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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:15 PM
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Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 12 (or 14*), Part 6
Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 12 (or 14*), Part 6

Today's threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5

#Feb17 Youth organizers invite Gaddafi's collaborators to stand under his umbrella ella ella ella ella ella http://bit.ly/faa34E

"We have Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. Plan A is to live and die in Libya. Plan B is to live and die in Libya. Plan C is to live and die in Libya."
- Saif Islam Qaddafi
during interview

*I called this Day 12 because the official start date was #Feb17 but the kickoff was 2 days early so in reality today is day 14.

Previous Day 11 threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9

The world’s 100 largest arms dealers, excluding Chinese vendors, sold weapons for $401 billion in 2009, with US vendors in first place

Threads for Days 1-9 are in my journal

"I was born in Tunisia, I persevered in Egypt, I sacrificed myself in Libya, I have fought in Yemen&Bahrain. I am Freedom, I will not die."
- Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub

LibyanThinker The Libyan Thinker
Remains of Soldiers Burned to Death for Not Shooting Protesters in #Libya http://www.twitvid.com/YXKOT & http://tinyurl.com/4d6a57n

MAP of Protests across the Middle East



Google Earth DL here to see positions of army and patrolling route of mercenaries

Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:17 PM
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1. Tajoura so far seems the area of Tripoli giving #Gaddafi most trouble
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Tajoura so far seems the area of Tripoli giving #Gaddafi most trouble. #Libya
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:17 PM
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2. Reports that BBC will air an interview with Gaddafi himself very shortly
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Reports that BBC will air an interview with Gaddafi himself very shortly. #Libya
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:18 PM
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4. rec
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:51 PM
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27. Okay, who's got popcorn? :)
Looks like we're gonna need a lot of it.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:18 PM
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3. Confirming earlier reports about Gaddafi paranoia, there were many arrests of youths in Tripoli 2day
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Confirming earlier reports about Gaddafi paranoia, there were many arrests of youths in Tripoli today. #Libya
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:23 PM
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7. LIBYA HURRA -- !!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:19 PM
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5. Aggregating several reports, here are some great news
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Aggregating several reports, here are some great news... #Libya
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More disputes, deep divisions, and maybe even attempts at defection at a high level in Gaddafi's regime. #Libya

We know that Sirt now is no longer 100% reliable for #Gaddafi. #Libya

Also that Khamis #Gaddafi no longer is in charge of Tripoli's defense; probably another #Gaddafi is. That suggests in-fighting.

From what I can put together, #Gaddafi and his inner circle are absolutely freaking out. Afraid they'll do something desperate. #Libya
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:24 PM
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9. International Criminal Court has to be a concern for all of them --
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:57 PM
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29. I'm afraid we can bank on them "doing something desperate".
:cry:

What he is doing is solidifying the Libyan people.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:23 PM
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6. BBC interview: Libya protests: Gaddafi says 'all my people love me'

fieldproducer Neal Mann
Exactly RT @MatthewWells: @fieldproducer BBC doing it the oldfashioned way http://bbc.in/gdXnvy
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28 February 2011 Last updated at 18:19 GMT
Libya protests: Gaddafi says 'all my people love me'


Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi has told the BBC he is loved by all his people and has denied there have been any protests in Tripoli.

Col Gaddafi said that his people would die to protect him.

...

Col Gaddafi said the people who had come on to the streets were under the influence of drugs supplied by al-Qaeda.

He said those people had seized weapons and that his supporters were under orders not to shoot back.

...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12603259


interview with BBC's Jeremy Bowen in Tripoli.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:25 PM
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10. he is not going anywhere unless by force
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:32 PM
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17. More lines from the Amanpour interview with Gaddafi
fieldproducer Neal Mann
More lines from the Amanpour interview with Gaddafi http://abcn.ws/ejAd7N #Libya
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...

Gadhafi, who has ruled Libya for 42 years, said he felt betrayed by the United States.

