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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:12 PM
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Whew! So it was *only* a hydrogen explosion!
I was worried for a minute there.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:14 PM
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1. What's an H-bomb?
hmmmmm......hydrogen bomb......is a nuclear weapon....hmmmm.....
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:29 PM
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2. That's not really how the physics work.
But whatever sounds good to ya.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:41 PM
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3. Fuckin' Magnets! How do they work?
:rofl:
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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:14 PM
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10. I remember that sign - hilarious
I forget what protest that was though. Was it a westboro baptist church anti-protest?
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:10 PM
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14. They go in, they go out
Wait - that's the tides.

Never mind.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:31 PM
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20. I thought that was my...
Wait. Is it Wednesday yet?
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:30 PM
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28. !
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:32 PM
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29. Damnable lodestones!
From whence hast thou acquired such arcane workings?!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:43 PM
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5. H bomb is not a hydrogen explosion
It is when the fission reaction ... Nevermind.
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:10 PM
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9. Was someone thinking
that an explosion of accumulated hydrogen gas was the same thing as a hydrogen bomb going off?
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:50 PM
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12. Bloody Germans...So the Hindenburg
really was the first atomic test and on foreign soil to!
:rofl:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:20 PM
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18. Yup...nt
Sid
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:15 PM
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11. no, it wasn't a hydrogen bomb. not the same thing as hydrogen explosion
A hydrogen bomb is made by fusion of two hydrogen atoms.

The hydrogen explosion happened when very heated (high energy, fast moving) hydrogen atoms crashed into very heated (high energy, fast movin) oxygen atoms and form H2O molecules. The chemical reaction releases a *lot* of energy, especially when it happens in high amounts.

But not as much energy as when 2 atoms merge to form a different atom, which releases atomic (or nuclear) energy and is the principle behind the hydrogen (or fusion) bomb.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:09 PM
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13. Most clueless post of the week...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:17 PM
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16. hmm no, that is not how the physics works
though a light water reactor... and hydrogen makes me go hmm
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:29 PM
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19. Jesus H. Christ on a flaming pogo stick this place needs some basic science education. (nt)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:40 PM
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22. bzzzzzzztt
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:19 PM
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25. hmmm.... maybe you should have paid more attention in high school hmmmmm....
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:29 PM
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26. Is there a contest for dumbest post on this subject or something?
It's the only explanation possible to explain some of the nonsense rattling off the keyboards of some DUers.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:42 PM
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4. OH yeah. That's a relief!
nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:44 PM
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23. To people who understand the difference between fission explosions and regular explosions it is.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:30 PM
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27. Actually it is.
If you understood the issues at work you'd get that.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:44 PM
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6. I think there's a lot of understandable assumptions and conclusions flying around the media/internet
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 04:45 PM by pinto
I agree with those who suggest we take *all* of it with informed skepticism. And put it all in context as the reports come in.

fwiw, Hydrogen explodes - as in the Hindenburg airship tragedy.

There are reports that hydrogen buildup in the outer containment structure ignited and blew up. Yet reports are unclear on the core containment structure which houses the nuclear fuel, i.e. it's stability, which is the key factor.

Apparently the venting of steam to reduce internal, core pressure buildup led to hydrogen formation in the outer structure. Which blew.

:shrug:





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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 04:54 PM
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7. I guess what I'm snarkily referencing is that
any (uncontrolled, unexpected) explosion of any type in a nuclear facility is not a good thing, under any circumstances.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:01 PM
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8. Yeah. Seems the core containment held, though, from what I read. Hope so.
Found it odd and ironic that the backups didn't work. Diesel generators to keep the electricity on to power the cooling system went down.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:16 PM
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15. Splitting the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in water means that reactor is hotter...
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 07:17 PM by roamer65
than they are telling us. Usually it is a sign of a reactor in full or partial meltdown...as at TMI in 1979. TMI was a partial meltdown.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 07:19 PM
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17. I suspect we have at least a partial
cesium and iodine... too
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 09:37 PM
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21. WP has a good graphical explanation of what happened
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:14 PM
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24. There was dihydrogen monoxide everywhere, too
That was too close..

:scared:
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