Will workers lose again? Class warfare and unintended consequences! Given voter polarization

[jody]

over god, gays, guns, abortion, and now minority power to public employees do we not face class warfare between public employees and their unions versus non-union private sector employees and their power at the ballot box.?

WI has about 175k (47%) union members of 376k workers in government

WI has over 1.9 million (92%) non-union members of over 2.1 million workers in private sector jobs.

I’m a have-not and ask, will the current brouhaha in WI that pits 1.9+ million non-union members from the private sector against 175k union members in public jobs polarize voters to the detriment of all workers?

Will the result be another victory for corporatist who finance candidates from both parties and control presidents like puppets?

Sadly I fear the WI public union against private non-union fight only strengthens the power of corporatist.

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[leftstreet]

2. It takes massive propaganda to continually pit worker against worker

And it's generally most effective when a certain percentage aren't hungry or homeless.

The issue the Ruling Class appears uncertain of lately is - 'will this propaganda still work?'

Will unemployed and underemployed workers suddenly support union workers? Will union workers support non-unionized workers? Are things getting bad enough, for enough people, are common interests becoming apparent enough that solidarity may be on the horizon?

:shrug:

Our Overlords have been so brazen in fleecing our pockets since the fall of Communism and the death of any Left in the US - it's hard to say how confident they're feeling

[jody]

3. Plausible but I don't see corporatist losing in WI For workers a draw is the best we can expect and

then preparation begins for the next battle between We the People and corporatist.

[OHdem10]

4. They have been pitting worker against worker. Playing Non-union

Workers against Union Workers. Here is their refrain
staring with Gov. Christy. "Implying the Union have these
grand and cushy Benefit packages, the rest of the Workers
(Non-Union) are not going to pay for them." Some version
of this theme has been going 24/7 for at least a week.

[jody]

5. That's my opinion also. Look at once prosperous Detroit depending on auto unions, today a decaying

waste land and Southern states with their right to work laws attracting foreign auto manufacturers and US manufacturers who fled Detroit.

[leftstreet]

6. True. They've been doing it since the dawn of time

seems like, anyway

Sadly they probably know it'll still work

:-(

[TheKentuckian]

7. The propaganda machine and the seemingly built in desire of many to

bring people down to their level rather than seeking to build themselves up or worse wanting to knock others down because they are within shouting distance of their station in life and feel they "work much harder" or "have so much more responsibility" or "have expertise".

It galls many so called professionals when a factory worker, mechanic, plumber, or whatever "blue collar" folks make a "middle class" living doing what they feel is child's play or whatever but never seek out these kind of easy lives, making money for nothing.

There is no solidarity among all of us masses of poor and working folks because we damn near act like drowning people trying to reach the surface by climbing up the next person's back at all times.
I know people, liberal people even that believe that eight bucks an hour is about what a factory worker should earn because they make 45-55-65 grand and feel that is the multiple their jobs should pay over a janitor or someone on an assembly line.

They generally figure no way in hell they can make any more in the same position so consequentially most folks should effectively live in poverty.
Poverty is not their intent for all these people but the desire to identify with the wealthy and to differentiate themselves from the "unwashed" types while accepting wage stagnation and destruction leads to effective support of policies that perpetuate this dynamic that makes more and more scrap over an ever shrinking sliver of pie and ever growing resentment and competition among working and poor folks.

If we as a people don't both get out of this mentality of accepting the top 20% get most of the resources and the rest of us go at each others throats to gnaw on a few splinters of dry clean bone and in some cases get over some bad blood from past abandonment and feuds then we will be fucked.

[jody]

8. Not unexpected, but still I'm distressed that so few DUers bothered to comment about the issue I

raise in the OP.

You say "There is no solidarity among all of us masses of poor and working folks" and I agree.

Voters allow themselves to be divided and polarized over a 6 or so issues and allow corporatist to buy candidates from both parties that pass laws signed by a puppet president for the corporatist party.

"LORD, how long shall the wicked, how long shall the wicked triumph?" Psalm 94:

I care not ones religion or irreligion, that statement captures my despair and I understand the statement "And it repented the LORD that she had made man on the earth, and it grieved her at her heart."