I would like to welcome now Rachel Maddow to the

[nadinbrzezinski]

Tea Parties are extreme and cannot be predicted line of thought.

Welcome Rachel, some of us have blogged about that literally for years now.

[sufrommich]

1. Yeah,I'm pretty sure Rachel has had that figured

out for a while now,along with every other human with working brain cells.

[cali]

2. wow. trust you to condescend to Maddow

Not to mention that Rachel Maddow is hardly new to this thought- that the TP is extreme.

Had you done any actual research the way a real reporter should, you'd know this.

Again, you make the MSM look good.

[Aerows]

4. This isn't an ugly post

It's a come to Jesus post. Actually read before commenting, please. And I love your posts so don't think I am chastising without reason. This is from a friend.

[cali]

7. we disagree. on all counts. and that's fine

the op has a history of posting terribly erroneous stuff.

[2banon]

156. seriously? I haven't found either to be the case, and I enjoy reading your OP's.

too. I'm thinking there's a misunderstanding vis a vis text format.

[malaise]

203. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

remember when Obama had a good chance of losing.

[pintobean]

8. The only problem is

the confusion on who Jesus is.

[VanillaRhapsody]

11. Rachel needs a "come to Jesus"?

seriously....? GMAFB

[Jim Warren]

60. Condescension is the mask of insecurity.

Transparent as it is.

[NuclearDem]

3. Rachel's been pretty on the case about that for a while now.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Yeah, so have many of us

I still find it funny how the commentariat is joining the rest of us.

[VanillaRhapsody]

121. apparently just a member of the non-professional "commentariat"

[DonCoquixote]

111. in al fairness

Maddow's main scithck has been snarking on all the right, especially the Tea Party. Her snark has been only so far removed than Jon Stewart. It would be one thing if she defended the Tea party in time past. Hell, but she never did. If so, by all means, show a few blue links, I will read them.

Now, on the other hand, some of the sniping on ND is a bit over the top. It used to be we had something called "terms of service", which meant you could not insult people personally, i.e. your disagreement with ND did not mean you got to insult them as people. Of course, the powers that be gave up on that becaise it was abused, but of course, in doign so, they thre red bleeding meat to people who were ready to do a free for all. In other words, disagree with whoever you want to, but if you throw in posts that says "this OP always does this offense." yadda yadda, you do not help your cause, and while I have disagreed with ND more than may share of times, I find her to be one of the more informed voices on here, always worth hearing, not someone you bully off.

[nadinbrzezinski]

112. To be honest, the bullies won

you see, I would have had more detail here, but at this point I no longer feel like that is needed or wanted, not here. I expect this to be alerted as well, as a personal attack, never mind the personal attacks are relentless.

For the record not by you.

But at this point, all analysis is done, not here.

It is these relentless personal attacks, and even questioning what I do for a living, that makes this place a news aggregator any longer. Alexa is starting to tell the story too.

That is actually making me smile. Now off to post an alert on electric lines down

[Benton D Struckcheon]

202. Like some cheese with that whine?

Your OP was remarkable for its blatant, unrelenting - short as it was - stupidity. Showing it off further doesn't make you look good. I read your self-serving thread over in Occupy re the same nonsense you just posted, and just figured eh, whatevs. But this is ridiculous.
If you feel the way you do, you know what to do. Whining incessantly and pointing at yourself and saying "how great I am, it's so hard to be humble" is not a winning case.

[nadinbrzezinski]

207. would you like some chianti as well

[SlimJimmy]

217. Is this a paid position? I thought you volunteered at the online paper?

... and even questioning what I do for a living,

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. So we are calling out a Rhodes Scholar and Oxford graduate with Doctorate in Politics

now? Is that what passes for "investigative journalism" these days?

[sufrommich]

9. This. I'd like to see a link regarding Maddow

ever,ever claiming the Tea Party aren't extremists. It's just a dumb "look at me" OP.

[cali]

12. more like an "I'm right and so far ahead of the curve and outshine people like Maddow"

OP

[sufrommich]

17. Because for awhile Rachel Maddow did not understand

that the teabaggers are extremists! When was that? Nobody knows.

