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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:59 PM

Petraeus resigns after affair **with biographer** turned up in FBI probe, Fox News confirms

Source: Fox News

CIA Director David Petraeus resigned Friday after admitting to an extramarital affair -- an affair with his biographer that was revealed over the course of an FBI investigation, Fox News has learned.

The FBI had been investigating an unrelated and much broader case before stumbling on the affair. Fox News has learned that during the course of this investigation, the name of journalist and Petraeus biographer Paula Broadwell came up. The FBI followed that lead and in doing so, uncovered his affair with her. The FBI for some time was concerned that perhaps Petraeus was some sort of victim, but there has been no evidence discovered to back up such concerns.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/09/petraeus-resigns-as-cia-director/







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Reply Petraeus resigns after affair **with biographer** turned up in FBI probe, Fox News confirms (Original post)
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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:02 PM

1. 'ALL IN'.... indeed

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:07 PM

6. lol. My thought as well. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:21 PM

17. Surge

That is the second line of the joke

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Response to underpants (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:31 PM

27. and early withdrawal


<chortle>

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Response to underpants (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:57 PM

39. They say he couldn't keep his "drone" in his pants n/t

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:12 PM

12. Ba dum pppsssh

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Response to underpants (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:48 PM

51. More like



So he really DID betray us.


rocktivity

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:27 PM

23. And "the education of David Petraeus..." with that photo next to it.

OMG.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:37 AM

81. winning thread. :D She sure looks ... confident. MY grandma would say she looks no better than she

is.

*SNAP!*

Score one for Edna Anita Paxton. RIP, my darling.

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:29 PM

24. LOL

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:13 PM

40. Book titles of the century:

 

"Touched" by Jerry Sandusky, "All In" by Paula Broadwell.

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:24 PM

66. Cant blame the General ;Paula Broadwell, she is so "Shock and Awe'!!!!!!

But for real I wonder if this will ruin Patreus presidential ambitions, in conflict with "family value" republicans?

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:12 PM

128. No! You got it wrong...

"Is it IN, yet?"

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:03 PM

2. A question

Is that the same as video-grapher?

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Response to jehop61 (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:34 AM

91. Didn't he learn anything from the John Edwards mess?

Personally I am already sick of hearing pundits say he did the honorable thing and confess. The honorable thing would have been to keep it in his pants. duh!!!!

I don't believe people should have to lose their career if they cheat on a spouse. However if you know you have a job that you could lose if you cheat. You deserve to lose it.

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Response to Heather MC (Reply #91)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:17 PM

93. People like this think they are immune.

They never consider the unintended consequences.
I feel that we have a perverted society. A situation like this should not affect anyone outside of the immediate families.
He and she had a lapse of values and they will suffer for the short moments they appreciated one another...

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Response to Heather MC (Reply #91)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:25 PM

122. I know I heard he was one of the R's

for possible 2016 run….screwed that up…and who knows maybe why Cantor turned him in…so many lingering questions here….

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:04 PM

3. My first thought was that it was her

but I didn't post my hunch in case it wasn't her. I saw her on the Daily Show and remembered how much she admired Petraeus.

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:10 PM

8. I saw that episode too. Now it all makes sense.

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:27 PM

45. Just saw her in Ed's earlier report and that was my first thought, too

She's pretty and "went running" with him. I thought, "yeah, and what else?"

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Response to Enrique (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:08 PM

129. ......heh......

One of them said, "...so give this book a pass, not like the general made."

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:05 PM

5. Oh my...

I shouldn't but someone else will...

"the Education of".

Oh boy. Late night TV is gonna have fun with that.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:10 PM

7. So the problem isn't so much the affair....

but the fact that it might have caused him to get a case of loose lips. Presumably the FBI fully investigated Ms. Broadwell to ensure that she did not pose any threat to national security but the CIA director shouldn't be putting them in that position in the first place.

