Great post at DailyKos about Bernie's NPR interview today.

[madfloridian]

BERNIE - Amazing NPR Interview "what Democracy is about"

Basically the question was "Aren't you just ruining Hillary's chances?"

The BERN responds with the ultimate take down:

"Is your point that people should not contest elections, that we should simply have the establishment bringing forth a candidate? So the implication is that somebody should decide who the lead candidate is, and we'll go to sleep. That's a good idea, that's what democracy is about, right?"

The interviewer seemed obsessed that Bernie wouldn't at first use the phrase "Black Lives Matter".... and then Bernie derided all the phraseology... like a politician using a phrase will change anything.

The poster added some comments from listeners at NPR...since I don't know where to look for them at NPR I will use some he posted at DKos.

"I also love how he TOTALLY schooled David Green several times! At one point, especially, Green was interested only in getting Bernie to diss Hillary Clinton for her "ALL lives matter" statement, but Bernie didn't just dodge the question; he showed Green how stupid, meaningless, and insulting to voters the question was."

Another:

I had a hearty laugh when Bernie scoffed and derided "Phraseology"

More:

Yeah I was dumbfounded by how unprofessional David Green was in this interview. "It sounds like you are not ready to say that phrase (Black lives matter)." Why focus on this irrelevant minutia?

Bernie wanted to talk about the real issues behind this divide and David Green was baiting him to say some inflammatory phrase the media has blown up over.

Adding this comment from the Daily Kos post:

Bernie is schooling interviewers (11+ / 0-)

not to ask him dumb questions. With takedowns like these, they will hesitate to try it.

Neither of our candidates are the least bit racist in views or actions. We do them both harm with such attacks.

I will vote for Bernie in the primary. I will vote for the one who wins the nomination.

[NCTraveler]

1. K&R nt.

[randys1]

2. I dont, for the LIFE of me understand why he wont say or Hillary wont say

"Black LIves Matter"

anybody?

are there that many racists in our party?

ouch

[NCTraveler]

3. Hillary hasn't said it?

Edit: Also pretty sure Sanders has said it. Even if he hasn't, it has nothing to do with pandering to racists.

[randys1]

7. I thought over the past couple days both candidates have used the All lives matter

and not Black

Pretty sure

[NCTraveler]

10. Sorry. Didn't realize your comment was in reference to a couple of days.

I don't think she has said it in a couple of days. Kind of makes things tough on people when only a couple of days is what matters.

[madfloridian]

4. Are you saying both candidates may be racist because of "phraseology" (Bernie's word today)

[Oilwellian]

9. Uh

if you listened to the interview, you would hear he did say black lives matter.

[randys1]

11. I thought I just saw a thread dedicated to how he didnt...

cant trust anything around here

[Oilwellian]

17. He also said...

Hispanic lives matter and White lives matter. The interviewer tried to play gotcha and it backfired. LOL

[nikto]

97. The real question is ...

Do insincere interviewer's lives matter?

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. Why you should ahem

Find the interview and listen to it.

[randys1]

45. Yep, I was being lazy - my bad

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. Don't worry, we are all at times

but I have gotten to the point that I do not take the word of major media either, and read SCOTUS decisions myself, for example. IMHO the housing one today was a tad more important than ACA, though less sexy.

[randys1]

55. Have not read the decision on disparate impact, but it was protected, right?

[nadinbrzezinski]

56. Yeah it was

though for reasons that those who know the politics of San Fran, for example, It will lead to more litigation. They were among those who sent one of the Amicus fearing more lawsuits, I will not be too shocked.

Posted the story a tad ago on my site. Straight news is not wanted here, so will send you the link. It includes the link to the actual decision. I am looking forwards to Robert's writing. Him and I don't see eye to eye politically, but he is a better writer than Kennedy.

[Snotcicles]

14. Because it is rhetorical, his actions and history have already answered. He should ask

those asking that question "when did black lives start to matter to you"?