[Turbineguy]

34. I don't think it's about extremism (we all know that), it's about predicting them.

In her show yesterday she made it quite clear that they are completely confused and contradictory.

[dkf]

15. Could you stop this please? It's unpleasant and so unnecessary.

[pintobean]

19. That seems to be the consensus

on the OP.

[dkf]

28. It's gang and bully behavior for gods sake.

I was going to say it belongs in a playground but really it shouldn't belong there either.

[hrmjustin]

36. Yes it does belong in a playground.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

69. she's drawing a gigantic target on her own back with OP's like this

so unless you are saying this is compulsive behavior she can't control, then she kind of deserves all the attention she's getting on her outrageous claim.

[hrmjustin]

78. What is her outrageous claim?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

80. she claims that Rachel Maddow, one of the best journalists on the air today,

was late to the party on recognizing the Tea Party is extremist, and why oh why, can't anyone see that Nadin has been reporting on this forever?!

A "look at me" vanity post.

[Purveyor]

110. "Rachel Maddow, one of the best journalists on the air today..." Seriously? That is indeed a

fucking stretch by anyones imagination.

[Control-Z]

116. Can you tell me what it is

you don't like about Rachel? I think she does a great job. She and Bashir are my favorites on MSNBC.

[treestar]

117. She seems to be more opinion oriented

Most famous for pulling out her hair that we are going to lose elections. Not that I don't do that, but I don't need pundits to aggravate it.

[madinmaryland]

160. Are you serious??

[KittyWampus]

155. gang and bully behavior? I could draw you a map about that….

[dkf]

176. Yeah...I agree that wasn't one of our better moments.

You were a trooper.

That's actually one of the incidents that makes me more cognizant of what we do to individuals. I added a couple of posts which I do regret.

[madinmaryland]

162. Bully behavior?? It's a discussion board. There are going to be harsh opinions, that will offend

those delicate flowers out there.

[VanillaRhapsody]

22. It may be unpleasant for you but it's not unnecessary.

[cali]

40. the op brings it on herself and I see no reason why her less than honest

posts should be treated with kid gloves.

[dkf]

57. You don't think that her post was heartfelt and a true opinion? Why?

When you are fierce and righteous about issues your posts often hit the point right on and I am nodding and laughing with you, but this sort of thing seems gratuitous and it happens all the time lately.

[cali]

64. first of all, I deal with the heat directed toward me instead of putting everyone

who dissents on an "iggy" list. Secondly, she has a long history of blatant misinformation and dissembling. Thirdly, I wouldn't dream of writing a post patronizing Rachel Maddow. and that sure as hell is what the OP does- along with the OP's usual dose of misinformation.

[Logical]

107. LOL, so if I find a really educated GOP idiot you will defend them also? n-t

[rrneck]

10. ...

[SidDithers]

13. Exactly...

Sid

[dkf]

14. Not watching TV. What is going on?

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. She finally went yesterday into why none can predict what is going to happen in DC

she has covered the Tea Parties before, but finally went into why their radicalism makes them unpredictable. You know, like many of us have written here in the past. We no longer post those articles here, but it is what it is. Increasingly the Commentariat is sounding like some of us.

[William769]

16. And yet she has a nationally televised show and you don't. Go figure!

I also wonder why?

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. But I am also an award wining journalist

you figure that out ok.

[William769]

25. If you say so.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. It is not if I say so, It is what it is.

I pick my award, second year in a row at the end of the month.

What? You also believe the actual press pass I got in my pocket issued by SDPD came in a cracker jacks box? They just don't issue those without a background check.

I have never attacked you, but please proceed.

[William769]

39. You think I attacked you for pointing out the obvious?

I have something in my pocket also. I don't need to flaunt it because it is obvious.

Have a nice day.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. You questioned, like it's become habbit with some here

what I now do for a living.

Why the animus William? I have even defended YOU from the swarm.

Don't worry I don't play rigged games, but that was a nasty personal attack. I still like you. Less now, but I still like you.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

72. phew. William is still in positive territory on the iggy meter

[cali]

75. lol

I was an early member of that group. then she took me off and then in short order she put me back on.

