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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:22 PM Original message |
Doesn't Obama deserve a modicum of praise for the "Arab Spring"? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. I hold the unconventional view that the Arab population just might have agency of their own. (nt) |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
92. As hard as it is to imagine, there are others out here who agree with you. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. ! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. No, he's just to blame for whatever goes wrong there |
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muntrv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. About as much as Reagan deserves for the fall of the Berlin Wall. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. CORRECT |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. My exact same thoughts. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #20 |
76. I think that election Obama made it seem as if it can happen there it |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. OUCH. And spot on. nt |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
74. +1 |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
83. +1 |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 02:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
86. POTUS Obama and the USA are adjusting to new reality in the ME |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. the fall of bush may have something to do with it, but I think the people involved have their own |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Lol! |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. You have got to be kidding. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. To say nothing of the self-immolation in Tunisia that kicked the whole thing off |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. This isn't American exceptionalism. It's industrial strength Obama Derangement Syndrome. n/t |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
58. Now With Lemon Scent! |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. The stupidity of US policy hurts us often, look at israel, and how |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
80. Very true - if nothing else, Obama might take credit for not screwing up the Arab Spring |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is Democratic Underground. Praise for a Democratic President is frowned upon. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. If he earns it, fine. |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. Yep. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. You're joking, right? |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Thank you for saying it! |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. moved - nt |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
10. Absolutely NOT |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Americans deserve HEAPS of praise for electing a man with a strange name. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. Of course he does |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. !! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Whatever |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. yeah right up there with the invasion of granada! |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
62. thank you. |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. Are you serious? |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. Well, he did say this: |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
22. In as much as the bank bailouts led directly to rampant commodities inflation.. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. This is the correct answer. |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. ^ This ^ |
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Red Mountain (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
26. Sure. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
27. The world does not revolve around the USA |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
28. Obama's name encouraged young Arabs? Wow. |
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elias7 (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. Jeez....what venom...Welcome to the hate Obama club |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Your definition of disagree is hate though? |
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elias7 (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Not at all. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Sorry, I think it's ludicrous to say that Obama's name was a catalyst here |
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elias7 (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Thanks for the thoughtful response. Guess I won't try so hard next time... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. . |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
61. That's not hate, that's just the internet |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Oh STFU |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. . |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 07:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
89. It's met with ridicule becuase the OP was ridiculous ..... |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. Ask the people of Bahrain about that! |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
81. Or Egypt. |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
32. he muddled it actually by making it an American action |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. bullshit. |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
35. No. And he cannot take credit for the recovery summer, either. -nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. Hmm not really |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
39. "Americans elected a man wth a strange name" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 04:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. And that name inspired the Arab youth!! |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 07:10 AM Response to Reply #44 |
90. Because the world revolves around the US |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
40. Let's wait and see the harvest. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-21-11 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
41. no, but if you start a thread about Obama starting the wars in Libya and Syria those will get a lot |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Not at all! Obama's name made young Arab men ambitious! |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:19 AM Response to Reply #41 |
54. I wonder when he's going to reach out the Bahrainis..? |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
42. Yeah, and the weather cooled off nicely here. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
43. Would've happened without him |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
45. Yes. We should thank him for getting us into a third simultaneous war. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-22-11 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
49. Shockingly DU says 'no' |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. The OP said that Obama sparked the Arab Spring which started in Dec. 2010. Nothing about Libya. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Deleted message |
Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 04:39 AM Response to Reply #71 |
88. . |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
52. The domino effect of middle east democracy - one of Bush's selling points for the Iraq War. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
53. There have been mistakes, but the end result is much more successful than Iraq/Afghanistan. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
55. There are 2 anti-Obama memes playing out about Libya on DU currently ... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
56. You think the Arab Spring happened in part due to Obama's name? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
57. No |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. So, insurrection against an authoritarian dictator is...? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. ...actually a NATO intervention predicated upon a gang of... |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
60. Perhaps they felt Obama was less likely to kill them all than Bush |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
63. Um, what about the lost wars in Iraq, Afghanistan??? No "Arab Spring" in those countries, I guess |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
64. This has to be one of the dumbest theories I've seen yet. The Arab Spring is because of his NAME???? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #64 |
82. ! |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
66. sounds like we deserve the praise... |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
67. For not completely fucking it up? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-23-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
70. No. I think the Arab people deserve full credit for the arab spring. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
75. you think because the US president's name = "Barack Hussein" Arabs revolted? |
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akbacchus_BC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
77. Seriously, what did Obama have to do with the uprisings in the middle east? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-25-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. His name, apparently |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
78. Absolutely. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 02:07 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Look at some of these response. Some of these folks don't even know what the Arab Spring is |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. It's disturbing. |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
79. Great thread! |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-24-11 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
84. Just wait til you see the Bush Library's special display on how... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-30-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #84 |
94. I can imagine that! |
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