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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:39 PM
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If other Unions won't show solidarity with the public employees union in Wisconsin
Edited on Thu Feb-17-11 06:40 PM by Bandit
What good is having a Union in the first place. I thought that was a main tenet of Unionization. Solidarity...If the other Unions around the nation allow this Union to be broken without actively aiding them, can they expect their own Union to last much longer..Every Union in America should provide support. If they don't hang together, they will certainly hang separately, figuratively speaking...
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:40 PM
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1. Sympathy strikes are illegal, On the other hand, we're reaching the point where other
unions might not give a shit anymore about stuff like that.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:46 PM
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3. And what Republican controlled legislature passed
that law? I would say it's ignorable because it's another example of the minority controlling the majority by making oppression legal. I think it's time to break the stranglehold of the few over the will of the many by ignoring laws that are neither fair nor respect the rights of the ordinary American.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:47 PM
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5. It's part of the Taft-Hartley act.
And yes, it should be ignored.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:50 PM
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11. The Taft-Hartley Act?
That Act is way overdue a repeal.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:51 PM
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12. Indeed.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:18 PM
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23. Upheld by the SCOTUS

It also has one sentence that made right to work a reality.

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:42 PM
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2. I think we should give those other unions a chance Saturday
Let's remember the climate. Skipping a day of work will get your ass fired. Let's see what happens when the other unions' members are free to respond.

If the WI dems don't cave tomorrow, Saturday in Madison could be MASSIVE!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:47 PM
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4. Unions are about protecting the fiefdoms the guys at the top rule over >
just like any other form of politics.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:49 PM
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7. You know, when you talk out of your ass,
it stinks.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:49 PM
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8. Grow up. And I was in a union, long ago. And both my parents.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:51 PM
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13. So?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:09 PM
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21. "I'm not a homophobe. I totally have gay friends!"
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:49 AM
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34. Here's perfect example
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:33 PM
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26. And you have friends who sent their kids to public school, I bet.
Whatta gal!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:43 AM
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33. I went to public school and both my parents were teachers but see reality
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 08:50 AM by KittyWampus
not a liberally sugar-coated version.

Here, I re-posted a news article from the other day just foryou:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x446292
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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:50 PM
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10. nice anti-union bullshit there, pal
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:50 AM
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35. Here's a perfect example proving my point:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:56 PM
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16. FALSE
what a crock of shit

piss off
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 07:00 PM
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17. LMFAO.
Why am I not surprised?
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 07:35 PM
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20. I really need to take issue with your comment.
My colleagues and I get up every day and fight for the other 87% of Americans who are NOT unionized and have no voice in Washington. I'm not even sure the average American worker even knows he's got a "lobbyist" in DC, thanks to the unions. And let me tell you, when you walk in the door of a Rep or Senator and see a bunch of corporate suits (and you can pick them out of a crowd. We wear suits too, but they all have that uptight, middle-aged white man look) pass you on the way out, well, to compare us to them as just another "special interest" is just absurd. Every "special interest" we lobby for is for the benefit of all workers. Health care reform, Free Trade Agreements, Social Security, Prevailing Wage, Fair Labor Standards, OSHA/MSHA reform, Currency Manipulation, the Jones Act, Climate Change, and that was all last year!! = all to make sure Americans don't get screwed over. That's the "fiefdom" we're trying to protect.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:34 PM
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27. Amen--and thanks. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:51 AM
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36. Here's a perfect example proving my point:
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:19 PM
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24. Free speech is about tolerating morons.
Maybe you belong here: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/*/index
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:35 PM
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29. Yeah, it's just like any other form of politics
Sometimes the people at the top are responsive leaders who serve their people. Other times they're worthless self-serving dicks. But unions are pretty much the only institutions that act to protect the interests of the working class in this country. If you have any better ideas on how to perform this task, you'd have a pretty receptive audience at DU.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:52 AM
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37. So the building unions in NYC are looking out for whom?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 12:52 AM
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31. Those "guys at the top" are closer to the bottom than those other guys, though
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:49 PM
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6. They are.
http://www.alternet.org/news/149942/is_wisconsin_our_egypt_15,000_protest_off-the-wall_right-wing_governor's_policies
'I've never seen anything like it... there were Steelworkers, Teamsters, Pipefitters, building trades unions and more -- unions I've never seen at a rally in 10 years.'

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/02/17/labor-unions-cheer-on-wis-protesters/
Teamsters General President Jim Hoffa, who tends keeps a low profile, said in a 400-word statement that he found the protests “inspiring.”

“It’s inspiring to see middle-class workers coming together to say they’ve had enough of this one-sided class war,” Mr. Hoffa said, calling Mr. Walker’s proposal a “vindictive attack on people he views as his political enemies.”

Mr. Hoffa also warned of major jobs losses, referring to a study by the Institute for Wisconsin’s Future that showed the Walker budget proposal leading to a loss of $1.1 billion in economic activity for the state along with 9,000 private sector jobs.

Today’s Wisconsin protests from public-employee union members came as Democratic state lawmakers were no-shows for a vote on the budget proposal. By fleeing the capital, the Democrats halted a vote on the bill, which would strip Wisconsin public employees of most collective-bargaining rights.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:50 PM
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9. Didn't you know? We public employees are lazy, shiftless and greedy and take more than we produce.
Edited on Thu Feb-17-11 06:51 PM by arbusto_baboso
What's more, the private sector can do ALL our jobs more cheaply and efficiently. I know that because everyone in the media and quite a few assholes here on DU say so.

Of course, never mind that fact that of all the people in my college graduating class, I was making far less than others who had private sector jobs. Of course, many of them no longer HAVE jobs, but that was no doing of mine...
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:53 PM
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14. What makes you think that they aren't?
I saw IBEW and Teamster banners among the crowds at the demonstrations yesterday. Today a group of machinists marching under and IAM banner was featured prominently in news coverage.

I know retirees that are travelling from Washington and Oregon to support the WI public employees and most of them are either reetired Teamsters or retirees from the building trades.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 06:56 PM
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15. We are... STRIKE FUND, see my sig
and if you think that is not important...
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 07:03 PM
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18. Chicago firefighters marched with them today.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 07:24 PM
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19. I live in a right to work state. These idiots hate unions. I have never belonged to a union but if
it weren't for the unions we wouldn't have the safety in the work places, minimum wages, health care, holidays and vacations. Yes it was these people that got it for everyone. You bunc of bastards to hate unions should think again about it.
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:14 PM
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22. IBEW here
I am going tomorrow.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:35 PM
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28. Love and support from Arizona! Solidarity! nt
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:23 PM
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25. They are.
What do you want? Union people are not shy of action, nor are we unrehearsed in the strike or the protest. They know how it is done.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 09:01 PM
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30. The folks in Poland made it all work with this single word:




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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 12:54 AM
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32. San Diego is having a rally tomorrow
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 12:55 AM by nadinbrzezinski
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