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Forget the polls for now on the Democratic side... they mean not much this early.
Why you say?
Yesterday I was recounting the story of the Bernie Sanders Interview with Wolf Blitzer at the local tavern.
And almost everybody had an opinion... Except Joe...
Joe piped up and asked out loud... "Who's Bernie Sanders ?"
And after we told him of his history and his uphill fight, he assured us that he was gonna go home and research him.
But that's beside the point...
My question is... Because it may well be Hillary at the end of the day...
AND... because Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have been out front vocally calling out the PTB...
Isn't it gonna look like HRC is... no matter what she says... is trying to catch-up/mimick/pander/etc...
IOW... is she being too cautious in letting others define the fight ???
Have they been caught thinking they were gonna be unopposed ???
Action_Patrol
(845 posts)Everyone is up in arms as if the alarm has been going off for an hour when the alarm is still shrink wrapped in its packaging and hasn't even been plugged in yet.
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upaloopa
(11,417 posts)is following the lead of others. What difference will it make when she is the nominee?
Some here won't like her no matter what happens and will see things through their own paradigm whether realistic or not.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Trading to provide FREE COLLEGE for everyone; HRC wants to have "Conversations"
about ending inequality.
HRC' job is to limit the discussion to "Acceptable" (to the Monied Elite) solutions.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)she has held back too much an too many positions... she has a record that anyone can look up she is not much different from her husband or from Obama (as he has turned out) she is a politician through and through and is not going to commit to anything before she has to...
At this point Warren and Sanders are out front with solid positions on things that count and from what I have seen of both of them they are not saying anything different than they have said pretty much all along... They don't seem to be standing around with a finger in the air trying to judge which way the wind is blowing, they are the wind.,....
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)We should just shut up and listen to our betters.
I am GLAD Bernie is on the job for US.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Looking like a "me too! look at me!" candidate leaves that person vulnerable to being accused of being inept and unconcerned with issues that really matter to the average person.
However, the Hillary camp will probably claim its up to Hillary to determine the issues the voters should care about, dismissing the concerns of the Sanders/Warren wing with disdain for the issues many of us find so important.
And round and round we go.
Mike Nelson
(9,984 posts)...he will have a chance to have a moment in the sun, if he is able to grab the media attention during a debate or something.
I believe Hillary Clinton is preparing to be challenged, possibly. She knows politics can change suddenly.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,984 posts)Bernie, not "Wolf" Blitzer
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)With that, she has two goals. Win the primary and the general. Nothing she has done so far even remotely resembles the comment that she thinks she is running unopposed. She has acted masterfully with the media and her favorability is backing that up. Her roll out has been excellent to the point anyone would want to be in her position at this point. Hillary has been a leader for a long time. Strong women offend a lot of people. She will continue to do so. This country knows her strength. Republicans are scared shitless of it. They all know the whole following thing just isn't based in reality. I hope it comes up often because it will do nothing but piss women and progressive men more putting even more people in her corner. Gowdy and those attacking her are her best friends right now. She knows that and is handing them rope. Sanders isn't her main concern. Campaigns at this level are much bigger than that. Clinton also doesn't seem to be Sanders biggest concern right now. Imagine that.
Good op that I believe will lead to a good discussion.