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Response to Blasphemer (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:51 AM

77. It's an exploitable liability.

I don't think that counterintelligence types particularly care about the legality or morality of a subject's behavior, it is whether or not they are doing something that can be used against them. Who knows what this guy would do (or did) to protect his secret; he was in a position to give it all away, and he did not disclose, so he's off the island.

As far as limited hangouts go, this one is certainly weak, but it is one made to stick. The General was acting secretively, the reports made sure to mention that he tripped the sniffers for communicating secretively, and therefore from the limited information we've been given, it is plain to see that whether or not he was exploited, the Director of the CIA certainly put himself in a position where he could be exploited. So his reasons for leaving are (probably quite deliberately) easily explained.

However, since I don't work for anyone and I can freely guess my ignorant ass off, I'll say this: You know who has it coming more than most in the wake of this election? Benjamin Netanyahu.

Maybe, just maybe, the President just stepped on Benjiy's best bug.

(Edit: In the interests of humor, I direct your attention to another post by me below, in which I suggest that the General is the Bush's best boy. They could both be true, they could neither be true; the point is that I don't know and neither will anyone else for a long time.)

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:10 PM

9. Interesting

He's 60.....she's got to be at best 20 years younger. And she's married too.

Daddy issues anyone?

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:14 PM

13. No, not daddy, gold issues...

As in gold digger, how often does she get to travel in that kind of private comfort with people waiting her every order... She likes how he was living.

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Response to Actionman (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:21 PM

44. Cue Kanye...

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Response to Actionman (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:17 PM

58. Au contraire

It's power. Power is one of the greatest aphrodisiacs. Powerful men -- as well as rich and powerful men -- have no trouble attracting the ladies. Greenspan, Kissinger, Onasis, etc.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #58)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:49 AM

76. Was Greenspan married to Andrea Mitchell when he had the affair?

She seemed to be emotional and trying not to cry when she read the letter when the news broke today.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #58)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:30 PM

107. He's also a pretty smart dude from what I've read about him...

He also seems to be in pretty good shape for an old dude.

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:51 PM

36. More likely just proximity issues

on both sides.

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:07 PM

64. Proximity is definitely a catalyst.

But there are lots of things in play...in my experience, at least.

I do wish that my fellow Americans could disabuse themselves of the notion that one of our strongest human instincts is somehow inherently sinful.

There's a joke down here: "In Lubbock, you learn two things-- 1) Sex is wrong, and 2) You should only do it with someone you're married to."

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Response to Doc Holliday (Reply #64)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:17 PM

65. I'm right there with you on the puritanism

If we didn't keep pushing the monogamy standard as the only acceptable normal, problems like this wouldn't happen.

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Response to Doc Holliday (Reply #64)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:55 PM

70. I don't think that "who is diddling whom" is the only thing in question. n/t

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:47 AM

75. I put it as more of a Hero Worshipping thing

Sometimes we marry people who are opposite of us in nature and then are attracted to someone who is very much like us. They have many similarities and seem to be type A people.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/11/09/3655509/petraeus-biographer-broadwell.html

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:11 PM

10. wondering if there might be a baby on the way... who knows


If Edwards, as Presidential candidate, is any indication of potential outcomes.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:12 PM

11. Wow is that standard

air travel accommodations? Wood detail, leather captains chairs all around, I wonder if the bagheads would complain about the cost of travel and amenities on that plane for Petraeus like they complained about the President on Air Force One.

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Response to Actionman (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:16 PM

15. That is standard for a 4 star General running a war/occupation

They don't slum around bus depots with a duffle bag

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:15 PM

14. Petraeus' biographer Paula Broadwell under FBI investigation over access to his email

The biographer for resigning CIA Director David Petraeus is under FBI investigation for improperly trying to access his email and possibly gaining access to classified information, law enforcement officials told NBC News on Friday.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15056607-petraeus-biographer-paula-broadwell-under-fbi-investigation-over-access-to-his-email-law-enforcement-officials-say

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Response to Bosonic (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:30 PM

25. "Improperly trying to access his email"? Looking for little tidbits to publish to gain fame?