[Art_from_Ark]

78. Exactly

[madfloridian]

81. So true.

[uponit7771]

100. It's not rhetorical, people aren't making it a movement cause they don't have shit else to do...

... and not everyone or even the avg voter is going to know Bernies records on civil rights.

[jwirr]

18. I think Bernie refused to say it today because the interviewer was trying to get him to condemn

Hillary and by not saying it he refused to attack her. That is his style.

I cannot answer for Hillary however I think suggesting that either candidate is a racist is a real stretch of the imagination.

[kwassa]

94. You didn't hear the interview. David Green is good.

Bernie tried to avoid the idea of racism altogether, treating everything as an economic issue.

David saw that he avoided it, and came back to it. Bernie avoided it again.

David did his job. Bernie has a problem.

[uponit7771]

101. Yes, second time he's done this on NPR...

[hueymahl]

113. "Bernie has a problem"

Clearly you and I listened to different interviews. Or this is a cheap potshot.

In no way did Bernie dodge the question. He disagreed with the premise of the question, and refused to give the soundbite answer the interviewer wanted. Kind of like asking "When did you stop beating your wife?". You don't answer that question, you attack the premise. That is exactly what he did. Oh yeah, and once it got to the point of ridiculousness, he said, "Of course black lives matter" and then gave a classic dismissal of David and his attempt to fetishize "phraseology".

[winter is coming]

129. +1. n/t

[AgingAmerican]

27. He did say it

You obviously didn't hear the interview. He said, "Black lives matter, Asian lives matter, all lives matter" or something to that effect. He refused to play the, "Gotcha," game.

[madfloridian]

122. .....

[SheilaT]

47. Just spouting the catchy phrase du jour doesn't change anything.

Going after a cop culture that thinks it's perfectly okay to shoot to kill at any time would make a difference.

[swilton]

58. You nailed it!

I'm sick of the sound bites!

[daleanime]

66. +1

Would be a good start.

[madfloridian]

86. Agree.

[uponit7771]

102. Giving people the impression that he doesn't want to speak to specific social issues will thuogh

... it'll give me the impression that he's going to be another Kerry... IE lose 2 - 3% of the AA vote because of refusing to connect.

80% of blacks aren't poor, that's the racist notions pushed by out media...

So couching civil rights issues under economic ones aren't going to talk to people who aren't struggling with money but struggling with the cops hating them legally or something of the sort

[Adrahil]

77. I prefer "All lives matter" philosophically....

but it does bother me that that phrase is often used by mealy-mouthed right-wingers. I understand why some prefer it, since it addresses the specific issue of blatant disregard for the lives of black people (and black men specifically).

[MrMickeysMom]

103. Why do you think not repeating "black lives matter" means you're racist?

Isn't it defining an argument when it must come down to saying, "Black lives matter"? I thought he defined the obvious insult against young black men by saying repeatedly this exploding unemployment statistic of over 50%!!!

What that means is that nobody's talking about WHY over 50% of young black men cannot find employment in the United States of America.

Were I given the choice of understanding or, as Green put it, "Please remind us" of this horrid statistic leading to hopelessness and associated with brutality, and being remembered for mimicking "Black lives matter", I think I'd pay more attention to the leader who was telling me WHY black lives matter.

[randys1]

115. Oh for christ sake, where in the HELL did I say Bernie was racist, my point was by NOT

saying it he and Hillary both could be appealing to the MILLIONS of racists in the DEM party



maybe


but he did say it and so did she so i should not have made this thread

[MrMickeysMom]

117. Maybe I misunderstood you when you posted...

I dont, for the LIFE of me understand why he wont say or Hillary wont say

"Black LIves Matter"

anybody?

are there that many racists in our party?

[randys1]

118. I thought it was obvious that the reason he wouldnt say it was to appeal to the

racists in our party...i worded it lazily

lets celebrate Gay marriage, how about that!

