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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:03 AM
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Party Ends at For-Profit Colleges
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 09:04 AM by woo me with science
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904279004576524660236401644.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Party Ends at For-Profit Schools


By MELISSA KORN

For-profit colleges are facing a tough test: getting new students to enroll.

New-student enrollments have plunged—in some cases by more than 45%—in recent months, reflecting two factors: Companies have pulled back on aggressive recruiting practices amid criticism over their high student-loan default rates. And many would-be students are questioning the potential pay-off for degrees that can cost considerably more than what's available at local community colleges.
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Education stocks dived as reports of dropping enrollments at for-profit schools emerged. Many students are re-considering their options, including attending community colleges, Melissa Korn reports on the Markets Hub.
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Enrollment at for-profit colleges soared during the recession, amid heavy advertising that appealed to suddenly jobless people needing new skills. But while the advertising continues, a number of for-profit schools including Corinthian, Apollo Group Inc. and others have tamped down aggressive recruiting. They've cut back on recruiter bonuses based on factors such as how many students make it past their first term. Apollo, operator of the University of Phoenix chain, has been criticized for targeting injured veterans and homeless adults to fill seats.
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The specter of a hefty debt load dissuaded Jason Tomlinson from enrolling to study business at Berkeley College, a for-profit school with locations in New York and New Jersey. Mr. Tomlinson, now 25, said he would have had to pay more than $20,000 per year, for four years, for that school's bachelor's degree program.
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Earlier this month, the Justice Department and four states sued Education Management Corp., alleging the company's compensation system for its admissions personnel violates the federal Higher Education Act because admissions employees had been paid based on how many students they recruit.

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It looks like some are waking up to the scam of these colleges. They are primarily money-making machines for the private corporations through tuition and for the banks through high-interest debt that most of these students will carry for the rest of their lives.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:14 AM
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1. And to think, education is free in Cuba. Fucking Commies!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:17 AM
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2. You don't even have to be a Communist country
If you have a fully developed national system of vocational and academic post-secondary options and firm admissions standards for them, you can have free tuition, too, as many Western European countries do.

And those for-profit institutions aren't really "colleges." They're vocational schools that teach one how to be a corporate cog.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:20 AM
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3. Yeah but they are all pinkos too. How the hell are you supposed to
exploit an educated populace?
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:25 AM
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4. Their enrollment needs to drop
These "colleges" are nothing but scavengers; convincing vulnerable people that for an extremely high price they can have a wonderful career far better than one obtained through a reasonably priced, accredited community college. Unfortunately the debt they incur is far more than the career can pay off.

I worked at one of these proprietary schools for a short period of time years ago and it quickly became apparent that we were "educating" people to get jobs that paid a little over minimum wage but at a very high price. Sad.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:50 AM
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6. +100. I used to work for one, it was a fucking JOKE.
All they want is the laundered federal financial aid money to pay their ridiculously wealthy and unqualified execs; the 'education' they provide isn't worth a crap.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:44 AM
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5. University of Phoenix - has "teacher" who never went to college herself.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 09:47 AM by Divernan
Saw a facebook listing for a relative of an acquaintance. This woman listed herself as a "teacher" at University of Phoenix. She can't spell basic words, her grammar is largely nonexistent - but she's a "teacher". Her previous employment was as a secretary at her local community college. She does have an extensive vocabulary of obscene phrases, though.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 10:26 AM
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7. I just love those diploma mill TEE-VEE ads....Doctorial Degrees? Really?
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