If she did get any info I would think she could be in serious trouble. He also.....

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Response to Bosonic (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:32 PM

28. no doubt how they found out about things in the first place


this goes much further than a simple sex story.... I think he let more than his pants down

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:19 PM

16. Paula the Daily Show in Jan of 2012. Better interview now than it was then.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:27 PM

22. Thanks for the link. n/t

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:33 PM

29. thanks for the interview video link

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:24 PM

59. In retrospect, it certainly is!

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:21 PM

18. Just having an affair isn't enough to cause a resignation like this.

There has to be more too it.
If the woman had been interviewing him intimately ... very intimately ... it's possible that he revealed some classified information to her.
The revelation may have had consequences too.

Just speculation but she could have been interviewing important people for future books and inadvertently asked a question that revealed classified info to someone who shouldn't have it.

Could his blabbing have played a part in Bengazi?

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:29 PM

46. I'd say it was more the blabbing of Petraeus to Her than her going off on her own, though...

Why blame her if he was the Blabber wanting to get his fame & more fortune for him out there with that book that she was writing about him?

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:29 PM

68. He was supposed to testify about Benghazi next week. Not now since he resigned.

Just read an article on Yahoo that raised the question about that timing trumping the affair excuse. I guess we'll see as more information comes out.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:41 PM

69. Adultery is against military code in some cases

Since Petraeus was a general, I believe his would be a case in which they would consider a violation. I don't know if there would be legal repercussions for him because I don't know the timeline of the affair, and because he is no longer in the military. But it is probably a big enough deal for him to want to leave the public spotlight.

Here is an article on it.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/adultery.htm

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #69)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:31 AM

86. He's retired.

Did the affair start while he was still on active duty? If so, then in theory he could be pulled back on AD and disciplined. However, I'll win the Miss America contest before that happens.

If they started messing up the sheets after he retired, the UCMJ doesn't apply.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:37 AM

83. Beg to differ.

He is (was) Director of the CIA, caught in an illicit affair. It's a very big deal.

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Response to bitchkitty (Reply #83)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:47 AM

115. What makes this something that affects his job?

I assume the reason someone would quit this kind of important position is if they committed a crime or weren't able to continue to be effective.

It seems to me it's a personal indiscretion and could mess up his home life but I don't see how that relates to his official position.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #115)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:03 PM

125. I repeat, he was Director of the CIA.

For me or for you, it would be a personal indiscretion. We might do anything to keep from being found out, but we don't hold national security within our hands. Do you get the difference?

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Response to bitchkitty (Reply #125)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:33 AM

140. Well, it seems to be getting into possible treason territory now.

So whether or not the affair itself was enough to make him quit, this particular case is growing to be a huge scandal possibly about top secret information being revealed to the public by his mistress.

She gave a speech to some students about the Libyan embassy attack that was on youtube and said the embassy was holding Libyan prisoners and the attack was to free them. She said Petaes knew this. The youtube video was taken down and the CIA denies it completely.

The FBI also raided her house and left with several boxes of material.

This is not about an indiscretion. This is about treason.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:43 PM

103. Wingnut friend just implied it's all an Obama plot

Seriously - she just went on a rant that it all had to do with Benghazi, and it' "payback".

I had no interest in further Fox-induced rants, so I tuned her out and said what I always say when I think someone is talking nonsense, which is "there you go".

After about the third "there you go", she said, "I guess you don't agree" and I said "I'm just glad to hear your power is back on and everything is okay."

I do not want to talk politics with someone whose dad tried to explain to me that Obama's was born in Kenya AND his "real" father was a Black Panther - both.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:23 PM

19. K&R

- Embedding done the old-fashion way.......

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:25 PM

20. Wow. That's "Fox" news all right............

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:27 PM

21. Yeah sorry about that but I saw that when I got home

I had been wondering who his mistress was and , oddly, Fox News actually completed (and didn't subtract from) a story

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Response to underpants (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:38 PM

32. She is a fox, is what I meant.............

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:31 PM

26. Its obvious why he had to resign

 

Pillow talk and such. She also seems to have had access to privy information, which is a breach. There could be some serious consequences to both.