[dionysus]

181. don't worry. she logs out and reads the threads and sees all the posts.

kinda defeats the point of the "iggy list"

[bunnies]

90. lol. Well that makes one person.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

154. If you are a card carrying journalist then you come off as no more than you

are experiencing a bad case of professional jealousy. Sorry, but Rachel it smart, educated, has a national platform and is a RECOGNIZED expert on all things political. She has been singing the dangers of the Tea Party since its infant beginnings. Your original post was stated without logic or facts to support it. Hence the idea there is more afoot than you just don't like her...

Rachel is one of the best journalist in today's media. Other people aspire to be half the journalist she is.

[nadinbrzezinski]

157. Swing and a miss

you see, due to the swarm here, I will not bother with more than cryptic articles anymore. The full reasons for what I wrote are NOT here. Nor will they be here. Suffice it to say, it has none to do with Rachel Maddow, but an observation on the whole media.

Now have a good day.

And yes, keep swinging and missing. I really don't care.

It is just funny though in a tragic way. It speaks more about others. The word you are looking for, for this mass attacks that have lasted for a decade in a few cases starts with an I. It is not me though. The other word you are looking for is epiphany.

Nor am I the only one to reach this conclusion.

[sad-cafe]

158. then why even bother?

really truly, I am asking why?

[hrmjustin]

159. She wants to be a part of this site.

[pintobean]

164. She has a funny way of showing it

and has since I got here nearly 10 years ago.

[hrmjustin]

167. Whatever faults she may have that does not excuse some of the things that are said to her.

Say she is wrong and give the reasons. People here make it a habit of going after her. I just don't like it.

[sad-cafe]

172. it is one thing to be a part of this site

completely another to be so condescending to anyone who may have a slightly different opinion on a DISCUSSION board and then to cry bully when someone gets called out for being condescending but that is just my opinion.

[hrmjustin]

175. What I would like to know is why a bunch of people who know they are on ignore like to tease her

when she won't even acknowledge their existence. Why waste the time.
Another thing is if so many of you dislike her why not put her on ignore. I mean people are putting themselves at jury hides.

Ignore is your friend.

[pintobean]

179. Several points

No one knows who is on her iggy list, but everyone knows that she sees every post in her threads. She has repeatedly made that clear.

We've been through this before. I've given you the link to her ATA thread where Skinner gave her some advice. If and when she ever decides to follow that advice and shows this community some respect, the members of this community will treat her with respect.

Like I said, this has been going on a very long time. When she makes good posts, without arrogance and condescension, she is treated right. It's a shame that that is so rare.

This OP is nothing but silly flamebait. She's getting exactly what she wants. It's a game. If you don't want to see that, I can't help you.

If you don't want to see the results of her actions, I suggest you put her on ignore.

[hrmjustin]

180. As a host and member of Mirt I do not feel I should put anyone on ignore.

Besides I am friendly with her.

She has always been respectful to me.

[sad-cafe]

183. I do not feel you should be a host or a member of Mirt

because you can not be objective about this

I have the PM's to prove it.

[hrmjustin]

184. When I post in a thread I do not vote on it. If you were a host you would know that.

Last edited Sun Oct 13, 2013, 02:50 PM - Edit history (2)

You have PMS. Send them to me.


Edit: I am waiting for you to send them to me in the PM system.

[sad-cafe]

206. well, that is good to hear

if that is truly how you behave.

I have to wonder



You have the same PMs so you can read. Basically any time I made a comment not favoring the OP you come to chastise me. Almost as you have chastised others by threatening bans. I am not arguing further. I see the score

[hrmjustin]

208. You notice I have not said anything to you in the past few months because you have left her alone

for the most part.

And for your info I am very good at what I do here. If you doubt that you can go to skinner and ask.

And please where am I chastising others with bans?

I admit I am not perfect but if you are going to make these claims you should tell me what you mean. If you feel more comfortable telling me in a PM then do so. It will be between me and you.

[dionysus]

173. cryptic = excuse for horrendous grammar and spelling.

gotcha.

