"If FR dies, that’s that." - Jim Robinson

[cali]

freerepublic.com ^ | 1/11/11 | paulycy

Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:28:06 AM by paulycy

FYI -

Here are statements from Jim about the future of FreeRepublic.com for those who missed them. They are quite serious.

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"Well, I can say that there are definitely two things that will never happen. 1) Banner ads. 2) Oracle And a third is a total replacement Don’t have the financial wherewithal."

"To those who wish to leave because of it, see ya."

"If FR dies, that’s that."

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Hey, you want us to get an all new system with all new software and add a few more pricey techs, system programmers and database administrators to keep it all working 100% of the time 24/7/365? Well, start coughing up the big bucks.

It’s going to take tens of thousands of donations and many with at least three zeros each after the comma to accomplish the task. And that would be EVERY month like clock work to make the payroll. Once you take on a big load of expensive overhead, there’s no going back. As it is, we get a couple thousand donations per quarter averaging about $30 bucks each and there’s no guarantees we can cover this quarter’s expenses much less next quarter. We’re on a pay as we go system and we have zero employees.We just ask for enough to pay the bills.

Throwing more money at the problem won’t solve it. was a technical issue and we just had to keep troubleshooting until we found it. And no, we’re not going to invite a bunch of strangers in to get their hands on our secure systems. John has been programming since he was 14 and he’s pushing 40 now. He built these systems and he’s an expert in them.

And no, we are not going to throw out our software and rewrite it and no we’re not going to move on to some other database system. There are no guarantees that any other system can do a better job and not without hiring a staff to build and maintain it and that’s for sure. And we don’t have the financial wherewithal to do any of that anyway. Maybe if we had a couple million bucks at our disposal and a couple years to do it in we could build an iron-clad system. And maybe not.

All I can say is, if someone else can do it better and cheaper, then please step right on up and get ‘er done!! I’ll bow out and retire. Thankyouverymuch.

Hit it boys:

https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/

And no, we have no plans of taking FR commercial. I like it the way it is. Not sure I could handle getting rich.

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- Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2654879/posts

[Orrex]

1. More to the point, how did you do that cool black-to-red trick with your text?

[muriel_volestrangler]

36. It's a 'false anchor'

The original text (use your browser to see the source) reads

"Oracle (a completely new database system.) And a third ..."

but with square brackets instead of round ones. The DU software converts the square brackets to angle ones, and suddenly it's a HTML anchor of the form "<a blah blah blah>" - which are normally used for hyperlinks, though this is missing the 'href=""' part. So browsers take the text following it as a bit of special text, and highlight it as red when you put your pointer over it, and apply it to everything until the next actual 'anchor', which is an actual hyperlink.

[Orrex]

58. I prefer to think of it as some sort of supernatural mumbo jumbo

But thanks for the detailed explanation all the same!

[Maraya1969]

128. Well that clears it up for me.

:hide:

[KittyWampus]

2. what a weird contrast: DU is a cutting edge website with awesome features

FR is an antiquated and unreadable.

Does anyone send JR money for that website ever?

[PBS Poll-435]

5. He asks for about 360K a year from his members.

[freeplessinseattle]

40. holy sheeit. well, he's not got the sharpest members n/t

[Frank Cannon]

41. He sure as hell ain't spending it on his website.

That thing would have been rejected by GeoCities for not rising to their technical standards.

[PBS Poll-435]

43. No i meant a 360K floppy drive so that he can keep FR goin' strong

[pokerfan]

125. I found a picture of their server farm

[PBS Poll-435]

143. He must be paying out the ass for Air Conditioning to keep that cool.

Explains the FReepathons!

:D

[Ahpook]

64. So he is hosing his own supporters?

Curious where he learned that tactic?

[Hannah Bell]

126. i'm clueless. what would a ballpark estimate be to run a site like that?

[PBS Poll-435]

145. Max of 2K a month for hosting and probably 1K for server maintenence and upgrades per month

Fee (sic) Republic is the 1092th most visited site in the US.


http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/freerepublic.com

[Hannah Bell]

148. thanks. would't you add some kind of salary for robinson & his brother to that though?

[PBS Poll-435]

152. I guess they file State-LLC, and Fed-Partnership

:shrug:

Otherwise they would pass-through their LLC to Federal S-Corp and get K-1s for the S-Corp rather than a partnership. You are taxed on business income rather then what you actually receive.

JimRob says he does not get a salary, but takes a draw.