[MrMickeysMom]

119. Okay!

[randys1]

120. No shit, right, i am surrounded by rightwingers in my business and this place

is like a morgue after the past two days

[MrMickeysMom]

121. You suppose they're going through stages of acceptance?

They'll eventually get there, but how old will WE be? Ah, well. I used to be surrounded by the same crowd and HATED that environment.

[sabrina 1]

114. I think you missed what happened in that interview. He was being baited to attack Hillary.

SHE got in trouble for not using the phrase with some African Americans. I hope Hillary supporters here who have attempted to smear HIM, someone who has fought all their lives for Civil Rights, will take a lesson. He COULD have used the incident to attack and taken the advantage. But he is far too ethical a man to do so.

He was teaching them that they will not get to bait him to attack Hillary which is what ALL of them have been trying to do.

It had nothing to do with his being 'unwilling' to use the phrase. He was unwilling to bash Hillary with it.

As if these morons cared one bit about the Civil Rights of African Americans.

Great interview, he made fools of them, not that that is hard but he simply won't allow them to avoid talking about issues and go for the sensational headline 'Sanders attacks Clinton on Race issue'.

He's an adult. They are children.

With so much that needs to be addressed THIS is all they had, an attempt to get two politicians to go after each other.

USING the AA community to do so.

[geek tragedy]

5. Bernie's lack of patience for stupid bullshit is one of his better traits nt

[madfloridian]

8. It's time someone got irritated about it. And Bernie did today. And I'm glad.

[paleotn]

40. Yep, and one of the reasons I like the man....

....Washington and our national media are riff with utter and complete bullshit. Bernie is a breath of fresh air.

[Go Vols]

44. +1

[MrMickeysMom]

104. He will not bear fools easily, will he?

I think this wisdom is going to out-shine any other person running because I don't hear anyone but him defining the issues, meanwhile, indicating he won't be toyed with.

[upaloopa]

6. If the a question is insulting to the voters why

do Bernie DUers ask it re: Hillary "all lives matter"

[Oilwellian]

13. Because the term "all lives matter"

was the racists immediate response to Black Lives Matter. Perhaps you should check that hashtag out on Twitter to see what I mean. The pro-life crowd also latched on to it. It's a dog whistle that racists and pro life freaks are using to mock the Black Lives Matter movement.

[madfloridian]

16. So some don't think all lives matter?

[Oilwellian]

20. I think that's a given

It was a way to demean and lessen the impact of the Black Lives Matter movement that was born in Ferguson. I think the whole point of that movement is to address the fact that our judicial system doesn't seem to know that black lives matter as well.

On edit: Huffington Post did a good piece on it.

Why We Need to Stop Replying #AllLivesMatter

There's this microaggression happening online, offline and all around that really needs to stop. Can we call for a week-long moratorium on decrying "All lives matter"?

This is a request specifically for my white brothers and sisters, especially those in the church.

I, of course, as a white heterosexual married middle-class highly educated American male, believe that all lives matter. It's something I've been fighting for my entire adult life. Whether it is the mother infected with HIV by her wayward husband, whether it is the undocumented immigrant father who may be separated from his American-born children, whether it is the NRA card-carrying white uncle who does an honest job and is a good neighbor back in the Midwest, whether it is the homeless thirty-something woman coming off a bad meth addiction, but needing shelter during a difficult winter, of course, by all means, every life matters.

Your life matters. My life matters. All lives matter.

This is a non-negotiable. This is true. This is what it means to be made in the image of God, as we're told in the Book of Genesis -- everyone, whether you're white, black, brown, male, female, straight, gay, bisexual, transgender, Republican, Democrat, rich, poor, nice, kind of a jerk, young, old, middle-aged -- we all matter.