"I'm surprised that we have an alliance with the west to fight al Qaeda, and now that we are fighting terrorists they have abandoned us," he said. "Perhaps they want to occupy Libya."

Gadhafi called President Obama a "good man" but said that he might have been given "misinformation."

"The statements I have heard from him must have come from someone else," Gadhafi said. "America is not the international police of the world."

...

http://abcnews.go.com/International/christiane-amanpour-interviews-libyas-moammar-gadhafi/story?id=13019942
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:34 PM
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19. Page grabs of the BBC interview with Gaddafi

SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Page grabs of the BBC interview with Gaddafi http://yfrog.com/h3erqhzj http://yfrog.com/h3erarhj
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Hey BBC crew! That fatwa not get to you or what?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:38 PM
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22. #G blamed al #Qaeda for encouraging young people to seize arms from military installations.
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 01:39 PM by Catherina
libyafreedomnew Libyanews
#Gadhafi blamed al #Qaeda for encouraging young people to seize arms from military installations.
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ArabicDemocrati Arabic Democracy
#Gaddafi said also, if anywhere demonstrations take place that is only the al-Quaida and the Western Countries works. #Libya


libyafreedomnew Libyanews
#Gaddafi I'm surprised that wehave an alliance with the west to fight alQaeda,and now that we are fighting terrorists they have abandoned us
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:48 PM
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25. Dude is totally diconnected form any sort of reality...except the one he's created.
Does he really believe the lies he's telling??

Wish they'd quit giving him airtime for heaven's sake.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:24 PM
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8. ABC's Amanpour interviews Gaddafi's sons video and transcript
Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
ABC's Amanpour interviews Gaddafi's sons. WATCH http://abcn.ws/hS4p35 or READ transcript v @RafaCCS http://abcn.ws/dZuiAo #feb17 #libya
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Exclusive Interview With Gadhafi's Sons
Saif al-Islam and Saadi Gadhafi sit down with Christiane Amanpour.
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/exclusive-interview-gadhafis-sons-13012336

'This Week' Transcript: Saif al-Islam and Saadi Gadhafi
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-saif-al-islam-saadi-gadhafi/story?id=13012239
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JanDutchy Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:32 PM
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18. you are in a flow Catherina: please relax
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:25 PM
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11. Gaddafi put internet back online. arresting people in Tripoli if they're obviously on FB, Twitter >
ChangeInLibya Halwasa Guy
Now I know why Gaddafi put internet back online.. he's arresting people in Tripoli if they're obviously on FB, Twitter etc.. USE "TOR"
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:20 PM
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31. KICK
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:26 PM
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12. MEDIA: Stop broadcasting Gaddafi and his sons. already established that they are lunatics
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
MEDIA: Stop broadcasting/interviewing Gaddafi and his sons. It's already establish that they are lunatics. #libya #gaddaficrimes #feb17
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:27 PM
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13. attack on Al zawyia City: 5 cars were burned and get 15 of them and killed 25 people
libyafreedomnew Libyanews
attack on Al zawyia City: 5 cars were burned and get 15 of them and killed 25 people , # Libya .. # Gaddafi
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:28 PM
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14. BBC: Cameron: UK working on 'no fly zone' plan for #Libya, says "murderous regime" must end.
SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
BBC: Cameron: UK working on 'no fly zone' plan for #Libya, says "murderous regime" must end.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:29 PM
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15. Twitter is freaking out today... slow updates, gets stuck reloading, follow buttons don't show>>
ChangeInLibya Halwasa Guy
Twitter is freaking out today... slow updates, gets stuck reloading, follow buttons don't show, can't see some tweets.. ugh @Support
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I agree. ugh
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:30 PM
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16. the town of #Misurata and airport in the hands of the revolutionaries after battles with #G
libyafreedomnew Libyanews
witness to #Reuters : the town of #Misurata and airport in the hands of the revolutionaries after battles with the army loyal to #Gaddafi
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:35 PM
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20. In al-Zawiya the protestors beat back an attack from #Gaddafi son Khamis's army.

