan Grayson and his speaking truth

Those who twist this to be like Sarah Palin and gun targets or any other crap the tea baggers has thrown is trying to say we are not allow to speak truth because they lie

[DonCoquixote]

60. There is one silver lining to this "No Labels" bs

I would love to see some of this new "center" group suck up some of our driftwood like Debbie.

[stupidicus]

65. her and those like her

can kiss my ass and call it a love story. We need more like him, not less.

Civility is way overrated these days, and has been for a long time now.

The biggest source of incivility is the endless lying/dishonesty and whatnot by those Grayson targeted, and their allies. The turning the cheek thing that a lack of reciprocation/the enabling of silence are, and the worst, the "let's be nice to the _______" BS she offered up here, is merely an invitation to them to slap both cheeks off at the earliest available opportunity. It encourages rather than discourages their abusive rhetoric and behavior.

I was hoping that the infanticidal marxist muslim born in Kenya who's the terrorists best friend and his minions would have learned that lesson by now. The only reason the public doesn't see it as more of a problem is because dems have been their whipping boys for so long, it's been normalized. That's why Grayson and his efforts stick out like a sore thumb, kinda like the way that lamb taking a whip to the moneychangers in the "good book" does.

[Lint Head]

66. Tea Baggers aren't racist? Really?

We don't use horses and buggies for our main transportation and we now have what some modern humans call cameras, computers and the internet.



“I heard people saying things today that I have not heard since March 15, 1960, when I was marching to try to get off the back of the bus.” – House Majority Whip James Clybourn at a Tea Party rally earlier this year.



The KKK is probably embarrassed they didn't think of some of this garbage.

[Brigid]

129. They did think of it.

They're just not wearing the white sheets.

[marble falls]

68. What's so disapointing with the truth. There are a lot of KKKers and wannabe KKKers in...

in the Tea Party.

[heaven05]

69. Oh please, stop it.

they ARE the modern klan that NEVER went away and that have been emboldened by RW hatemongers in CONGRESS and on television and radio.Grayson is right.

[hollowdweller]

71. I thought it was funny as hell.

Wasserman HAS to do what she's doing but I think Grayson is funny as hell.

Also, seriously, when you consider "you lie" and " I can't even stand to look at you" and just the stuff that the GOP says about Obama every day Graysons remark seems tame.

But I love the way he always delivers it with a straight face and totally deadpan while you know inside he's laughing his ass off.

[TheKentuckian]

133. She doesn't HAVE to do a damn thing, she chooses to because that is how she butters her bread

She and those like her are probably even more dangerous to broad prosperity and self determination than the opposition.

[PD Turk]

72. I could give a shit

I could give a shit what "disappoints " her. Alan is telling it like it is. Go Alan !!

[TheCowsCameHome]

73. The klan is probably offended

being compared to the teabaggers.

[melody]

74. She cannot be serious -- these people are threatening to destroy the world economy

They are every bit as bad as the Klan. Alan is just speaking the truth.

[beachbum bob]

75. she is the problem

As well as the others who wish to be non-confrontational democrats. No small wonder Obama's numbers go up when he is tough

[Purveyor]

76. Well, when I hear the name Debbie Wasserman Schultz...I'm "disappointed" too! eom

[appacom]

77. Teaparty and kkK - a rose by any other name is still a rose

Enough of the bullshit . Grayson called it, and now everybody needs to stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

[Pab Sungenis]

78. If the pointy hood fits...

[Rain Mcloud]

79. Recently Ted Cruz R-Ignoramus-Texas gave a speech to Values Voters

wherein he stated that what America needs is 100 more in Congress like Jesse Helms.
I will wait for a minute for that to sink in.....................

Of all the people who should be demanding Cruz walk back that statement,i would think that Allen West would be just one of potentially hundreds of republicans(unashamedly self proclaimed republicans)but Mr.West having the most right to an apology.
Ten years ago Trent Lott came out and sang the praises of another racist dixiecrat,Strom Thurmond on his birthday.
The backlash was so strong not only from the left but also from the right,that Lott had to step down.

I might remind the head of a so called faction of the blue dog democrats that playing nice with the two headed attack dogs is what brought us to this particular juncture in history.
16 Trillion in debt.
Unemployment at 7.5%(unofficially de-rated because of those who have given up hope and are probably homeless).
In the midst of a job killing sequester.
A Congress being controlled by a minority who will not allow anyone to govern.
Two illegal wars.
One Impeachment.
Stolen election.
Voter suppression.
Torture as a means of interrogation.
Wiretapping of every American with a data connection.
De-regulation of every industry including the banking industry.
American Manufacturing jobs shipped overseas.
Retirement funds of American workers pillaged for profit.
Weakening of workers rights(Union Busting and Right to Work)
And the list goes on but i think i have made a point.
This happened while the democratic party was trying to pull its head out of its ass,wondering why people did not like them anymore.
Nobody likes a loser especially one who throws the food on the fire and then wants to go through your pantry to stoke the fire with again.
This is how they won over a majority on schemes that the village idiot would not fall for.
So.....
When will it be time to stop playing nice?
When our grandkids are going to work in factories for 15 hour days and six days a week instead of school?
When we are engaged in a global war to create a corporate empire?
When the smog is so thick you cannot see a hand in front of your face?
When going to vote is illegal?
When State Religion is instituted?