But it's important that we stand with the ever-growing chorus and declare, yes, black lives matter. With the heartbreaking, soul-wrenching shooting of nine members of the Emanuel AME church in Charleston, with the death of Michael Brown, with the death of Eric Garner or the dark night when Trayvon Martin was shot down in Florida, a chorus of voices has risen to declare with one voice and hashtag that #BlackLivesMatter.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-nicholas-phillips/why-we-need-to-stop-replying-alllivesmatter_b_7637804.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

[madfloridian]

21. The interviewer tried to get Bernie to attack Hillary's "all lives matter". He wouldn't.

This whole thing has been turned topsy turvy.

[Oilwellian]

38. Yeah, the black community was not happy about what Hillary did

particularly right after the Charleston shootings, and she said it in a black church outside of Ferguson where the phrase "Black Lives Matter" was born. Many in attendance felt it was a slap in the face. Right now, the hashtag #AllLivesMatter is not very popular with the #BlackLivesMatter activists. It was a huge blunder on Hillary's part to even say it and indicates her campaign is woefully out of touch with the social media sites like Twitter.

Bernie doesn't have to attack her. Hillary has always done a fine job of stepping in it, all on her own.

[kenfrequed]

52. In a way...

Bernie actually might have managed to undo the sting of that possible slight by the Hillary campaign.

But he definitely proved that he wasn't going to try to pull bullshit, sideswiping, snippy attacks. Bernie is about the issues and I think he wants the campaign for the democratic nomination to be about the issues. We should respect that.

[Rex]

23. It was a stupid move by the HRC team, Glenn Beck was there a few days earlier shouting All Lives Mat

ter. IF the HRC team is that dense, we are in a lot of trouble.

[A Simple Game]

46. I agree with all you and the author say but one thing does bother me with "Black Lives Matter."

Wasn't and isn't a big part of the problem with discrimination and segregation the fact that a group or class of people are treated differently, not necessarily but usually worse, by others? Discrimination can take many different forms from simply ignoring a person to mistreatment to slavery and even genocide.

And isn't separating Blacks by saying "Black Lives Matter" a form of segregation or discrimination? So tell me just what does it mean, that Black Lives Matter More? Less? Or just somehow differently?

Doesn't "All Lives Matter" place everyone on an equal priority or level, neither higher or lower? Isn't the goal of ending discrimination that all have equal standing in a society? I'm sorry that the wrong people started the meme but it seems much more fitting to me.

The author also bothers me when he says this:

I, of course, as a white heterosexual married middle-class highly educated American male, believe that all lives matter.

So If he, and he makes sure we know he is a he, believes all lives matter what was the importance of such a detailed description of himself? Is he saying his opinion counts more because he is a male, married, middle-class, American, or perhaps because he is highly educated? Perhaps this author believes all lives matter but maybe some opinions matter more than others. He states that he believes "All Lives Matter" in an article with the title of:

Why We Need to Stop Replying #AllLivesMatter.

Why would someone argue against his own beliefs? This author pats himself on the back too much and then argues against his own statement for me to be comfortable with him.

[bettyellen]

82. Because in America, POC are much more often treated by society as if they're dispensable- without

Any worth? Can't believe anyone would call this segregation- wow! Are they supposed to pretend their problems are exactly as everyone else's in this country.

[A Simple Game]

85. No that would be discrimination, and no we aren't supposed to pretend

their problems are exactly as everyone else's in this country. What we need to do is start treating them as equals. Neither better or worse or different, just the same.

[bettyellen]

87. And THAT is what the slogan means- black lives matter

As much as anyone else's. It is a hard truth they are addressing and the slogan is quite fitting.

If there is a slogan needed for everyone else for some other issue- let them create their own, for fucks sake. It's a cheap shot trying to pretend it's racist of self segregating- cheap and lazy.

[A Simple Game]

89. No it isn't racist it is discrimination. For good or bad you are setting up a group of people

as having different needs from the rest of society and that is discrimination.

My point is that discrimination for any reason is adding to the problem and not a cure.