ArabicDemocrati Arabic Democracy
In al-Zawiya the protestors beat back an attack from #Gaddafi son Khamis's army. #Libya
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:52 PM
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28.  captured men not killed, young Libyan boys, plan is to reunite them with their families
libyanexpat Ahmed
by MushuThaLohari
Re Zawiya, captured men not killed, young Libyan boys, plan is to reunite them with their families inshallah #Libya
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:22 PM
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32. LIBYA HURRA -- and LOVE to the Libyans -- !!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:36 PM
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21. at a restaurant in #Tripoli to journalists, Gaddafi said that nothing happened in #Tripoli yet
ArabicDemocrati Arabic Democracy
#Gaddafi said tha nothing happen in #Tripoli yet. #Gaddafi told this at a restaurant in #Tripoli to journalists. #Libya
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:42 PM
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23. K&R
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:46 PM
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24. #G has sent a request for mercs from Niger across the Sahara 2 enter Ubari >>
libyafreedomnew Libyanews
#Gaddafi has sent a request for mercenaries from the #Niger across the Sahara to enter the city Ubari are then flown to #Tripoli and #Sirte
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:12 PM
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42. Wrong place
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 04:14 PM by pinboy3niner
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:50 PM
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26. # Pakistan: Massive anti-US rally held in Pakistan
khawlahforpal2 khawlahforpal2
Massive anti-US rally held in Pakistan http://bit.ly/fJog8p #pakistsan #US
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Massive anti-US rally held in Pakistan

PressTV - Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:0PM


Political activists have recently held several anti-US rallies across Pakistan.
More people in Pakistan are joining protests against a CIA contractor charged with the murder of two Pakistanis in the eastern city of Lahore in January

University students, human rights and political activists as well as lawyers have called for punishing Raymond Davis.

...

Washington says Davis has diplomatic immunity and has stepped up pressure on Islamabad to free him.

...

Reports say the CIA is mulling over the targeting of Pakistani diplomats and intelligence agents across the world in an effort to pressure Islamabad to release Davis.

Hundreds of people also staged an anti-American rally outside the US Consulate in Lahore on Sunday. Protesters demanded the capital punishment for Davis.

http://arabrevolt.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/massive-anti-us-rally-held-in-pakistan/
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:23 PM
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33. Kick --
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 02:18 PM
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30. West moves to help Libya uprising, Gadhafi digs in
EXCERPT --

In Washington, Defense Department spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said the naval and air forces were deployed to have flexibility as Pentagon planners worked on contingency plans, but did not elaborate. The U.S. has a regular military presence in the Mediterranean Sea.

The European Union slapped an arms embargo, visa ban and other sanctions on Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's regime, as British Prime Minister David Cameron told British lawmakers Monday he is working with allies on a plan to establish a military no-fly zone over Libya, since "we do not in any way rule out the use of military assets" to deal with Gadhafi's embattled regime.

In the most direct U.S. demand for Gadhafi to step down, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the Libyan leader must leave power "now, without further violence or delay."



ttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/af_libya
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:01 PM
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34. Warning: #Gaddafi' today arresting anyone in Tripoli who appeared in Youtube videos, went on media
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Warning: #Gaddafi' today arresting anyone in Tripoli who appeared in Youtube videos, went on news media, or tweeted. Extreme caution please.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:29 PM
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35. U.N. official: Medical situation improving in east of Libya
From Al Jazeera English (AJE) Live Blog - Libya Feb 28:

(All times are local in Libya GMT+2) < (USA EST +7, PST +10) >

8:47pm Valerie Amos, a UN humanitarian affairs official, tells Al Jazeera that while the medical aid situation is beginning to normalise in the east of Libya, the UN's major concern remains the country's west, where aid agencies have so far had limited access.

She said that 100,000 people have so far fled across Libya's land borders with Egypt and Tunisia, and that more people are expected to leave the country in the coming days.

In Benghazi, she said the World Health Organisation, the ICRC and Medicins sans Frontieres aid workers said there was some shortage of medical supplies, but that things were "beginning to return to normal".