[bunnies]

93. Have you read her "award winning" journalism, Bill?

The traffic articles are killer!

[legcramp]

94. I'm sure you're much too modest to provide photographic evidence of one of your many awards

But I think you should be proud of your acheivemnts.

Here....for you doubters

[nadinbrzezinski]

95. That was last year

This year the list is out, not just what was awarded.

I will know if it was one or two, on Awards night

http://sdpressclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013-Awards-Winners-Announced.pdf

I even posted here on the photo section since I did put in a photo the paper ran last year from the Ranchita fire. If that gets any I will repost the photo there.

[legcramp]

99. You're to be congratulated and proud of what you do

Too many people in this world try denigrate other peoples achievements.

I would tell them to go out and accomplish something in their own lives instead of wasting their time tearing somebody else down.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. You know, that is their insecurity, not mine

and thank you.

They also try to bring down the second largest in circulation paper in a county because I happen to write for it. It is quite sad, but hey, it reflects on them.

It provided an epiphany, and right now, I expect this post to be alerted on. One of many reasons I have taken my analysis off site. I am tired of that crap.

[dionysus]

186. you think DUers are trying to bring down the free newspaper you write (for free) for?

[pintobean]

102. Not the empty chair photo?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023835690#post46

That certainly sounds award worthy.

[dionysus]

185. you're just jealous of the upcoming Pulitzer...

[MNBrewer]

196. With a list of winners that extensive, it looks like ALL the journalists in San Diego are awardees.

[SidDithers]

199. Everyone gets a Certificate of Participation...

Sid

[pintobean]

200. Several years ago

my mom was cleaning out her basement and asked me if I wanted a box full of trophies from my youth. I laughed and said no, but my wife insisted we should take it. I reached into the box and grabbed one of the trophies - 3rd grade soccer, 3rd place in the division. I explained to my wife that it was a losing team and there were only four teams in the division. Third place also meant second last.


That box is in our basement now. She won.

[SidDithers]

201. You must have been quite a soccer player in your youth...

Sid

[pintobean]

204. Award winning!

My first good laugh in this thread was when there was only one rec, and I clicked to see who it was. At least I came in 2nd this time.

[sufrommich]

26. Could someone who is not on Nadine's ignore list

please ask her what award she received? I'm dying to know.

[cali]

31. lol. we just asked exactly the same thing. you beat me out by 2 minutes.

[sufrommich]

35. I'm guessing no answer will be forthcoming. nt

[bunnies]

96. Here.

Enjoy. http://eastcountymagazine.org/taxonomy/term/17010

[treestar]

105. San Diego Press Club Excellence in Journalism Awards

Nadin Abbott, a citizen journalist trained by ECM, picked up a second place in the health and medicine category for San Diego’s high suicide rates—and how to get help.

As reported by East County Magazine

[Whisp]

33. I think it was when she had too much wine for that wind turbine story.

Award wining Thingie.

[Brickbat]

85. Could be the super-secret Amerian special ops soldier guy who died in Syria.

[treestar]

106. Hey!

They cause cancer, kill birds, and sometimes big chunks of them fly off! I've never been able to see wind power the same way since!

[Whisp]

109. and that kind of nonsense talk is what comes out of koching Teabaggers ignorant yaps.

It was the Koch Bros. that were behind all this disinformation on wind turbines - iirc a show on PBS sounded much like that ridiculous crap at that ridiculous website Nadin writes on. A reasonable person would admit being snookered and at least half apologize, but no, she right, we wrong, forever!

[Brother Buzz]

45. 8 of 11 awards recognize ECM's in-depth coverage of energy issues in our region

Hubby and boss got plaques, she was awarded a certificate suitable for framing

[sufrommich]

47. Awards from who?

And what is ECM?

[Brother Buzz]

58. San Diego Press Club

Can you say Chamber of Commerce?

East County magazine. ECM is an online version of the Penny Saver that pelts our driveways

[hrmjustin]

63. She won second place in the health and medicine category.

[sufrommich]

68. You realize those are vanity awards that

the submitter pays for,right?