Are you trying to say that Blacks need more, less, or different treatment than other segments of society? I am only saying Blacks, or anyone else, need the same treatment as the rest of society, nothing more and nothing less.

[bettyellen]

90. So all advocacy is discriminatory? bull shit. Men do not need abortion services,

And white people in America do not need to be protected against institutional racism. You can't include everyone when everyone doesn't need it.
This is facile shit peddled by selfish jerks who'd prefer to keep things as they are. It's ridiculous.

[A Simple Game]

91. No all advocacy is not discrimination. Or a better way of saying it would be:

Advocacy for all is not discrimination but advocacy for some is discrimination. Do you think Blacks want preferential treatment or equal treatment? Perhaps you don't understand the definition of discrimination? As for white people not needing to be protected against racism? It's not so bad now but in the past discrimination against people besides Blacks was rampant, the Irish and Chinese among others come to mind. As for now, regardless of color, mentally handicapped people seem to be discriminated against, as are homeless, and of course women and Mexicans among others. Do their lives matter to you?

And real cute calling me a jerk, does that mean you know you are wrong? Is that why you wouldn't answer the question I asked? And if you say Blacks need special treatment how is that not discrimination? And if I say all people should be treated the same, after what you have said how could you not consider that to be change?

[bettyellen]

96. Racism against white people in the 21 century USA? Ha ha ha

It's not Black Lives Matter more - it's that they matter also. This baloney about it discriminating against whites is twisted.

[A Simple Game]

112. Whoi said the 21st century, move the goal posts much? n/t

[bettyellen]

123. So- you'd like this conversation to have no modern context

Lol- hilarious how frequently that happens when discussing racism or sexism in this day in age in the USA! Which is what we were doing.
Nice try!

[A Simple Game]

126. So you admit there is discrimination other than against Blacks.

Sexism is a form of discrimination and according to you is alive and well in the 21st century. Do "Women's Lives Matter?" How many signs do you think we should carry? But according to you racism only counts if it is against Blacks.

I still don't think you understand what discrimination is or any of it's history in this country. Nor do I think you even understand that racism doesn't always refer to Blacks.

Discrimination is a fascinating subject you should do some studying on it.

[bettyellen]

127. I hope you're kidding.

[A Simple Game]

128. Am I kidding about Sexism is a form of discrimination?

Most certainly not!

You are to the point that you should be ashamed of yourself and not just for thinking some lives are worth more than others.

Enough of you.

[Rex]

22. No that is not it at all, here is the real reason so many found All Lives Matter offensive.

I swear, why is it a username on the internet can know this shit...but a campaign manager just let's it fly right over their head? HRC campaign team must be really stupid or just not care about current events.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/19/glenn-beck-holds-rally-at-charleston-confederate-war-memorial-crowd-chants-all-lives-matter-images/

"Glenn Beck Holds Rally At Charleston Confederate War Memorial, Crowd Chants ‘All Lives Matter’ (IMAGES)"

So basically HRC and Glenn Beck said the same thing only days apart in the same town (Glenn first then a few days later HRC)...tell me that wasn't a huge mistake!

[upaloopa]

28. Bull shit it isn't racist

Everything isn't racist even if a racist says it. A non racist can use the same words and mean something different.

[Oilwellian]

39. You obviously are not paying attention n/t

[tapermaker]

12. NPR?

is this the Now Pure Republican radio ch.?

[jwirr]

15. Many thanks. Once again our Bernie refuses to condemn his opponent. The other poster here

on DU made is sound like he refused to talk about race. But what he was obviously doing was refusing to attack Hillary's use of "all lives matter" yesterday. The press cannot stop trying to cause a fight.

[madfloridian]

19. The interviewer was actually harassing him about when Hillary said "all lives matter".

It's getting ridiculous. Our so-called public radio is getting pathetic.

[jwirr]

24. Has been since the bush years.

[KoKo]

64. K&R!

[Rex]

25. It's the M$M, they do not know what to do with a career politician that did not

make millions and billions of dollars while in office. They do not know how to approach someone that will not play the $game$.