She said the UN's major concern was getting humanitarian aid to people in the west.

"We're seeing some horrific pictures of what is happening, and we really want to be able to go in to help people in their time of need."

PJ Crowley, the US state department's spokesman, meanwhile, has confirmed that two USAID humanitarian teams have been deployed to Libya's borders with Tunisia and Egypt. The aid agency has also set aside $10 million to support the Libyan Red Crescent Society and other aid agencies.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-feb-28

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:05 PM
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39. A cruel attack on his own people by Gaddafi -- the world should see these wounds -- murders ....
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:44 PM
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36. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the updates, Catherina.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 03:46 PM
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37. k&r nt
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:04 PM
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38. U.S. State Dep't. spokesman: Gaddafi "should get out of his tent... "
From AJE Live Blog - Libya Feb 28:

(All times are local in Libya GMT+2) < (USA EST +7, PST +10) >

10:41pm In response to Gaddafi's interview with ABC's Christiane Amanpour, in which he claims that Libyans are not protesting against him, and that those out on the streets are on "hallucinogenic drugs", PJ Crowley, the US state department's spokesman says:

"He should get out of his tent and see what is really happening in his country."

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-feb-28

Amanpour story on her interview with Gaddafi here:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/christiane-amanpour-interviews-libyas-moammar-gadhafi/story?id=13019942&page=1
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:09 PM
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40. Guess you have to be delusional to be such a monster? And he is both--!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:10 PM
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41. Catherina -- How about skipping Day 13 and going to Day 15 ... ???
Beware the Idea of March!
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:16 PM
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43. Peace Institute suspects Gaddafi got arms for crackdown from Belarus
From AJE Live Blog - Libya Feb 28:

(All times are local in Libya GMT+2) < (USA EST +7, PST +10) >

10:51pm The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) says that it suspects that Libya received a shipment of military equipment from Belarus as the government began a violent crackdown on protesters.

SIPRI says an Ilyushin-76 aircraft left a military base near the Belarusian city of Baranovichi and landed at the Libyan airport of Sebha in mid-February.

"The aircraft came from a dedicated military base that only handles stockpiled weaponry and military equipment," Hugh Griffiths, an arms trafficking expert at SIPRI, said.

He added that the Sebha airport where the plane landed was a key military logistics base in Libya's south.

Griffiths said a Libyan government plane has made two trips to Belarus in the past week, although it is unclear who or what cargo was on board.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-feb-28

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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:05 PM
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45. Sanctions against Belarus is fine by me nt
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 04:56 PM
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44. Militia harrassing doctors, taking bodies from Tripoli hospitals
From AJE Live Blog - Libya Feb 28:

(All times are local in Libya GMT+2) < (USA EST +7, PST +10) >

11:12pm According to an eyewitness account from a doctor in Tripoli, pro-Gaddafi militia members are acting as security guards at the capital's hospitals, but, rather than protecting doctors, they are harrassing them, and have been "taking away" the bodies of those killed in violence, while also forbidding doctors from taking pictures of their wounds.

Alia (not her real name), a doctor in the capital, said a patient was brought into her hospital yesterday with a gunshot wound to his chest. He expired after ten minutes, and his body was taken away by armed men wearing the characteristic green armband of pro-Gaddafi supporters.

"When they die, they don't let people come near them, they don't want people taking pictures/videos," Alia said.

The pro-Gaddafi militiamen also "come in with the patient into the resuscitation room, uncomfortable for doctors to work".

They arrest any doctors found trying to take pictures of the dead or wounded, though they do not stop them from treating patients.

Alia also alleged that the militiamen give 500 Libyan dinars to anyone who "snitches" on others, and said she was told on by a nurse recently. This prompted a man with a wearing a "green flag" to come into the room "with a firearm in his hand", wanting to confiscate her and another doctor's phones.

The two were only saved because the administrative staff of the hospital stood by them and insisted that there was nothing on the phones.