But, damn, look at her! Poor Patraeus, getting on in years, suddenly has this woman rubbing his inner thigh... Pecker before country. He should go to jail.

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Response to railsback (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:53 PM

37. Affair? Nonsense. It was just intense undercover journalism.

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Response to railsback (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:31 PM

47. was she the "Honey Pot?" And, who would have known? Doesn't help her career much, though...

In the end...she goes down with him...in more ways than one in this situation...

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Response to KoKo (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:52 PM

54. Sounds like she already DID

"go down with him!"


rocktivity

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Response to railsback (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:33 PM

108. Really, jail? I think resignation is enough.

Unless there is concrete proof he said something to her that warrants jail time. No qualms with having someone resign because there may be a risk, but I'm not too big on the idea of sending someone to jail just 'cause they may have said something they shouldn't have.

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Response to octothorpe (Reply #108)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:58 PM

113. Its not like the FBI is going to divulge their case to the public.

 

Broadwell, now in a bit of a pickle, could level some serious accusations as to what she was privy to. This goes beyond a simple morality tale of banging outside of your marriage.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:34 PM

30. So I expect that the General will be locked up naked in solitary confinment

 

while the sex and secrets scandal is being investigated.

You know, like Bradley Manning is being treated under similar circumstances.


What?

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Response to RoxyNexus (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:56 PM

55. Nah...Manning wasn't Privileged like the General.

So..Manning get's the dungeon treatment. He's lucky they didn't Water Board him...but, what they did was egregious enough.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:35 PM

31. Wow. Had a post deleted because I suggested Nixon did the same thing with a 21 YO who went on

 

to write a biography. It was called sexist.

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Response to Whovian (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:50 PM

34. yeah

some people are very thin skinned on this sight. It's all in how you word things here.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:48 PM

33. he

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is only human. She is quite nice looking. No one can judge him until they get out their glass house. We have all been, at one time or another, indiscreet. He is still a 4 star general in the army and I respect the work it took to get there. I hope it doesn't destroy his family.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:55 PM

38. Baloney. This guy is he head of the freaking CIA

There is an allegation that their relationship gave her access to classified information.

I don't care about his sexual "morality", but I most certainly will judge him based on whether he abused his office and endangered the country.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:14 PM

42. oh please

uber patriot, I don't think he would be that stupid, but I'm sure with all the moral outrage on the way, all will be known. Judge all you want to, doesn't make you right.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:49 PM

63. Then why is the FBI investigating? n/t

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:21 PM

43. Exactly... this is more than "indiscreet".


And not all of us have been indiscreet at one time or another. But beyond that, BlueStreak is exactly right - this guy was the head of the CIA and damned well should have known better than to let a 'biographer' get anywhere near his email etc. It's not our place to judge the actions of consenting adults, that's between themselves and their spouses, but it becomes a totally different matter when the security of our country comes into play. What a dumbass.



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Response to groundloop (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:33 PM

49. Agree......It's not about a "loose dick" but about CIA gone loose to compromising situation. n/t

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Response to KoKo (Reply #49)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:09 AM

89. ooohhhh!

all of you uber patriots are so right. He couldn't have had a moment of weakness that escalated into an affair. Oh I'm sorry I mentioned weakness in the presence of uber males who NEVER have been weak in any situation. If we have another war we need supermen like you at the front line, although I would want the general as leader. : Please don't bore with false outrage over a man who was indiscreet.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:37 PM

109. If you're in such a position of power, you're always held to a higher standard AND should be.

It's similar to how we expect out police officers to show restraint even if someone is trying to provoke them.

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Response to octothorpe (Reply #109)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:23 AM

120. true

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:51 PM

35. Our nation would be more secure, if it weren't for those pesky little blue pills. nt

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:14 PM

41. Does anyone else find it strange that the FBI wound up investigating the head of the CIA

Granted, according to the story that's not how it started. But still, WOW!!!

