What is it with the new meme that the Liberals are separate from the 99%. Sounds like

[applegrove]

sock puppetry to me. I'm a liberal and I support the OWS.

Added:I am sure the powers that be in the gop would love liberals to be separated out from OWS. That would put OWS in position to become a third party. And what would the 1% and the GOP want more than for the vote on the left to be split....as it is in Canada where the conservatives always win despite not having close to 50% of the popularity.

Added" a few weeks ago it came out that 40+% liked OWS. 25% hated it. And 30% were undecided. I guess this is the GOP gunning for that 30% before they commit.

[tsuki]

1. The trolls and dime-a-dancers are getting as much overtime on OWS

as the NYPD. The 1% are not happy.

[Zorra]

4. They certainly are. nt

[FarLeftFist]

2. Bullshit. Real OWS protestors don't care about your political affiliation

If you're down for the cause you're their brother or sister.

[gateley]

3. Ditto. nt

[ellisonz]

5. I'm a Howard Dean Democrat.

:shrug:

[vcc]

6. it also has historical overtones that disturb me...

...as typically "liberals" (not neo-liberals) would be the kind of critical-thinking, usually intellectual types of certain minority racial, ethnic and lifestyle-choice groups that have been discriminated against and murdered the most throughout European and American history. That is cause for serious concern. Also, it's more than a little arrogant and a slap in the face to mock and marginalize a group of people who've been fighting for social justice, civil rights and economic parity since before many of this more alienating sub-group of OWS were even born. To be told to "wake up!!!" and to be called "sheeple" by these folks because THEY suddenly realized that the country had some issues is, well, pretty taxing on the patience level. And yes, you are absolutely right that it works out great for the G.O.P. to encourage this weird splitting.

[sabrina 1]

11. What are you talking about? Your comment makes no sense.

Are you talking about the Teaparty? You sure are not describing OWS. You seem to know nothing about this movement, but have a lot to say about it most of which is totally unrelated to what it is about.

For one thing, it is NON partisan, and for good reason. But any elected official who shares the goals of this movement, is more than welcome to join.

There is nothing disturbing about this movement, unless you are a supporter of the failed status quo. What is disturbing is to see people attempt to tie this movement to the failed system that made it necessary in the first place. No one cares anymore about individual politicians, unless they are working for the people. The country, the world has moved beyond that old way of thinking as it has completely failed a majority of the people on this planet. A new way is necessary and if politicians want to be a part of it, the first thing they need to do is understand it. Otherwise the world is going to 'move forward' without them.

And for the record, these people did NOT suddenly wake up. They have been awake for a long time, waiting for their party to start working for the people. Sadly, that has not happened, so now the people are working on finding a way to put the PEOPLE back in control of this country. Funny how some people can no longer think outside of the two boxes, 'left/right' they have been forced into. But fortunately, a majority of the people can.

[tsuki]

14. That's a dime-a-dancer trying to sound "reasonable". nt

[Warpy]

7. Yeah, they set some adman loose in the crowd to run it up a flagpole

and see if anybody saluted it. He probably got somebody who thought he was "hawt" to repeat it for him.

[Kalidurga]

10. Liberals are definitely not separated from the 99%, but...

when I go to talk to the Occupy MN people who also talk to OWS people occasionally, we don't talk about political parties and we don't even talk a lot of politics in a specific way except where they relate to the Occupy movement. We are very aware of what party is socially repressive and which party champions social causes. However, some are libertarians, I have met an odd conservative or two (very odd if you ask me), but most are liberal leaning. I don't know how they plan to vote or even if they plan to vote. What I do know is I have heard zero talk of starting a 3rd party a few have said they may vote for the Green Party or another smaller party, but most are at the very least going to vote Democrat just so the do not give a vote to Republicans.

[Warpy]

13. That's what I got out of talking with some of them online

They're actually pretty naive, politically speaking. However, they're astute enough to know they've gotten screwed to the wall and, unlike the teabaggers, they've got a damned good idea who did and is still doing the screwing and what to do about it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. It is not a DLC meme

actually it is about the DLC...

I got it since I read the whole thread... glad to translate it.

That is who that OP means...

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Oh by the way ACTUAL OWS...

anecdotally one OP here went into how a SINGLE OWSer hated liberals, for other reasons than the usual, how ineffective they have been.

OWSers don't care, nor does a single OWSers means a spokesperson.

[applegrove]

12. I counted two threads where the liberals were being separated from the OWS. Which is outragious.

Sometimes you have to stop a meme before it gets traction.

[mmonk]

15. It's horse hockey.

Traditional Democratic Party (even including Move On) grass roots organizations have lined up behind the movement. People keep redefining words to fit their agendas.

[nc4bo]

16. The ole divide and conquer routine.

Fascinating how it takes so many different forms.