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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:37 AM
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Why do I vote anymore? To keep Palin out? She isn't going to win.
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 08:38 AM by mmonk
Meanwhile there are tax cut extensions, more war, still a security state, privatization steamrolling unabated, budget cuts, no real deriative or real financial market regulation. Can someone point me to a delineating point where my vote can change this direction or the status quo? Supreme court nominations?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:40 AM
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1. To prevent widespread Wisconsins?
That not do it for you?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:42 AM
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4. I agree Republican governors will continue our death knell.
New Republican legislatures are reducing the impact of vote even further.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:55 AM
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10. Well there ya go.
Might as well vote for prez while you are at it.

But seriously, Obama isn't perfect but he is better than a Republican takeover where they run amok instituting all their favorite pointless but symbolic gestures.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:36 PM
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27. Does it for me dkf, thanks for the post
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:40 AM
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2. How about Congress? How about state legislatures?
How about local offices? There are many candidates, and just as many reasons to vote.
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:42 AM
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3. Yeah, they said that about Bush, too.
I vote to do my part so that doesn't happen again!
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:43 AM
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5. To prevent lifetime maximums being re-established on health insurance policies?
To prevent health insurers from denying coverage based upon pre-existing conditions?

To keep a president in office who at least seems to be moving in the right direction on gay rights?

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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:43 AM
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6. Stem cell research. DADT. Health care reform.
Those things that President Obama has done have helped people. Yes, even health care reform, even if you don't think so. Do you think McCain would have done any of those things?

And it's the attitude like that that put Walker in Wisconsin and Boehner in the Speaker's seat.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:46 AM
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7. It's a charade. But vote if for no other reason than to keep Palin out.
Stranger things have happened.
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:54 AM
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8. So people like Elizabeth Warren can make changes to our system...
Think any repug would have appointed her for anything?
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:54 AM
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9. go back to Nov. 2010...
people here were bitching and saying they might not vote... I always said, "John Boehner"!!! If people had gotten out to vote 5 months ago we would not be in the mess we are in (Republicans would not hold committee chairmanships)!! (remember there is more at stake than 1 person)
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:59 AM
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12. no kidding! boner! boner! boner!...
if this last round of elections didn't show people that VOTING IS IMPORTANT! please see a shrink.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:57 AM
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11. Good question
I ran into a website yesterday that was progressive and they are starting a push for progressive liberal candidates now. I thought better than to post it here for obvious reasons.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:59 AM
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13. Unless you're in one of the key swing states your vote is useless anyway. nt
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 09:00 AM by Shagbark Hickory
For the presidential election, that is.
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fried eggs Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:00 AM
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14. Did you think bush and reagan were going to win?
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:14 AM
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16. Simple, do you want a Palin, Bachmann, Newt, Huck, as president? Nuff said. Vote democratic.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:14 AM
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17. Increase in Pell Grants
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 09:27 AM by sharp_stick
Lily Ledbeter fair pay act
Stem cell research
Science back in at the EPA
Elizabeth Warren
Supreme Court
DADT repeal


Theres a few I just pulled out of my ass, I'm sure if I looked around I could find a few more.

If you think any repuke would have allowed any of this you are either delusional or just pretending to give a shit.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:19 AM
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18. Ask Any Of My Fellow Ohioans If Voting Matters
We get to thank all the "principled" non-voters for 4 years of John Kasich around here. Imagine Kasich on a national scale. Then get your butt out of bed and go do your civic duty, A-holes.
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Sivart Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:34 AM
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19. I am not for NOT voting......but
I am not for NOT voting, but what has happened to the democratic party?

I have four kids.....I am extremely concerned about their future. We are a middle class family. Since 2008, things have gotten WORSE for us.....not better.

So, you guys can try to put on the pressure and the guilt trips, but things are getting worse with democrats in power. I am in Illinios. A blue state. We dont have a crazy republican governor.....And you know what.....there is little to no difference.

I want to vote for liberals who are Pro middle class. Period. Not just people who say it, but people who vote and legislate it.



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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:36 AM
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21. Well, I Want A Toothpaste That Tastes Like Chocolate Ice Cream
But I'm not going to stop brushing my teeth until I get one. I'm going to find the one that is the best of the available choices and go with that one.
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Sivart Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:43 AM
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23. And one other thing
My extremely religious southern baptist family continually vote on one issue - abortion. They are pro life, so this means they always vote republican. They dont look at the bigger picture.....just the one issue.

Isnt this stupid? Picking one issue and voting on it, even if it means you are voting against your best interest on a large number of other issues.....

Well, there have been some small wins for progressive liberals and the middle class since 2008, but overall, we are getting screwed, and everyone knows it. Even you guys.

I am much more worried about the overall picture and the totality of all of the issues, rather than buying into the practice of them throwing me a bone once in a while.

The middle east is going nuts, and we are foolishly right in the middle of it. These bastards know they will never get away with reinstating the draft......so the next best thing is to make sure there are alot of poor or close to poor, desperate people. Then make sure there are not enough jobs for everyone.....this makes joining the military that much more appealing, and lord knows they are going to need as many soldiers as they can get.....

this crap in lybia is the last straw for me......



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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:35 AM
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20. if we DON"T vote...they DO win. WI is a good lesson on that
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:37 AM
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22. A lot of us thought the same thing about Rick Scott in Florida
Seriously, if you had asked a year ago, nobody would have given Scott any chance of beating McCollum in the GOP primary, let alone winning the general election.
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Sivart Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:59 AM
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24. I would trade....
I would, in a heart beat, trade the health care bill for no more violent murderous destructive wars......in a freakin heartbeat.

If you dont feel the same, then i cannot relate to you.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 10:15 AM
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25. You speak as if you get one vote only, for President...
So why vote? Because to not do so would be negligence toward your own district, State, city, and County, even if you wish to skip the top of the ticket, do you really want to not vote on say, that expensive new road they want to build, or to elect a Democratic Rep over a gas bag nutter?
The west coast elected Democrats last election. It looks better here than in WI and Maine and such, you know? Gov. Kitzhaber is much better than the idiot jock the GOP ran. And Peter DeFazio sure as hell is better than Art 'Face of the Republican Party' Robinson.
To speak of 'voting' as if it only meant 'for President' is just not something I can support. Most of life is outside the Beltway, and so is much of government.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:34 PM
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26. Would you rather be punched in the nose, or have your asshole filled with molten lead? nt
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:39 PM
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28. Punched in the nose? lol, great post lol
Lou
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:40 PM
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29. Molten lead? Yikes!
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 12:39 AM
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30. it's like the justification for the 2008-09 Gaza War: Qadima has to start a war
and kill over a thousand so they look tough and are elected instead of the warmongering Likud...
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