[hrmjustin]

70. To be honest I do not know about these awards because it is not my field.

You asked if someone can contact her and I did.

She is a journalist and I do not think she implied she was better then Rachel.

[cali]

71. She's claimed to be so many things that it's hard to keep up

and she's claimed expertise in so many fields it's dizzying.

Walter Mittyesque.

[hrmjustin]

73. She is a journalist. I think she has proven that.

[cali]

81. no she hasn't. as far as I can determine she has only written for

this online ECM thing which as I understand it anyone can write for. and it's clear no one proof reads her error laden pieces therein.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022859950

You want to claim that's being a gainfully employed reporter, feel free.

[hrmjustin]

83. You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree with you. I think she has proven here

that she is a reporter.

[cali]

88. fine. you realize that you are in a tiny minority here, I trust.

[hrmjustin]

89. I am not changing my opinion to make others happy!

[cali]

101. lol. and no one asked you to. consider the word "fine" in response to your touching

faith in Nadin's credential's- despite the fact that she can't write a coherent, grammatically correct sentence to save her life.

believe what you wish. that's dandy.

[hrmjustin]

108. I am not one to be judging grammar. I do have faith in Nadin.

[hrmjustin]

92. You apparently have to pay for the Pulitzers as well.

Here for your education, from the Pullitzer site

The entry deadline has passed, and the competition is closed. Journalism published in 2013 can be submitted starting in December 2013.

Welcome!

Entry site for the Pulitzer Prizes in journalism

Each spring, Columbia University awards Pulitzer Prizes in 14 journalism categories. The winners are chosen by the Pulitzer Prize Board, which seeks to recognize journalistic excellence in eligible news organizations.

Entries must be based on material coming from a United States newspaper or news site that publishes at least weekly. Magazines and broadcast media, and their respective Web sites, are not eligible. Only material published in 2012 may be submitted.

For a list with definitions of the 14 prize categories, click here (pdf).
For a more detailed explanation of the rules, the recent changes and the FAQ on submitting an entry, click here (pdf).
For technical requirements, click here (pdf).

All entries must be submitted electronically. Submissions on paper are not accepted.

Entry deadline: Jan. 25, 2013.

Entry fee: $50 per entry - paid by credit card only (MasterCard, Visa, American Express and Discover).

Click HERE for your guide to preparing and submitting an entry.
http://entrysite.pulitzer.org/

[Comrade Grumpy]

125. I didn't realize that. Got a link for that?

[Comrade Grumpy]

126. Wow, there is a whole lot of ugly on this thread. It's almost like high school bullying.

[hrmjustin]

128. It is high school bullying.

If they think she is wrong they can clearly say it, but some take advantage and just do what they do.

[Jim Warren]

137. Oh please

There are countless times over the years easily observed where where condescension was heaped on posters to the point of belittlement by the op.

[hrmjustin]

138. So that makes it ok to gang up on her. So she was mean we are going to be mean back?

That is HS.

[Jim Warren]

140. No, but then again

don't be surprised when a bully gets back what they put out.

[hrmjustin]

141. From what I seen with some of the people in this thread she could say nothing that will stop them.

[easttexaslefty]

148. No kidding.

JUST like bullying. Just like as in it is bullying.

[hrmjustin]

150. It is sad.

[zappaman]

151. I agree.

It is sad to see someone so full of their self.
Add in a healthy dose of condensecion and u have a hilarious thread.

[hrmjustin]

152. We disagree. Lets leave it at that.

[sad-cafe]

153. it is noticed!

(. I'm going to be blunt.





The problem here isn't the jury system. The problem is you. Sometimes it takes a while, but eventually most DUers figure out how to get along with other DUers. My suggestion is that you try to do it too. )

[Brother Buzz]

171. Blunt? It's just plain dull without the link to provide some context

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=2641

[cali]

48. ack. why on earth would a rational person claim that to be an award

for journalism on a par with Rachel Maddow?

[FSogol]

62. For Meritorious Distincsion (SIC) of Mile High Turbine Blade Flying and

Wind-caused Cancer Clusters the Oil and Gas Industry presents this Certificate...

