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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:17 PM
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Does it almost seem like President Obama is picking his own candidate to run against?
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 12:20 PM by NNN0LHI
You know damn well he wants Romney. Obama's campaign has been planning on running against him for 4 years. Do you think they have a pretty thick file on Romney by now? And Romney is going to lose in a landslide when this is all over with.

He has a glass jaw too. Romney is a fumble fuck who gets flustered real easy. One or two debates with Obama and he will be flat on his back on the canvas seeing stars.

Don
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:19 PM
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1. Well, I think they believe that Romney was inevitable, but I honestly don't think they would cry
into their beer if it turns out to be the Grinch.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:20 PM
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2. maybe he wants Romney beat up or knocked down early
seems to me, the rest of the pack are much more vulnerable than Mitt the Deceiver (at least at this point)
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:23 PM
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3. Whatever you do, PLEASE don't throw me in the briar patch!!!
Whatever you do, Mitt, PLEASE don't run for president!!!

Okay, I can see a similarity there.

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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:28 PM
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4. Almost, but...
I think it is more that he's a good student of the other side. It's not like any of these people are new on the scene. They have all been around for eons, regardless of how much they sell themselves as "outsiders". They all have track records, and it's not that difficult to predict who is going to come out of this on top.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:28 PM
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5. I think they did an analysis of likelihood. Romney has the money and
he also has the dogged determination, he has tried to run before and didn't throw in the towel when he should have...he keeps going to the point where he can't even see when he's just not cutting it.

These things are often "last man standing" exercises. The one with the cash is Romney, the one with the "head down, keep plowing" attitude is Romney. That's what makes him a likely first place finisher, I think.

The only thing that could screw him up is the more appealing Mormon, Huntsman--he's just sitting off to the side, pacing himself, and working hard on Not Fucking Up.

He may pull a "fresh face" routine when the public has had enough of the standard, spitting, hand waving GOP fare.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:29 PM
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6. true, he has conserved his cash and he will be going on the offensive I'm sure soon
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 12:53 PM
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7. I have faith
That they are intelligent enough to know that a Game Change can happen at ANY time. We as Dems were told (I was personally by several Republicons) that Hillary Clinton would be the Candidate and they would beat her.

I'd say Buddy Roemer is the greatest threat - you never know . . . he could from out of nowhere, get on a debate - and it would most likely be a landslide. I think even those Ron Paul supporters might get onboard with him.


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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 01:18 PM
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8. like maybe Obama 2008? nt
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roman7 Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 02:11 PM
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9. ya obama has big pull in the gop
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AC_Mem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 02:54 PM
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10. I can't wait to see our President
debate Romney (who I think the GOP will hold their nose and nominate). These republican "debates" are such a friggin joke - I want to see serious discussion and debate and nobody does it better today than President Obama.

Can't wait!!
Annette
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 02:56 PM
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11. Wants Romney?
Not if there is an easier pickins out there......like Newt.

Newtie can't get around his personal baggage.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:10 PM
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13. A known commodity is always best in these kinds of situations
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 03:47 PM by NNN0LHI
After four years they have stuff on Romney that will make Cain look good when they get done with him. They have researched this guy like a new strain of flu. They know stuff about Romney that Romney doesn't know about himself yet.

Don't want any surprises with so much at stake.

Don
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:16 PM
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15. But Romney is still the only one electable in a general election.....
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 03:17 PM by ProudToBeBlueInRhody
....outside of Huntsman, who the nutbags think is "more liberal than Romney".

I mean, that's why I laugh that the "Democrat media" killed Herman Cain. I'd love to see a 400+ electoral vote, 65% popular vote win by a Democrat in my lifetime. Why would they have stalled that possibility this early?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 02:58 PM
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12. ''flat on his back on the canvas seeing stars. ''
I found that extremely funny.

:rofl:

!

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:11 PM
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14. No (nt)
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:28 PM
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16. Obviously the President knows he could very well lose to Romney so I'm sure he would prefer Newt who
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 03:34 PM by Douglas Carpenter
is considerably less electable. No incumbent president has won reelection with unemployment at current levels in 75 years. This is why the Obama campaign is taking precautionary measures by assuming the worse case scenario and preparing for the likely but unfortunate possibility of a Romney nomination. However, if pitted against an unlikeable extremist like Newt Gingrich - they would have considerably less to worry about. Still, even if Romney becomes the nominee - the President does have a reasonable chance to overcome historic precedent and win anyway. Though Romney - is not repulsive and cannot be easily labeled an extremist like Mr. Gingrich he is not particularly endearing either and his record of changing positions as well as his Mormonism and his close ties to the financial industry might make Mr. Romney vulnerable to a defeat in a general election even a historically unprecedented defeat given the state of the economy. If Gingrich is the nominee - I do think we could likely see a Democratic landslide - If Romney is the nominee I would say that Mr. Obama would probably still have a slight advantage - but only slight. Currently, Intrade is speculating at 50.8% that the winner of the 2012 election will be the Democratic nominee with a 46.6% possibility that the Republican nominee will win.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:41 PM
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17. Reagan won re-election by 18 points
Which indicates he would have still won re-election with a much higher unemployment rate. So the suggestion that he would not have been re-elected with a higher unemployment rate doesn't really hold water.

Don
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:59 PM
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21. the unemployment rate in Oct 84 was 7.4% in Oct 83 it was 8.8%
link:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt


polling indicates that had the election been held in 1983 when unemployment was around 9% and more - Mondale or Glen would have won.

http://www.nytimes.com/1983/03/24/us/gallup-gives-edge-to-mondale-glenn.html

No President has won reelection with unemployment in the 9% vicinity since Roosevelt in 1936
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:31 PM
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27. Study how Romney made his fortune.
He did it by shutting down companies and firing people.

I would say that is not very appealing to many voters.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:42 PM
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18. So I have this straight. He can't control Congress but can "pick" his foe.
He uses his super powers very selectively I guess.

Oh, wait, this may be a chess move, then it would be strategy to be a victory later.

Oh, wait again, it's he can't get anything done because he does not want to get involved.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:35 PM
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28. What part of "almost seem" did you miss, SnarkyKitten?
:hi:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:46 PM
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19. Disagree.
I think, like the lunatic right, Obama wants "anybody but Romney." The reasoning is totally different of course. Romney is the most electable in a general, BECAUSE, he is a known moderate, which the rightwingnuts despise. Obama would cosider himself blessed if Newt is the nuts nominee.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:51 PM
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20. The rightwingnuts who despise Romney will not waste their gas to go out and vote for him
That could be a problem for Romney.

Don
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:02 PM
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22. It will be. But Indys would prefer him to the extreme nutcases.
Just mho.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:22 PM
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23. When the Obama campaign gets done with Romney he will be exposed as the extreme nutcase he is
That will really help out with the indys.

And Obama will have the money to shed light on that side of Romney which is a huge plus.

Don
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:57 PM
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24. Yes, I believe Obama will glide to re-election.
The competition is virtually non-existant.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:04 PM
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25. Of course: once again, Obama is a super-genius literal god; he's playing chess and we're just dolts
Build a fucking statue of him as a golden calf and get it the hell over with.

Some of us are aweless in face of this grandeur.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:36 PM
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26. also, he makes the sun rise and set the way he wants, and controls the weather!
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