[BlueCheese]

26. Exactly.

The media tries to stir crap up all the time, and people who are too busy to look into it, or just looking for reasons to hate latch on it.

Hillary Clinton gives a thoughtful speech about all the real issues on race that go beyond the surface, and all anyone talks about is that phrase. Kudos to Bernie Sanders for squashing that kind of talk.

There's no reason that a primary has to turn into a mudslinging contest. It can be a discussion of ideas and direction. Why does everyone have to reach the conclusion that their candidate is FDR and the other has to be Pol Pot?

[kwassa]

70. No, Bernie refused to talk race.

I heard the interview.

[jwirr]

84. Bull you might as well give up - most of us have read it by now. We know the truth.

[kwassa]

92. Reading it won't get you the tone of Bernie's voice. This is missing from the transcript.

He was argumentative, blunt, and dismissive.

and if you really read the transcript, it is right there in his words.

This is the first time I've listened to an interview with him. I have made no decision about any of the Democratic candidates. None of them really excite me. I had no real opinion on Bernie before this interview.

The words Bernie chose, however, shows how completely ignorant he is about black people, or their issues, but what is worse is how little he cares about those issues.

[BlueCheese]

29. Also...

"Neither of our candidates are the least bit racist in views or actions. We do them both harm with such attacks."

I could not agree more strongly.

If the media and everyone else, even some people here on DU, could understand that, we'd take a giant step forward in our public discourse.

[madfloridian]

31. Agree.

It's getting bad here, and it doesn't look good.

[Fumesucker]

30. NPR is slipping, they didn't tell him about his Israeli dual citizenship even once

[Fast Walker 52]

35. LOL

Fuck NPR. Corporate faux-public radio.

[Prism]

33. It's an interview Clinton supporters should get behind

Because the media in this case very much wanted Sanders to capitalize on Clinton's gaffe, and he wasn't going there. No matter how painfully, desperately that interviewer was looking for a Clinton slam, Sanders wasn't giving it to him.

[madfloridian]

42. Yes, he was refusing to attack her.

[Prism]

43. But he's at fault for that, too

The man just cannot win. Don't attack Hillary, he doesn't care about minorities. Go after her, he'd be a cynical politician being unfair.

Whatever. It's primaries =)

[Fast Walker 52]

34. I really just love how Bernie stays on the real message.

#FeeltheBern!

[madfloridian]

41. Yes, he does.

[Art_from_Ark]

79. One reason why I admire Bernie

He cuts through the bullshit, and in a classy manner at that.

[valerief]

53. Yeah, he's a class act. nt

[madfloridian]

36. Transcript is up.

BS: Am I ready to go to Ferguson? What do you think I've been saying on the floor? When the lives matter, it means we are not going to accept police brutality or illegal behavior against young African Americans OR anybody else. But when you talk about "lives matter," sometimes what we forget is when 51 percent of young African American kids are unemployed. Are those lives that matter?

DG: "But what do you make of Hillary Clinton being dinged by some people for not using that phrase..."

BS: <inaudible> I want to get back to you. No, no, no one second, alright. 51 percent of young African American kids are unemployed, that's in a generation. One out of three or one out of four young black males born today are likely to end up in jail. Do you think that's an issue we should be talking about?

...BS: Phraseology, of course I'd use that phrase. Black lives matter, white lives matter, Hispanic lives matter. But these are also not only police matters, they're not only gun control matters, they are significantly economic matters.

And then there's this...

BS: Is your point being that people should not contest elections, that we should simply have the establishment bringing forth a candidate and anyone who rose...is that your point?

DG: It's not my point...People have made comparisons to your candidacy...