[hrmjustin]

56. She is up for this award.

http://sdpressclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013-Awards-Winners-Announced.pdf

[FSogol]

74. Geeze, I wonder why all 75 of those award winning journalists from San Diego don't all have their

own TV shows?

[hrmjustin]

76. I am sorry?

[cali]

30. OK, I know she has me on her "iggy" list, but could someone else please

ask her what journalism award she's won.

It's only been a couple of years since Nadin started claiming, based on writing for a site that evidently anyone can write for, to be a journalist and now she's claiming to be an "award wining journalist".

Walter Mitty fabulist.

[Walk away]

44. Sure...Nadine, What award are you referring to? nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

130. Or you could do the research yourself. It's out there. But it's easier just to slag.

You're quite proficient at it. And, as you like to say, it's disgusting.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

67. you mean you wine (sic) about the awards you don't have?

[Comrade Grumpy]

127. Do you EVER have anything positive to say? Or are you all snark.

Your posts seem to be the very definition of trollery. Nothing but shit-slinging.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

142. Selective reading on your part, I think

[morningfog]

216. Not by a long shot. Check that transparency page! Even after Skinner's change and warning.

[kestrel91316]

218. Not at all. Lots of us have noticed your behavior.

[QC]

187. I'll take Door #2, Monty!

[madinmaryland]

163. Sometimes I wonder if you had a couple of glasses of wine before you post.

Or are you a reviewer of fine wines?

[nadinbrzezinski]

165. And some people have problems following links already posted

in this thread, so for your benefit

http://sdpressclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2013-Awards-Winners-Announced.pdf

[madinmaryland]

168. For an award wining journalist, I am surprised you missed the point of my post...

BTW, congrats on your award.



Merlot, Shiraz, Pinot Noir,??

[nadinbrzezinski]

169. They are offering local drinks

I will stick to the Starbucks and water though. A few of my local counterparts will imbibe though

[ScreamingMeemie]

122. To be fair...dozens of RW idiots have nationally televised shows...

No dog in the fight, just stating a fact.

[William769]

123. Agreed.

But there is no way Rachel Maddow could be lumped in that group unless the person trying is just insane.

[ScreamingMeemie]

124. Also agreed.

Decided to add a comment: I find it a rather weak argument is all.

[tkmorris]

18. Nadine you make it VERY hard to sympathize with you

When you post crap like this. You didn't scoop Maddow. You not only aren't in her league, you two operate on completely different planes of reality. Just stop this. It makes me cringe, knowing what you are going to get as feedback.

[FSogol]

21. Her response will be: Off to the ignore list with you!

Although it will be worded as a series of non-sequiturs.

[VanillaRhapsody]

24. and don't forget "I am leaving because I don't like the atmosphere at DU anymore"

[Pretzel_Warrior]

79. correction: Iggy list. PLONK!

[Control-Z]

114. This. (nt)

[uppityperson]

119. Thank you. Succinct and right on.

Nadin does what she does, Maddow does what she does. Posting stuff like this does nothing positive.

[AngryOldDem]

211. I agree.

Posts with no context, and we're to assume she's right, and she takes to task probably the most intelligent journalist/commentator working today.

But this has attracted attention, so I guess in her mind it's a success.

[dionysus]

20. on todays episode of "The Flight of the Popinjay"

AKA "look at ME ME ME ME DERP"


spread your wings and fly...

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. more like "The Conchords"!

[SidDithers]

193. She's reporting on real world issues...

Sid

[DevonRex]

53. Riffles at high noon tomorrow!!!

In hazmat suits because of the scary radioactive Pacific Bluefin Tuna. And nowhere near any of those deadly windmill farms, either.

[AngryOldDem]

212. LOL!

Usually I don't mind her stuff, but I do mind when she posts it and then acts surprised/outraged/angered when people call her out on her claims. Just be prepared to defend the stuff you post, without being obtuse, as she was to my post downthread.

[geek tragedy]

37. You mean nadin didn't PLONK Maddow to the iggy list? nt

[Brickbat]

42. You've still got her beat on condescension, though.

[hrmjustin]

43. The Tea party is extreme and I can't wait till next year when my congressman gets tied to them. I

live in a swing district so next year will be fun.