30 Years ago would have been about right to just say no to their Astrological bullshit!
We would not be in the goddamndest fix that we are in today,if Truman had been around.
Get Thee back to Wall Street what spat your incompetent ass out!
Grayson for DNC Chairman!

[Owl]

80. I'm not.

[bowens43]

83. I guess she hasn't met any baggers , Grayson didn't go nearly far enough.

[rhett o rick]

86. I dont know the facts but I bet the DNC didnt give Rep Grayson anymore help getting elected

than they Blue Dogs.

[kath]

87. Screw you, Debbie. And let me say that those of us in the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party

Are WAY damned disappointed with YOU.

[valerief]

88. Well, we're disappointed in DLC dems like you, Debbie. nt

[HooptieWagon]

89. DWS never met a Progressive she didn't hate.

She's a RW DLCer.

[Ruby the Liberal]

90. former Rep. Allen West

former Rep. Allen West
former Rep. Allen West
former Rep. Allen West
former Rep. Allen West

That doesn't get old. More like this, Florida. Please and thank you.

[Octafish]

91. Wake up, Debbie. Wake up!

The remarkable, unfathomable ignorance of Debbie Wasserman Schultz

The Chair of the Democratic National Committee is completely unaware of one of the biggest stories of the Obama years

Glenn Greenwald
theguardian.com, Friday 19 October 2012 20.38 EDT

On 29 May 2012, the New York Times published a remarkable 6,000-word story on its front page about what it termed President Obama's "kill list". It detailed the president's personal role in deciding which individuals will end up being targeted for assassination by the CIA based on Obama's secret, unchecked decree that they are "terrorists" and deserve to die.

Based on interviews with "three dozen of his current and former advisers", the Times' Jo Becker and Scott Shane provided extraordinary detail about Obama's actions, including how he "por[es] over terrorist suspects' biographies on what one official calls the macabre 'baseball cards'" and how he "insist[s] on approving every new name on an expanding 'kill list'". At a weekly White House meeting dubbed "Terror Tuesdays", Obama then decides who will die without a whiff of due process, transparency or oversight. It was this process that resulted in the death of US citizen Anwar Awlaki in Yemen, and then two weeks later, the killing of his 16-year-old American son, Abdulrahman, by drone.

The Times "kill list" story made a huge impact and was widely discussed and condemned by media figures, politicians, analysts, and commentators. Among other outlets, the New York Times itself harshly editorialized against Obama's program in an editorial entitled "Too Much Power For a President", denouncing the revelations as "very troubling" and argued: "No one in that position should be able to unilaterally order the killing of American citizens or foreigners located far from a battlefield - depriving Americans of their due-process rights - without the consent of someone outside his political inner circle."

That Obama has a "kill list" has been known since January, 2010, and has been widely reported and discussed in every major American newspaper since April 2010. A major controversy over chronic White House leaks often featured complaints about this article (New York Times, 5 June 2012: "Senators to Open Inquiry Into 'Kill List' and Iran Security Leaks&quot . The Attorney General, Eric Holder, gave a major speech defending it.

But Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic Congresswoman from Florida and the Chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, does not know about any of this. She has never heard of any of it. She has managed to remain completely ignorant about the fact that President Obama has asserted and exercised the power to secretly place human beings, including US citizens, on his "kill list" and then order the CIA to extinguish their lives.

CONTINUED...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/20/wasserman-schultz-kill-list

[Mnpaul]

92. Wasserman-Schultz doesn't want Grayson to tell the truth

about her Republican friends, the ones she refused to campaign against. That alone should have disqualified her from any leadership position. She is a disaster on the talk shows because she never gives a straight answer. It is always long winded talking points.

[The Wizard]

93. Alan Grayson didn't say

teabaggers were the same as the Klan. He said they were as popular as the Klan. Republicans like to play the victim and demand an apology. The difference between the Klan and the baggers is the Klan is more honest. If they thought they could do it with impunity, they'd be yelling ni66er on the street corners.

[kiranon]

94. Politely and civilly disagree with Debbie WS.

The time for ignoring the Tea Party's similarity to fascism is over. Perhaps Italy's version of fascism may be more accurate but Rep. Grayson is saying what needs to be said.