And what a fucking dumbass. (in more than one way)

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Response to groundloop (Reply #41)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:51 PM

53. I read that in the story too - the FBI hits the CIA

I can't imagine that the FBI guys aren't loving taking down the head of the CIA

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Response to groundloop (Reply #41)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:24 PM

72. The FBI is in charge

of counter-intelligence and security investigations.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:31 PM

48. He resigned because he was discovered.....without the investigation...this would have

Been under the radar. IMO

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Response to Gin (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:35 PM

50. Power Corrupts...he was at "Top of his Career--Top of the World." The Mighty do Fall from Grace

with enough Money and/or Temptation...some of the weak spirited...think they are too Powerful to be Found Out.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:50 PM

52. nice wood paneling behind them (Off topic)

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:05 PM

56. They make a handsome couple.

I wish them every happiness now that he's got so much free time.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:30 PM

60. I don't think they look like a handsome couple.

They look like an old man and his daughter.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:12 PM

57. I couldn't care less.

If every man who cheated had to resign from his job there wouldn't be too many men fully employed.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #57)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:32 PM

61. General Petraeus wasn't every man.

He was head of the CIA. If the FBI is involved, there's more than a concern about an everyday affair, no?

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Response to janx (Reply #61)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:39 AM

74. They weren't investigating him.

They were investigating the woman with whom he had the affair.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #57)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:33 AM

117. And if every woman who cheated had to resign there wouldn't be too many women fully employed either.

Bear in mind that *both* of the participants in this affair are married to other people, not just the man.

For every straight man that "cheats" there is a straight woman involved also, the sexes are not that far apart in terms of their lack of marital fidelity.



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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #117)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:22 PM

123. True to a point.

But men tend to cheat far more often than women. You would have to think really hard for a woman in an equally prominent position as Petraeus who would risk it all for an affair. Can you imagine an Angela Merkel, Hillary or Pelosi in that predicament? I doubt it. On the other hand, the list of public men who have had their careers destroyed, or almost destroyed, by an affair is very long.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #123)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:07 AM

130. I'm sick of hearing this slander against men.

There is absolutely no evidence that men cheat more than women, because no evidence is possible. Surveys asking people, "do you cheat?" cannot possibly expect honesty from responders, and reports about divorces, etc are about what happens in courts, not bedrooms. This is the one circumstance where the truth may never be known because everyone has a motive to keep the truth hidden.

As for women in power, I could easily say that women are only attracted to men with more power and prestige than themselves, which makes their romantic potential go down as their status goes up: the very opposite of what happens to men.

But I'm not saying that. Because it would be rude. Like repeating the unsubstantiated meme that "men cheat more."

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Response to XtopherXtopher (Reply #130)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:38 PM

136. The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.






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Response to Beacool (Reply #136)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:09 PM

139. lol - fair enough

i know how it looks coming from a stranger, and no one is obliged to believe me, but i've been the victim enough times to have my own thoughts about the issue.

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Response to XtopherXtopher (Reply #130)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:20 PM

138. You're right.

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Response to XtopherXtopher (Reply #130)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:00 AM

145. Those surveys are great for measuring the differences each gender

 

puts on honestly discussing such issues.

I can't find it now but some study asked heterosexual men and women how many sexual partners they'd had and got wildly different answers depending on if it was asked in person, or anonymously over the internet.

Generally speaking the common-knowledge assumption that women will lie and say they have fewer while men lie and say the opposite held up if there was any chance of being personally judged.

/and if you think about it the average numbers of sexual partners for men and women have to be the same among heterosexual couples. Mathematically it's impossible for straight men to sleep around more than straight women. The distribution may be different, but the mean can't be.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #123)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:58 AM

144. There are far more men in power than women

 

so it's a given that more men will be caught doing this than women.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:39 PM

62. The General Was ALL Into Her...

 

errr....

yet something doesn't quite smell right about this... the General is out-- just days prior to his testimony regarding the Benghazi fiasco...how convenient

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:28 PM

67. ...And now The Man has no eyes at the top of the Company.