Hugs Nadin.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Oh it will be fun

I wonder if this year we can finally nail Duncan Hunter? Ain't holding my breath, and last cycle he actually skipped a debate. I got the picture of the empty chair.

[hrmjustin]

49. We have several swing districts here in NY. Considering the fact we are not a swing state it does

make life interesting. The Tea Party is hurting the GOP mayoral candidate Joe Lhotta now.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. NY like Cali, iirc has a citizen's commission setting the boundaries

so the gerrymandering is not as maddening. There is some protection of members, like oh Rengel, but it is less dramatic than oh the Carolinas or Tennessee

[hrmjustin]

51. I hope we pick up the state senate.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. That be good

[TDale313]

52. ...

[MineralMan]

54. Ah, I'm pretty sure she's known that all along.

Very sure, in fact. Perhaps you haven't been listening to her...

[MineralMan]

87. I'm commenting only on Rachel Maddow.

Clearly she has been aware of the Tea Party's nutcase heritage for many years.

[sakabatou]

59. *facepalm*

[rdharma]

61. Wow! This attempted slam on Rachel Maddow is truly pathetic.

Please stop digging. ...........Please!

[Pretzel_Warrior]

65. so....you have been ahead of the curve on virtually everything

too bad you can't link to those wise writings of yours to really spike the football.

[jberryhill]

66. She must be honored. Does she get an award certificate from you?

[Control-Z]

77. Perhaps she's been secretly reading your blog?

Finally, after literally years, she throws caution to the wind and uses the material as her own. That would explain her sudden understanding.

[nadinbrzezinski]

82. The comentariat is finally going there

it is not that they did not know it. It is just that it's become unavoidable.

When chattering classes go there though, you just crossed another bridge, another moment in time.

I could go into why this maters, but you know what? Not here. It's not worth it.

[cali]

86. such nonsense. I could link you to literally thousands of stories by the

"comentariat" that go back several years and discuss the tea party's extremism. Try reading Slate, Harper's, Salon, The Atlantic- just to name a few. Try listening to Thom Hartmann, Bill Maher and many others including Maddow.

Utter baloney. your forte

[dionysus]

144. the self importance is a sight to behold, isn't it?

[zappaman]

146. Awesome to behold. N/t

[sad-cafe]

147. it is something

alright

[MineralMan]

97. The "chattering classes?"

You mean journalists and political commentators? Really? "Chattering classes?" Don't you align yourself with journalism? This doesn't make much sense to me, so maybe you can explain what you mean, exactly. Are we to infer from your thread that Rachel Maddow is merely a chatterer who should not be paid any attention?

I'm confused here.

[Jim Warren]

91. I sense more than a little

masochistic aesthetic at work here.

[madrchsod]

98. what? rachel has been reading my facebook page?

i've watched my otherwise nice intelligent republican friends descend into a virulent hatred of obama. people who would never associate with anyone as stupid as the average teaparty member kiss their asses not so much as they agree with them they seem more afraid not to agree.

[nadinbrzezinski]

104. Among many

[bunnies]

100. Looks like youre taking a thrashing.

Maybe its time for ANOTHER GCW post.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

113. Miriam Raftery, editor/founder of online mag "East County News" on public access

Here ya go. Pretty interesting.

[treestar]

131. Miriam is impressive

I like what she's trying to do.

[SidDithers]

132. That's DUer Liberty Belle, in case you didn't know....

Sid

[treestar]

133. Hey thanks!

[madrchsod]

136. cool....she`s actually trying to change the system.

i`ll have to watch for her posts

[sad-cafe]

115. oh good lord

really?

[awoke_in_2003]

118. Youve lost me here, Nadin...

when has Rachel ever said the baggers weren't extreme?

[nadinbrzezinski]

120. You got a PM

cryptic is all I have left for DU anymore.

[cyberswede]

192. Do you plan to post cryptic posts here with no additional information?

I don't understand what the purpose of that is.

If you have interesting information to share, you should share it.