[Bradical79]

95. His response should be a collage

Of all the unquestionably KKK/racist/confederate imagery use by tea party leadership and followers, with each image and quote sourced. Probably wouldn't be to hard for one of his staffers or someone here to whip up.

[ReRe]

96. Double Standard Debbie

Third Way Debbie.

Well, Debbie, your fellow Democrats are more than a bit disappointed in you for uttering those words. You could have just siad, "You'll have to ask Rep Grayson about that... I can not speak for him." You need to resign honey. You're sweet, I love you, but you're just not suited for this position as the Chairman of the Democratic party. You're more suited to be the Chairman of the "Little Ladies" caucus. On your way out the door, nominate Alan Grayson to take you place. Toodle-doo!

[DonCoquixote]

99. This is the sort of response I wish we would give (NSFW)

[dobleremolque]

100. Hasn't Debbie Wasserman Schultz declined to fund any Dem opponent to

her fellow Floridian and GOP congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen? What's up with that? What DOES that "d" in DNC stand for anyway?

[BuelahWitch]

106. "Dishrag"?

Sometimes they seem as limp as a wet dishrag.

[lostincalifornia]

101. Really? Which party has been calling our President every name in the book for the last 8 years?

Did you NOT learn anything from the government shutdown?

The creeps backed down when we stood up for what was right

[Owl]

102. Debbie, please quietly sulk to your hearts content in private.

[24601]

103. She's probably looking at how it polls. Keeping the solid Democratic vote isn't really in doubt, but

by itself, that won't retake the House of Representatives. Voters from the center of the political spectrum are what is needed for a Democratic majority. Red meat for the party faithful on either side tends to alienate the middle.

[MissMillie]

126. EXACTLY

I'm as progressive as anyone else here on this board. I'm probably in the 95th percentile of "progressiveness"

But while the "blue" people relish how Grayson's comments sound to "blue" ears, they need to also consider how "purple" people might cringe, and at how "red" people will use them as a fund-raising tool.

While taking the high road is always the morally right thing to do, it's often the politically expedient thing to do as well.

[JimboBillyBubbaBob]

104. Oh come on,

aren't they led by the Imperial Wizard Jim Demint and the Grand Dragon Ted Cruz? What's the problem?

[BuelahWitch]

105. Supporting the "both sides do it" meme yet

This woman shouldn't be allowed as Democratic Chair!

[ZomBoy]

108. well she had to say that to get her face time on the tube!

Nothing else goes along with the narrative of the MSM.

[Tigress DEM]

111. Oh please if tje hood fits, wear it. <nt>

[longship]

112. Longship disappointed with Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Wouldn't be the first time.

Hey Debbie! What about the fifty state strategy for 2014????

Didn't think so. I knew you were no Howard Dean.

BTW, Debbie. It helps if Democrats stick together and not air their dirty laundry in public. You have a problem with Grayson? Talk to him, not to the media. If I were him, I'd respond with:

"Hey Debbie! How about a fifty state strategy for 2014?"

Didn't think so.

[summerintx]

113. Think this through some more

I disagree with the majority of comments here. NOT because I am a fan of the DNC chairwoman. I agree that the timing suggests she could be reacting to (gag) Allen West's criticism. I also totally agree we need Howard Dean back.

BUT, the problem with fighting the Rethug's incivility with our own inflammatory rhetoric is that it adds to a very combustible mix in society.

It feeds a disturbing level of rage that evidence shows is connected to the rise in workplace violence. I've noticed the climate created is contagious. Doesn't being on the receiving end of incivility make you stew and rage, at least to some degree?

As incivility spreads, people seem to be less and less able to give one another the benefit of the doubt. I see it spreading into unlikely areas of society removed from the political realm, just like a cancer.

Unbridled incivility is a cause of increasing social unrest and violence. Responding to their incivility with our own is definitely counter productive. That DOES NOT mean being a door mat, or weak. It takes great strength and presence of mind to stand up for our principles firmly but within the bounds of civility. Think about Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement.

It makes independent observers more likely to realize we are right and they are wrong. We win people over when we don't stoop to their ugliness. Conversely, it drives people away when we resort to those tactics.

Do you think Grayson persuades anyone except those who already believe? In my experience in my local area, such behavior is so easy to dislike and then use to tar an issue or candidate of the same party with that it doesn't help our cause. Quite the opposite.

[DonCoquixote]

117. You know, I would love to agree with you

And I remember full well how in the early days of The Obama admin, I got slammed and called every name in the book because I thought, and still think, that obama was trying to establish this civil level of discourse.

