Big Blue Marble
Big Blue Marble's JournalI think often of this song of my youth.
How ominous it sounded then. How prescient it was. How expressive it is now
in defining the grief we feel at the loss the very nature that sustains us.
The only way to get it, is to spend about 45 minutes reading the Atlantic article.
The author explained that this was a far better and much more organized campaign than
2016 or 2020.
These campaign managers were implementing their theory of the campaign and it
was working. If you need proof, look at the CNN poll released today. Look where the country was
headed Sunday morning. They had substantially weakened Biden's 2020 coalition.
The only thing that was going to change the trajectory or the election, was for Biden to step down.
Of course it is a moot point now and they are undone. I would not be surprise if
Trump fires them.
And stop underestimating Trump, the cheating, lying and attempted steal of the government,
even the crimes and conviction do not matter to one half of American citizens.
Why? I do not know, but they just do not. Gaslighting works. That is why demagogues always use it.
it is not my premise that is the issue.
It was theirs. This was most likely this article that convinced Pelosi, the majority of Congress,
and maybe even Biden that he had step aside. It is chilling.how close they came to it working.
It was predicated on the perceived weakness of Biden and the actual lack of enthusiasm in
the base, plus making inroads into the minority votes in the swing states. And it was
clearly working. They and all of us were looking at realignment election that would have
destroyed our constitutional democracy.
Perception is reality.
Facts do not matter; perceptions do. Swing voters are not listening to your arguments.
They see as Biden as not as strong as Trump. That is what they will vote on, perception of strength
over competence.
As much as you want it to go away, posts like this
are not going to stop the chaos or the disagreement with your position.
The debate ignited a previously simmering discontent in the Party and in the country.
Clearly many want Biden to stay and others want a new an younger candidate. Polls
of the base indicate around 50% for Biden and 50% a younger candidate.
The answer is not clear and time is running short. This not a time for suppression and
it is not time for anger as I see so much of on DU.
We are facing an existential danger and in an old fashion phrase: Everybody is running
around like a chicken with their head cut off.
Start by calming down and and start listening to what each side is saying. Suppressing
desent will only tear the party apart.
Nearly two-thirds of Democrats want Biden to withdraw, new AP-NORC poll finds
This is a very troubling poll that indicates our party is disarray:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Nearly two-thirds of Democrats say President Joe Biden should withdraw from the presidential race and let his party nominate a different candidate, according to a new poll, sharply undercutting his post-debate claim that “average Democrats” are still with him even if some “big names” are turning on him.
The new survey by the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, conducted as Biden works to salvage his candidacy two weeks after his debate flop, also found that only about 3 in 10 Democrats are extremely or very confident that he has the mental capability to serve effectively as president, down slightly from 40% in an AP-NORC poll in February.
The findings underscore the challenges the 81-year-old president faces as he tries to silence calls from within his own party to leave the race and tries to convince Democrats that he’s the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump. The poll was conducted mostly before Saturday’s assassination attempt on Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. It’s unclear whether the shooting influenced people’s views of Biden, but the small number of poll interviews completed after the shooting provided no early indication that his prospects improved.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-poll-drop-out-debate-democrats-59eebaca6989985c2bfbf4f72bdfa112
What has come in to focus since the debate
is that many in the party leadership were lacking confidence in Biden's ability to
overcome the perception that he is too old. Many voters believe that, whether you and do or
not. The debate that was to allay those fears only heighten them. And the polls are
giving no evidence that those necessary voters have changed their minds.
It may be quite difficult for Biden to overcome that heightened concern in
the independent voters that got Biden the win in 20. The only hope is to convince
them that the dangers of Trump are greater than the risks associated with Biden's
advanced years. So far the messaging around that point have been less then effective.
The ones we see are tied within the margin of error.
In 2020, the same polls gave Biden 8-10 points at this time.
The race then tightened to Biden only winning by 4 points
and a very tight win the swing states.
He needs at least four points nationally to bring home the swing
states. Right now it just is not happening. The race has tightened
in these critical battlegrounds since the debate. These are the only
polls that matter, period. And right now, Biden is behind or tied
in all them. He is five points behind in Nevada which wasn't even
a battleground last round.
Yes things can change and I am praying they do. And polls can be
wrong and I hope they are. But let's not kid ourselves, this is at best
an very steep uphill battle at a very critical time in our nation's history.
Thank you for saying so.
I am very disturbed by how quickly these great Democrats are cut down by our own. We all
want to save our country. We are seeing it from different perspectives. Some want to rally
around the leader. Others have wavered in their confidence in that leader. Both are normal
reactions to what we all saw at the debate and some have seen elsewhere.
A circular firing squad is just what Trump and his team want. They could not be happier
as this party disintegrates before our eyes.
Snipping at each other when we need to find consensus is ineffective and frankly dangerous.
Have all these years of polarization turned so many into reactionaries that so quick turn on anyone who differs from your opinion? As I said very disturbing and not a way to win the Presidency, the House, or the Senate.
"President Joe Biden has always had a stutter. I'll take that over a lying felon."
"President Joe Biden at times struggled to convey his thoughts during his 90-minute debate with former President Donald Trump on CNN Thursday. He has stuttered all his life. For some commentators on social media, Biden’s stutter means he is feeble. It means he’s unfit. Biden is not feeble. He’s an honorable man. Trump is unfit.
On Thursday, he was back to his old script: Lying, demagoguing, filibustering, and offering simpleton answers to complex questions.
What would Trump do on climate change? “I absolutely want clean water,” Trump said. On what he would do on addiction? “The number of drugs coming across our border now is the largest we’ve ever had.” Is that an answer? No. Trump had no answers that would be of any use to Americans. Thursday’s debate was a debacle, as expected. There is no way to stand next to someone like Trump without being soiled.
Even as a younger man, Biden was never suited for the hot-take nature of televised debates. He’s never been polished like his old boss, former President Barack Obama. He doesn’t have the easy affability of former President George W. Bush or the slick style of former President Bill Clinton. He’s lived his public life in a sound-byte-free zone and no matter how much his handlers feed him pithy lines that Obama and Clinton would crush, Biden doesn’t have that gift of delivery. And if that is the standard here, that elevated glib is determinative in selecting the commander-in-chief, we have dulled our brains to the point where we deserve the leaders we get. Was it tough to watch Biden try to be something he isn’t while standing next to Trump? It was. At times, it was brutal. The exercise may have been the nadir of the Baby Boomer generation. At the very least, it’s in the top 5. But let’s separate pageantry from politics. We don’t do debates befitting the sanctity of the Oval Office anymore and we haven’t for a long time. Thursday night was the product of decades of simplifying key issues in televised debates. The last good one may have been John F. Kennedy vs Richard Nixon in 1960 and most of us weren’t alive for that one. This election before us is not about debating. No matter how much we wish for two other candidates to be vying for the big prize, the choice is between Trump and Biden. I’ll take the honorable man over the felon."
https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/article289599444.html
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