BS: People have made a whole lot of points. So the implication is I guess somebody should decide who the candidate is and we should all go to sleep. Well that's a good idea, that's what really democracy is about, right? That's an absurd point. The point is that we need serious debate about serious issues in this country. I've been in Congress for 16 years, in the senate for nine years, a mayor for eight years. I've got a pretty good record. And what I'm trying to do is speak for the needs of working families in this country and have an intelligent debate on serious issues. I've never run a negative political ad in my life, I personally respect Hillary Clinton and I like her. But if anyone thinks that having debates on issues is a bad thing for America, uh, frankly I don't know what world they're living in.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/25/417180942/sanders-my-goal-right-now-is-to-win-this-election

[madfloridian]

37. Calling either candidate racist needs to stop.

It's making the forum look really bad.

[hifiguy]

50. It does indeed.

But all of us know from which camp the sleazy innuendo - not enough guts to make blatant and outright lies - came from.

[tishaLA]

51. Has someone here called either of them racist?

Or have they critiqued their responses to questions and policies about race?

[Fumesucker]

60. It's been implied big time...

For instance in this OP about Bernie an extremely bigoted picture was put that had nothing to do with the post..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026737025

What does this picture have to do with Bernie Sanders? Read the post and see if you can find any connection other than a desire to paint Sanders as a racist...

[tishaLA]

65. what the ever loving fuck is that even about?

Have you ever heard Johnson's critique of the metaphysical poets? He says that in Donne and other metaphysical poets, images are “violently yoked” together. That's an apt description of what was going on there. But, in its confusion, I still don't think it calls Sen Sanders a racist. To me, it suggests that he doesn't address race qua race often enough or thoroughly enough. How Sen Sanders (or the picture) wound up there in the first place is kinda beyond me, tough.

[Fumesucker]

67. The picture was put there by the OP who refused to remove it despite many requests in the thread

In the end we will all see what we wish to see though.

[grahamhgreen]

124. Yup

[hifiguy]

48. Bernie knows all the media tricks

and he cannot be tripped up by a one of them.

And the media can't believe he won't play on their turf and terms.

Love it!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

54. Bernie poses a serious threat to the "not as bad" Decaf wing of the party.

[BeanMusical]

57. +1

[calimary]

59. "Neither of our candidates are the least bit racist in views or actions."

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Indeed! And I hope people notice - NEITHER of our candidates (well, neither of our two top candidates, although there are others in the running but without as much traction) is badmouthing the other. Not Bernie at Hillary. Not Hillary at Bernie. They are both being VERY professional and cordial and rather elegant and, IN PARTICULAR, NOT divisive!!!!!!

So if OUR two preferred leading candidates aren't going there, WHY SHOULD WE???????????

I will vote for Hillary in the primary. I will vote for the one who wins the nomination. Whether she beats him to it, or he beats her to it.

Because I'M voting for the Supreme Court picker. We ALL will be voting (or I suppose pouting against) the one who will be picking the next Supreme Court justices. I think from what happened today we can all see what an advantage it is when we have justices we can count on. We need to fortify what we saw today and make sure a 6-3 ruling in the good direction is typical, and not the occasional lucky fluke or pleasant surprise.

[madfloridian]

68. Exactly, calimary. They are being respectful to each other.

And we should be as well.

[nikto]

98. You are correct .... On this type of disagreement, Let us have PEACE!

IMO, any disagreements between candidates or their supporters should be based on POLICIES and laws,
and not on stupid media talk-points and superficial "phraseology" so important to tv talking air-heads.
The fact that Bernie obviously wants to keep it on that level, is part of the reason I support him.

Let's all stick to IDEAS, and not idiosyncratic interpretations and parsing of wordings and such.
When we fall into such disagreement on superficialities we fall into the trap corporate media sets for
The Masses every day.
Regarding Bernie vs Hillary, inserting that extra (and fake) divisive issue would be Mission Accomplished for elites,
who would love to annoint 1 (Hillary, or a GOPer) while burying another (Bernie).

[madfloridian]

105. Very much agree.

There will be enough to differ about.