If you're trying to avoid unpleasant replies in your threads, it seems to me that being cryptic would only exacerbate the problem.

[nadinbrzezinski]

194. Oh take my word, or not, the unpleasantness comes regardless.

So I no longer post analysis here.

The very ugly bullies win. It's pathological, and not on my part.

[cyberswede]

197. I just wonder about the many DUers who read your posts and never reply...

Cryptic posts don't inform anyone, so wouldn't such posts be a disservice to those who appreciate information? Wouldn't it be better to simply skip posting something rather than posting about it cryptically?

I have no problem with you or your posts, but I can't figure out how being cryptic would add anything to DU.

[nadinbrzezinski]

198. my particiation has mostly

Been reduced to atta boys and kick and recommend

My work is availsble, just not here

And as others take a similar path, this place continues to go down It's a very nasty environment any more. One that is not healthy

[pintobean]

195. I suspect "cryptic" is

CYA lingo for PUI bullshit.

[Comrade Grumpy]

129. I think the OP is dumb, but this thread is just full of ugly, and it ain't coming from Nadin.

[madrchsod]

134. i don`t agree with the first statement but the rest you are spot on

i follow nadin here and on her facebook. we might not like her or what she writes here but she`s out there covering stories where she lives and mexico. i`m not sure how many others here at du are actual reporters.

[hrmjustin]

135. I got into with one the other day that thought she was making the whole thing up.

I don't understand their hatred.

[madrchsod]

139. i have have some ideas why but who knows....

i could be wrong.

[kestrel91316]

220. I do too. We're not wrong. I pay attention to the several DUers who consistently stalk and harass he

And mind you, sometimes I roll my eyes at her posts. I just don't see any reason to attack her.

She's always been polite and considerate to me.

[cui bono]

161. I am OP neutral but agree this thread is nasty.

[nadinbrzezinski]

166. And I cannot see most of it

but from what others have said, it must be very revealing.

[dionysus]

170. of course you can't, because all the people who realize you're full of crap are all on "iggy"

which is probably most of DU.

[sad-cafe]

174. for someone who just wants to be a part of this site

I would think having everyone who disagrees on iggy would be quite boring

[sad-cafe]

178. true

it really is sad

[Jim Warren]

182. Hammer......meet nail

Condescension is the mask of insecurity.

[kestrel91316]

219. [phone]

[zappaman]

143. Huge DU rec and kick!

One of the funniest and most entertaining threads of the year!
Well played!

[dionysus]

145. you're so going to hell. i wonder which one of us will get there first...

[zappaman]

149. My post was 100 percent honest.

[greytdemocrat]

188. Hey!!

Is it too late to get in on this one???

[Corruption Inc]

189. MSNBC is just another corporate propaganda channel full of emotional upheavals

Maddow's role in it is to feed the hysteria, not to do any actual journalism. You're exactly right in your assessment of her and the entire network, maybe one of these years the brainwashed public will get it too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

190. She is sharp. She is good

But what this us about is how what political scientists (abroad) call the chattering classes are starting to say what the rest of us have. Not because they are fools mind you, not at all. As to the rest, not here, not worth it.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

191. how to make friends and influence people, 101...

unreal...

sP

[Cali_Democrat]

205. K&R

[AngryOldDem]

209. Context, please?

She has **always** called them out on their extremism, as far as I can tell.

I just love these kinds of posts that just assume everyone knows what is being discussed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

210. She finally went where some of us have gone for a while

and it is not just her. It is the rest. We are now talking on the TV machine of an actual serious crisis.

The words many of us have used HERE are now passing lips. I could explain why that matters, and I will, but not here.

Pretty much, I am done doing any serious analysis here.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

213. then you haven't been paying attention

because people other than you HAVE been using those words for a while. and for god's sake... stop with the fucking martyrdom. you have no one to blame other than yourself for the shit that happens on threads like these...

sP

[sad-cafe]

214. you speak the truth

but sadly it won't be recognized

[Ikonoklast]

215. Oh. My.

I'd like to see you debate her one-on-one on *any* issue.

[stevenleser]

221. My money is on Maddow. nt