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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:24 PM
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PA Liquor Control Board to teens: Rape is your fault, and your friends’ fault!
This is the worst campaign against teen drinking I ever saw! This thing blames the victims!!!! see http://feministing.com/2011/12/07/pa-liquor-control-board-to-teens-rape-is-your-fault-and-your-friends-fault/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter to see what I am talking about!

I know I am e-mailing a complaint!
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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:54 PM
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1. KICK
These guys are making me see red!:grr: :mad:
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:55 PM
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2. Hey, rapist can't help it if girls get drunk, right? Or travel alone....
... or all the other asshat reasons someone is vulnerable.


The message of the ad seems to be that anyone vulnerable is fair game. Wrong.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:02 PM
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4. You know that not every guy is a rapist right? The difference is that rapists believe that every
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 01:02 PM by Vincardog
guy is a rapist. So does the creators of this ad. Sad comment on the state of PA.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:18 PM
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17. I have no idea what rapists think, but agree the ad is disgusting....
... I'm kinda doubtful they think all men are rapists. If that were true, it seems they would be more open about it and I've never heard anyone admit to being a rapist.


I suspect a lot of them know it's wrong and that most men are not rapists, but again, I don't know what they think.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:41 PM
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22. They will admit it if you don't call it rape.
http://jezebel.com/5404064/rapists-admit-repeated-crimes--as-long-as-you-dont-call-it-rape

I think many rapists don't consider themselves rapists. And I wouldn't be surprised if they thought this was normal behavior that most if not all men engage in.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:56 PM
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3. That is seriously fucked up
I don't even know what to say... Fucked up.
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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:04 PM
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5. My thoughts exactly!
Thank You!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:05 PM
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6. "This isn't Anne's fault. The man raping her is a pig and a criminal."
But Anne was too drunk to make clear decisions and went home with him anyway. Now, half passed out, she's being forced to have sex, and she's powerless to stop it."


I don't think this is blaming the victim. i think it's warning kids that there are people out there who aren't nice.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:05 PM
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7. Oh my god.
:puke:
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:09 PM
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8. Not only does it blame the victim, it makes a rape victim look really, really sexy. It also tells
rapists that if she's drunk, it's hard to prove rape. It's a total mistake all the way around.
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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:10 PM
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10. Thank You!
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:09 PM
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9. Assholes!!!
:grr:
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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:12 PM
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11. Thank You!
That is some of the words I was thinking!:mad:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:15 PM
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12. It goes further than that, it blames the victim's friends, too.
"Calling the shots starts with you. What if you didn’t watch out for your friends during a night of drinking?"

It's disgusting, but hardly surprising. This is the culture we all live in. Well, it's possible that it's not this way in one of the Scandinavian countries. They're much more progressive on women's issues.
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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:36 PM
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13. I feel sorry for the victims that have seen this Ad!
Bad enough that this has happened to them, now there is an Ad campaign telling them it's there fault! And how about the friends that was with a victim? Don't you think they feel bad enough as well?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:46 PM
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15. I haven't seen the picture, only read the text.
Reading the descriptions others have posted about the picture make me think even less of the people who came up with this ad.
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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:54 PM
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16. It turned my stomach!
:puke:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:35 PM
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19. My first thought was that I was surprised that anyone
could think using a graphic like the one described for this ad was a good idea.

I guess that shows how un-cynical I really am, because it isn't really surprising at all.
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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:35 PM
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18. I could post it but it is just to sick to me.
n/a
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:36 PM
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20. Maybe you could post a link to it...
for anyone curious about just how bad this ad really is.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:36 PM
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14. did Jerry Sandusky write that ad?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:41 PM
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21. Looks like they took the rape one off their facebook fan page. (Pic posted below)
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 02:42 PM by justiceischeap
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Lady Freedom Returns Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 05:43 PM
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23. See what I mean?
:puke:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 05:44 PM
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24. k&r n/t
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