[nikto]

107. Disagreement is fine ...

As long as it involves REAL ISSUES like TPP, foreign policy, healthcare, education policy,
tax reform (i.e. increase on wealthy), Wall St enforcement, etc etc etc.

[pacalo]

61. It's refreshing to have an experienced candidate refuse to entertain petty, baiting questions.

"Bernie didn't just dodge the question; he showed Green how stupid, meaningless, and insulting to voters the question was."

I'm really loving Bernie.

[madfloridian]

74. Yes, it was.

[DrBulldog]

62. Wonderful to hear Bernie Sanders tell the interviewer very firmly but respectfully . . .

. . . to shut the f*#k up until Bernie finishes his point and to stop pushing a personal media agenda.

[madfloridian]

72. Wasn't it though?

[Phlem]

63. K&R!

[FloriTexan]

69. Kick!

[madfloridian]

73. Thanks.

Hi, now we are getting rain coming our way. Lots of thunder and lightning.

[madfloridian]

71. Another favorable comment from DKos diary.

That was quite an interview (42+ / 0-)

David Green got his ass handed to him. Morning Edition hosts tend to ask silly, fatuous questions, but David Green outdid himself. I appreciated the way Bernie redirected the questions to focus on substantive issues. My wife and I listen to Morning Edition on the morning commute, although it frustrates me. It was nice to see one of their vapid "journalists" get called out on a stupid question. I'm neutral in the primaries, not picking one or the other yet. But that was a pretty damn good interview on Bernie's part. Credit where credit is due.

[kwassa]

93. David Green did his job. Bernie ducked the questions.

David came back to the same question after Bernie ducked it, and Bernie ducked it a second time.

[GeorgeGist]

109. I thought your sigline was snark ...

Thanks for setting me straight.

[HFRN]

75. People overrate Sander's speaking skill

it's easy for a politician to sound brilliant, by just telling the truth

he's one of the few, that do

[madfloridian]

76. Good point.

[G_j]

99. I think we are ready for a Brooklyn accent

straight talk, not oration.

[99th_Monkey]

108. The truth as a ring to it, that outshines hollow rhetoric and focus-group talking points

and Bernie's voice rings true.

[LiberalElite]

80. In GD they were claiming that Bernie blew this interview nt

[madfloridian]

95. That's why I posted.

They are still claiming it.

[SomeGuyInEagan]

116. Hearing the interview v. reading the story online, perhaps?

Sanders was dismantling David Green's questions, Green made himself look very bad.

But if you only go by the story that NPR posted - and NOT listen to the interview - you get none of that. They seriously cherry-picked from the interview for the text of the story.

[hopemountain]

83. bernie's integrity, experience,

instincts and bullcrap sniffer had him running circles around the arrogant david greene. i hope david greene's ears were burning and he had experienced a flush of adrenaline and shame. next thing you know, he'll be on faux.

[PBass]

88. Certain shows on NPR kinda suck...

Morning Edition and The Takeaway seem particularly bad.

[madfloridian]

106. Another post at DKos today about Bernie's interview. Many recs.

From diarist Bob Johnson.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/25/1396420/-Smell-the-panic-Killing-the-Sanders-surge-in-the-crib

So when I hear McCaskill -- an all-in, "Ready-for-Hillary!" advocate -- trot out the "socialist" rhetoric, I am immediately brought back to the panic-stricken `08 Clinton campaign that sent out the likes of Bob Kerrey shortly before Hillary's disastrous performance in the Iowa caucus to say crap like this:

“It’s probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim. There’s a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal.”

Hear the echo?

I am sure the Clinton brain trust is saying among themselves, "We're not going to have that problem again! We're killin' this one in the crib!"

[raouldukelives]

110. K&R nt

[L0oniX]

111. K & R

[StopTheNeoCons]

125. I will vote for Bernie in the primary. I will vote for the one who wins the nomination.

yes