Alia also complained about doctors being too afraid to come to work. She mentioned at least four more casualties coming in on the night that the dead patient's body was taken away.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-feb-28

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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:08 PM
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46. the horror... ....
there have been doctors taking pictures of the dead and wounded all along, I'm sure the regime has taken them...never to be seen again

they also take the wounded out of the hospital, never to be seen again.

trying to cover up their war crimes and atrocities.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:28 PM
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47. Gaddafi desperate to hide his murders - while at the same time denying them!!
War Crimes will be impossible to hide in the end --
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:30 PM
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48. LIBYA HURRA -- !!
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:33 PM
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49. NYT: Libya Wages Counterattack Against Rebels on 3 Fronts
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:38 PM
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50. Fuck. Stupid Sirte was the problem all this time imo.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 05:42 PM
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51. BTW, can we all agree a no fly zone is starting to become necessary?
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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:07 PM
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52. If the western powers wants to restore some credibility..
They should start by bombing the airfield at Sahba, which is a rallying point for mercenaries. Just do a surgical strike there, and bomb the guys palace, kill him and step away saying "It's now up to the Libyan people to choose what kind of government they want".

Unfortunately, i seriously doubt that Europe and the US seriously wants free and fair elections, and they don't give a damn about their credibility.

They certainly don't want it in Egypt, which is now clamping down on peoples freedom again. While David Cameron visits the generals, escorted by their entire military-industrial complex for a massive bumlicking session.

It's disgusting.


Approximately 360 million people live in the Arab world, and most of them are supressed and enslaved by corrupt regimes funded by western money, to "ensure stability in the region", which actually means keeping 8 million Israelis "safe" by supporting their slow genocide of the Palestinian people, and robbing the people's oil resources.

I wonder why some historians seem to think that the imperial era is over.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:13 PM
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54. I dunno about that, the desert has a lot of landing spots.
You can literally make a landing pad with a bulldozer or hell a truck and a large rake on the back. Theoretically that will only be a temporary setback.

And if the rumors are true that Gaddafi has taken hundreds of students hostage, bombing the palace may be a terrible move, if it kills all of them.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:37 PM
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56. yes I have read he is taking students as human shields
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:12 PM
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53. Anti-Qaddafi general reveals plan to take control of west:

bencnn benwedeman
Anti-Qaddafi general reveals plan to take control of west: "We'll unite the people, form a combat unit and liberate it, God willing." #Libya
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:13 PM
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55. Good luck.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 06:59 PM
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57. Witness: Artillery shelling Misurata NOW..."we are the defending righteous and freedom"
From AJE Live Blog - Libya March 1:

(All times are local in Libya GMT+2) < (USA EST +7, PST +10) >

1:40am Abdullah, a witness speaking to Al Jazeera from Misurata, about 200km east of Tripoli, says:

There’s now artillery shelling on the suburbs of Misurata and on the Air force college, south west of Misurata. There are also helicopters trying to bomb the local broadcast.

They are also using heavy weapons against the protestors
... also last night helicopters dropped leaflets and threats from the regime.

A plane fell in the sea and we arrested five of its crew ... we have weapons trying to use to defend ourselves but it is normal weapons that cannot be compared to the planes or tanks or armored vehicles or the heavy weapons they use to bomb us ... we are the defending righteous and freedom ... we want him to leave.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-1

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:32 PM
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58. K/R -- They need a "no fly zone" -- Too many martyrs already -- !!
Edited on Mon Feb-28-11 09:18 PM by defendandprotect
There's no way that Gaddafi could continue in power after this --

he's going one way or the other --

Gaddafi is a monster and can still be destructively evil against his own people.

My fantasy would be one of these pilots turning around and bombing him --

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:45 PM
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60. One can only hope that happens (pilot defection + bombing).
He would be seen as a hero and the dead students would be seen as martyrs.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 08:43 PM
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59. ***NEW THREAD ~ Day 12 (or 14*), Part 7 HERE:
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