That's going to make the Bushes very, very upset.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:06 PM

71. Either the Missus or CIA foe internally caught wind of this affair and reported it - made suggestion

That they saw or witnessed the "Other" Woman trying to access Petraeus's email on a laptop and got an investigation going...

Just my take...

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:10 AM

73. I would have to buy new clothes.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:27 AM

78. She wrote a book on Petraeus?

I heard Paula Broadwell wrote a book on general David Petraeus.

The punchline is the setup.

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Response to jimbo92107 (Reply #78)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:29 AM

79. now she has to do a "Tell All" book, too.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:39 AM

80. Google his wife Holly.

 

Then put her pic next to Paula's.

All is clear.

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Response to I love weed (Reply #80)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:17 AM

118. That's incredibly rude.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:18 AM

82. where are the family values folks on this issue? I hear crickets




Looked to be a nice family she had - wonder what was up with the General worship...


No doubt the Righties will forgive and forget, and vote accordingly should he ever enter any race of significance. They don't care HOW they win... just that they win. Greed in all things.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:45 AM

84. I wonder if she visited Bob Woodward's house. nt

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:51 AM

85. she's a west point and harvard grad

And I've heard she's also a veteran. As one package, she would be pretty hard to resist. I understand why he would fall.

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Response to mainer (Reply #85)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:31 AM

87. Agreed, I think its easy to say, "I would never do that".

I'm not saying it was right, but the harsh truth is that most men will never have that much "temptation" to deal with. The guy was spending a lot of time with a younger woman, who is intelligent, attractive, and hanging on his every word. I think a lot of men would fail that "test".

As a result, I'm reluctant to judge him any more harshly than I judged Bill Clinton over Monica. In both cases, they hurt people around them, jeopardized their reputations, and clearly they should have known better.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:55 AM

88. So, the General delivered his payload with

an embedded reporter?

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Response to rateyes (Reply #88)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:12 AM

90. ha ha ha

i like that.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:45 AM

92. I really feel bad for the wife...

She wasn't only his wife, but she was a great supporter of our troops.

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5036438310946345&pid=15.1

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:44 PM

94. What's the real reason?

 

Th head of the CIA does not get caught in an affair when thy can cover up murder and assassinations.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:01 PM

95. Author or Sex

Is it necessary for Paula Broadwell, author, to dress as a sex goddess, when doing an interview about the CIA Director?

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:22 PM

96. What was the larger investigation and why did Broadwell become a

person of interest? The affair, if found to be the source of her acquiring
classified intelligence and using it in someway, will become for Petraeus
a much more complicated situation.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:01 PM

97. I found another video of mrs Broadwell :p

&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #97)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:08 PM

98. 9:45 " a bunch of heavy breathing.."

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #97)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:19 PM

101. Wow, this thing is filled with potential jokes.

Troops feel the need to make their commanders bigger than they are.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:39 PM

99. She's Cra-craa-craaaz

Don't stare into those eyes...run.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:11 PM

100. He didn't make a very good spook!

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:27 PM

102. Both are West Point grads. Does that say

 

something about West Point and the military?

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:54 PM

104. ROFL

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #104)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:10 AM

131. LMFAO

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:59 PM

105. And it was her Bday yesterday when this story broke out

How ironic

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #105)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:22 PM

106. Apparently Mrs Broadwell THREATENED another female acquaintance to Petraeus in an e-mail that

triggered the investigation and lead to her She sounds like a piece of work.A married woman with a boyfriend on the side with two boys wonder how they will look at there mom when they grow up. Wonder who the other woman was that she threatened.

