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At the risk of offending my DU friends, there really is such a thing as a "good Nazi"

The Key to Me About Confederate Statues is Treason

The key point about removing the Confederate statues, flags and plaques is the fact that everyone who participated and took up arms against this country during the Civil War committed treason. Slavery was the reason for the war, but a vast majority of Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves and would never have had the means to own slaves, even if they wanted to. But to take up arms against our country is the definition of Treason, and no country honors traitors. Whether or not Benedict Arnold owned salves is not as important as the fact that he committed Treason.

Washington owned slaves and Jefferson owned slaves and nearly all of our founding fathers, especially in the South, owned slaves. Slavery was an issue during the Revolution, but practicality, at the time, was an argument avoided for a victory over the British. Any attempt to abolish slavery in 1776, or even 1789 (the Constitution) would have doomed the American revolution or crippled our fledgling nation. Compromises were made (the three fifths compromise comes to mind). These are not proud instances in our heritage, especially as defined by our contemporary standards. Women didn't get to vote until 1919. How the Native Americans were treated throughout our history is a source of shame. We can point to many imperfect men during our long history.

No, the Confederate statues and other icons are more than about slavery, it's about Treason. No country should honor traitors.

So here's my rule of thumb on historical monuments. If an individual needed a pardon in order to avoid being hanged for treason, we shouldn't erect a statue, name a building or honor that individual in any way. Treason is our argument and that defeats "what-aboutism" every time.

I'm Rooting for Steve Bannon

I can think of a couple of historical analogies to come into play when thinking of the firing of Steve Bannon by Trump.

The first one is the old adage, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Although both Bannon and Trump are despicable characters, certainly Trump is in a stronger position to do us harm. Although I could never consider Bannon my "friend", in this instance he's more like Churchill's Stalin to Trump as Hitler.

the second, and more cogent historical analogy is an old saying attributed to former President Lyndon Johnson. "I'd rather have him inside of the tent, pissing out, than outside of the tent, pissing in."

Donald Trump, get ready for a hell of a long, deep, wet golden shower.

Pass the pop corn.

I believe that today's Camp David meeting is a ruse.

Here's my take on the scheduled Camp David meeting about America's Afghanistan policy. I think these guys are getting Trump there to read him the riot act, using Afghanistan as an excuse.

Let's look at some facts and some opinion. Gen. Kelly must be beside himself. He wants discipline and order in the White House. When Charlottesville occurred and Trump made a horrible statement on Saturday, basically defending the Nazis and the Klan, Kelly must have been horrified. Trump then went out on Monday with a carefully worded statement and must have been told "just read this". He still had to ad lib the "all sides, all sides" that ruined the whole reason for the statement. Kelly and company must have figured we can spin this, but we need to change the subject and fast. So, Tuesday was scheduled as a infra-structure plan roll out. It was supposed to be carefully choreographed. Trump comes down the elevator, reads a 5 minute statement, returns to the elevator, and then a Q&A with Mnuchin and Elaine Cho. Kelly must have been furious when that program went off the rails.

Add to this that the Joint Chiefs released a statement condemning racism the next day, Bannon's interview dissing Tillerson and McMasters and I'm guessing all the so called adults in the room have had it.

Today's meeting is with Trump, Defense Secretary Mattis, Sec. of State Tillerson, Chief of Staff Kelly VP and NSA director McMaster.

My theory goes like this. They will tell Trump that they will no longer stand for his bullshit. They will inform him that they will all resign if he doesn't get rid of Bannon, Gorka and Steve Miller.

They will further inform him that he's on a 'last chance agreement". That even after the firing of the aforementioned, if he doesn't fully the script that they will write, they will resign and speak out against him.

I think this meeting was set up so that there would be no interference from anyone else except the "Circle of Generals" plus Tillerson (who's on the same page).

They are not going to continue to participate in this circus, with this clown, but I believe they will give Trump one more chance, as long as he knows who's boss, and it ain't him.

That's my theory and I don't think it will work.

Bannon Admits He's White House Leaker

I have long suspected that one of the white House leakers was Steve Bannon.

For a smart guy, he's pretty stupid. He calls a liberal journalist who agrees with Bannon on trade and carries on a conversation. The reporter claims Bannon never said it was off the record, so his opinions on trade, Trump's position on North Korea, Bannon's opinion on the white supremacists and his opinion on other staffers all comes out.

What he said in the article is of little interest to me. What he said after it was published, that's what's interesting.

Bannon claims the conversation was "off the record" and that he never gave the reporter permission to use his name. The reporter disputes that. Does Steve Bannon know what an "off the record" conversation with a reporter in order to shield your identity is called? I know. It's called a fucking leak, you moron.

You just admitted that you're the leaker. See ya'.

I'm Going Out on a Limb Here. I Predict Trump will Resign by the End of the Year: Scenario Included

I'm Going Out on a Limb Here. I Predict Trump will Resign by the End of the Year: Scenario Included



This is a reprint of my post from Aug. 6, 2017. Could the meeting at camp David be about this? could the time table be moved up?

This is a reprint of a post from me that was before most of us even knew that there would be demonstrations in Virginia.

My Prediction:

Sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas 2017, Donald Trump will address the nation. He will open with a string of grievances, which will include but not be limited to, the press distorting his actions, the "deep state" undermining him, the Republicans abandoning him, the Democrats obstructing him, the intelligence agencies conspiring against him and probably many more.

This will be as a result of pending indictments against many of Trump's associates and family members. The investigation not only threatens them, but the Trump businesses as well. His frustration that he can't control events and that circumstances are spiraling into areas that cause him fear will be overwelming.

As a result, his speech will then lead him to declare scores of Presidential pardons, which will include dozens of the aforementioned family, friends and associates, effectively shutting down the Russian investigation.

Trump then will announce his resignation, with the understanding that Pence, once he is sworn in as President will then pardon Trump (I.E. Gerald Ford's Nixon pardon).

I really can't see this thing ending any other way.

Link to OP:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029422455

How is it that people who think it should be a crime to burn the American flag...

...support monuments for men who took up arms against the United States, committed treason, and burnt or disaccredited the American flag?

If this doesn't finish Trump, then there is no America

I can't believe what I witnessed today.

Does Donald Trump not know that Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee were traitors? That they took up arms AGAINST the United States of America. That they received a pardon, or they would have been hung? Does he not realize that you can't be a "good person" in a march when you knowingly are protesting along side people with Nazi flags?

Was he not aware of the chants about Jews on Friday night in the torch light parade reminiscent of Nazi Germany in the 30's?

What the fuck? That's all I can say, What the fuck are we witnessing? WHAT THE FUCK?

Is Drudge Turning Against Trump?

The Drudge Headline on 8/13 at 6:39 PM

MAKE AMERICA HATE AGAIN!
CHAOS AT RACE RALLY IN VIRGINIA

Removed at 6:50 PM and not placed in the body.

Link;
http://www.drudgereport.com/

Hypothetical Queston About Charlottesville

Let's suppose, for the sake of argument, that there was no violence in Charlottesville on Friday or Saturday. And let's further imagine, for the same sake of argument, that there wasn't even a counter-demonstration against the "Unite the Right" demonstrations. Let's imagine that everything went off peacefully.

That would mean that there was a Friday night, torch light parade of 6,000 people chanting Nazi slogans, carrying swastika emblazoned flags and signs, marching through an American city, supported by the Ku Klux Klan.

You think, maybe, the President of the United States should have condemned that activity as dangerous and un-American?

I sure think so.

Which brings me to another question. If you support a Nazi-Sympathizer, does that make you a Nazi-Sympathizer, too.


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