The problem is, the Tea Party knows that they do not have to pretend to want civility. They can say things that most countries would reward with jail time or the gallows, be incompetent in their jobs, and still get the Koches of the world shoveling money! As much as we hate it, we know Ted Cruz is going to his district, and will be showered with cheers and gold.

When the person has NO reason, not even fear, to act civil, then you have to fight hard, because the Koches and others have sucessfully made politeness a form of capitulation. It also helps that the centrist dems have so soiled the idea of balance, have so often used this to help their GOP friends beat the left up, that the very idea of civil discourse is questionable. Why should we listen to Debbie or Hillary tell us we need to behave, when we know that they will NOT make the GOP behave at all! It's like the GOP is trying to hang us from a tree, and the Debbies of the world are chiding us for not politely letting them put the noose around our neck!

Sorry, but if we use the idea that the "mythical center" will hate us if we act like Democrats, which sadly, has been the hippie-punching mantra since Bill Clinton, we willlose, because the center does nto respect anything but force, which is why they have yieleded to the GOP so much. Not sayign we need to be trotsyites, but they need to know that, while MLK types will appeal to those moral arcs of the universe, there are a few malcolm X's that will remember the way the nice people were thrown out of the building.

[summerintx]

130. Who said anything about rolling over and playing dead?

I'm not saying to not fight hard. But you can fight hard without getting in the gutter. Passion and fierce determination are absolutely called for. No backing down, and no giving up.

But our use of incivility 1) allows our opponents to justify their behavior; 2) alienates potential allies; 3) does not get us to a better place; and 4) hurts our own core and renders us less effective.

It's a worse world if all of us are resorting to vicious lies, smears, and insults - and it's more dangerous, angrier, more violent.

MLK fought injustice - but with words and satyagraha (moral force), not violence. Harder but better. Had he used violence or even angry rhetoric, would we have come as far as we have - even though we still have a long, long way to go?

Would we admire him? I wouldn't. He's admirable for many reasons, including that he called to our better natures.

[MissMillie]

127. Last paragraph is the best comment in this thread

Do you think Grayson persuades anyone except those who already believe? In my experience in my local area, such behavior is so easy to dislike and then use to tar an issue or candidate of the same party with that it doesn't help our cause. Quite the opposite.

Someone else brought up the political expediency of Grayson's comments, and the two of you are spot on.

[NuttyFluffers]

132. re: last paragraph. the strong voice always gains followers.

that's how those who are prone to follow work. they want to be led. they want to feel safe behind a fighter.

Grayson is the absolutely correct voice to persuade others. it already worked for the batshit insane, as our past history tells us. and it worked in spades during Dean's 50 state strategy, which we idiotically abandoned.

it is sheer madness to assume being strong will hurt us among the vapid and undecided.

the correct answer has been apparent for years. it takes willful blindness to ignore it.

[Wiki Wookie]

115. From Allen West, who throws around racist, anti-Semitic barbs like a clown hurling balloons?!

Allen West; the man who denied being drummed out of the military for allegedly torturing fellow soldiers, allegedly abused his own wife, was laughed out of any relevance after claiming his security clearance was higher than the president's clearance, and how many other instances of mental instability now allegedly wasn't fired after calling a woman a JAP and telling her to shut up? Sure, and Ted Cruz understands the message behind "Green Eggs & Ham" and makes racist barbs at fellow workers? that disgusting and degenerate Allen West?!

http://wp.me/p18r3p-16C

"Far Right Whackjob Allen West Turns Out to Be Antisemitic, Right Wing PJ Media “Shocked!” "

[Nite Owl]

116. Wake up Debbie

being civil gets us nothing. It has never stopped the GOP from vicious lies and bigotry. This is the only way they know because they are such utter failures.

[merrily]

118. DWS is not my favorite.

[blkmusclmachine]

119. DWS, another Blue Dog/DINO/Turd Way/"Centrist" ???

You see, all the DC DEMS need is MORE bi-partisanship with the lunatics running the Tea Party. Then, maybe the Baggers will love the DEMS!!

Yeah, ain't gonna happen....

[Francois Jeopardy]

120. #Grayson4DNCChair

Trend the heading on Twitter to support Congressman Grayson !!! Or lets set a Rec record by rec-ing this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023908755

[Enthusiast]

121. Well piss on ole former Rep. Allen West.

And I am disappointed in Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Again.

[truthisfreedom]

122. What Debbie is really disappointed about is that

Someone figured out how to explain how truly marginalized the 'baggers are.

[sendero]

123. "Both sides need to dial back"..

.... Yes Debbie, but only Democrats actually do.

If the Tea Party doesn't like being compared to the KKK perhaps they should stop acting like the KKK.

[Javaman]

128. Meh, trying to remain above the fray by looking down on people...

yeah that always works.

Debbie needs to answer the clue phone.