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #106)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:52 PM

110. Yes. And from what i heard she sent that threatning email from Petraeus gmail account nt

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #106)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:55 PM

111. I really feel bad for their families tho. I dont care how many things they had in common

There is no excuse for cheating, period.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:32 PM

112. What he did was wrong but the level of temptation here must have been crazy.

As others above have already pointed out she is also a military woman, she's VERY attractive and the 2 of them were working closely. Being a biography he would have had to have shared personal details with her. Factor in the age difference (older man with attractive younger woman) and what may have been a stale marriage on his end and maybe on her's too (I'm just speculating here) and you have a perfect storm. Given these circumstances I think MOST men would find it very very tempting if such a women made advances towards them. I'm not excusing what he did but I can certainly understand it. I also understand his reason for resigning in this case too though, an affair leaves you open to blackmail. Seducing men in power to get information from them has got to be one of the oldest espionage tactics in the books.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:00 AM

114. Another women with unsurpassed access

I saw this posted on another site - How many women had unsurpassed access to Petraeus??

http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/cgsc/events/robinson.asp linda robinson


Linda Robinson, author and national security issues expert, shared insights from her newest book, "Tell Me How This Ends," which explores the world of Gen. David Petraeus as he searches for a successful resolution to the Iraq War.  Robinson, who has over two decades of experience covering wars and insurgencies, gained unsurpassed access to Petraeus, to classified briefings, and to his intimates while writing the book.  A book signing in the AAFES bookstore immediately followed the event.

View Linda Robinson's OpEd piece in the New York Times,
"The Little Battles We Must Win."
 
 
 

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Response to womanofthehills (Reply #114)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:21 AM

116. Lol. This whole thing raises an interesting hypothetical question for me. Would women make better...

Would women make potentially better leaders in highly sensitive rolls such as this? I guess it's sexist to think that women are any less immune to seduction than men but I can't help but feel that it's true to some degree.

Edit: I guess since it takes 2 to tango, as they say, it's about the same.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:14 AM

119. she's like a nutso Sean Young

I just watched her interview on jon stewart where she showed up in a sexy cocktail dress and my first impression was: this gal is big trouble. Warning bells should have gone off in petraeus's head.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:01 PM

121. I always thought he needed a haircut

He's the typical "cookie cutter" general that the Army ranks are over-stocked with today. I do not include LTG Mike Flynn in that equation. I'm an old, ex-Soldier now, but I would follow that man to hell and back any time.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:38 PM

124. Looks like Broadwell and Ann Coulter can exchange tips on posing for book sleeves.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:54 PM

127. On SNL they said the original title of the book was "Just the Tip."

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:48 AM

132. To be honest

I mean come on, who wouldn't want a piece of that. He is an American male after all.

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Response to boomerbust (Reply #132)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:22 AM

133. True

He's only human.....

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Response to boomerbust (Reply #132)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:44 PM

135. "Wanting" doesn't have to result in going after

and betraying commitments.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:51 AM

134. I am finding this scandal rather boring

He slept with his biographer - so what?

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Response to Politicub (Reply #134)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:49 PM

137. Give it time...

It's still young and foolish. I'd bet it's going to grow up into a great big political/intelligence shitstorm.

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Response to GliderGuider (Reply #137)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:44 AM

141. Well, the woman in Tampa who is linked to Gen. Allen

apparently is in deep financial trouble.

Sometimes people in financial trouble don't particularly care how they get the money to pay off their bills.

If you are in financial trouble, you can't get a security clearance.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:41 AM

142. Think of David's wife

I feel bad for Petraeus' wife, but still for his age, he stayed in shape which is more than one can say for her. Despite the difficulties of her being alone while he was on deployment, the woman let herself go completely. I totally understand how he failed to resist the other woman's advances...

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Response to Franker65 (Reply #142)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:34 AM

146. Ah, so she essentially got what she deserved, right?

What a pathetic thing to say.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:54 AM

143. "All in" . . . she just had to chose that name didn't she?

 

There's no way she could have gone with anything else.

The jokes just write themselves (groan).

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:45 PM

147. Kick this totally Republican scandal

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