The whole story doesn't make any sense or they have a really shitty accountant.

(Why not shield your business entity federally when your idiotic website discusses national politics?) If I were to sue JimmyRob, it would not be in state court in California. I have seen so many supposedly "protected" LLCs that file a 1065, federally, have that wall of protection between business assets and personal ones dissolved because they commingle funds.

[Hannah Bell]

158. interesting, thanks.

[Arkansas Granny]

11. I've noticed that their more recent "freepathons" take longer and longer

to raise the amount of money that they ask for. They seem to be in almost constant fundraising mode.

[peekaloo]

17. hand lotion and tissue prices have gone through the roof!

}(

[Critters2]

95. Grrr...tea all over my keyboard!

:spray:

[mindwalker_i]

97. Maybe they should hold their free-a-thons at a sperm bank

[kimi]

102. Oh, that's funny!!

Thank you for that laugh!

[woo me with science]

70. DU has simply the best format of any website I have seen.

FR is like the sites I remember from 1997.

[Not Me]

3. wah. wah. wah.

Antiquated systems, antiquated ideas.

[LynneSin]

4. Wow, just let that steaming pile of shit die

seriously!

[peekaloo]

6. haha...death panel!

pull the plug!

[hedgehog]

7. Paraphrase "Throwing money at the problem won't help, but we'd need losts of money to

fix the problem. We'd need lots of programmers and support staff, but we don't trust outsiders to work on our system."
These guys aren't much more coherent than Jared Loughner.

[mwooldri]

111. Trust. That's obviously a big issue for Mr. Robinson.

I also say Mr. Robinson isn't that much of a patriot, with the Japanese NTT providing his internet connection. DU on the other hand use a local specialist company in Wilmington, DE.

The biggest cost that I can see that a site like FR or DU would have would be bandwidth. FR has the upside here in some respects because it isn't a very bandwidth intensive site. $1200/mo IMO could keep FR or DU ticking over on its own server with "enough" bandwidth.

I'd happily have outsiders help me out with anything technical. Sometimes it is time to step aside and let the specialists in. The phrase goes about "a doctor knows how to operate, a good doctor knows when to operate, a great doctor knows when not to operate." You can say a lot of that about a lot of professions. Mr. Robinson obviously is not a good or great website technician, as FR would have evolved along with the rest of the web. It hasn't.

[zbdent]

116. what?

They can't even afford the outsourced foreign programmers to fix their site?

[SpiralHawk]

8. Wow - the republicon whining is just off the chart

Republicon FAIL freaks are soooo whiney.

It's really quite sad.

[nxylas]

46. That, I suspect, is their problem

Top-drawer web designers who also believe that the Earth was created in 6 days 6000 years ago must be pretty thin on the ground, I'd imagine.

[TroglodyteScholar]

112. WINNER

[AsahinaKimi]

9. Not sure he could handle getting rich??

WTF kinda Republican is he?

[Frank Cannon]

28. A liar.

Like all the rest of them.

[AsahinaKimi]

30. lol!

Good one!^^

[dd2003]

129. is that you in the profile pic?

that girl is drop dead gorgeous

[pinto]

10. Oy. A lesson in "How not to respond to your membership / supporters"

:eyes:

[freeplessinseattle]

42. seriously. is that supposed to be a motivational talk?

way to sweet talk them into parting with their precious dollars for an ungrateful bitter crappy board owner.

[Erose999]

84. RepubliCONS love supporting bitter people, liars, and grifters. I mean youhave to be named "Dick"

Dick before they'll let you run for office. Fear, resentment, and bitterness is the only way to motivate them to action.

[sufrommich]

99. He's got a real "king of the hill" mentality. nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. Sell your government-provided wheelchair, Rim.

That's a good start.

[Botany]

13. tens of thousands of thousand dollar donations each month?

30,000 x 1,000 = 30,000,00

[TxVietVet]

14. Does this mean the conservanazi's forum is trash?

Ain't that a f*cking shame?
I use to access their forum and they would purge you in a heartbeat if you didn't follow the conservanazi political line of bu$hit and lies.
I would monitor it occasionally and see what the talking points of the day are. I found that those clowns are very, very gullable.

[Motown_Johnny]

15. "We want the services but we don't want to pay the taxes"

Who ever would of thought that of them?

:sarcasm:

[GreenPartyVoter]

22. LOL

[Statistical]

16. He is insane and this is coming from a 10 year sys admin and database developer.

Yeah large website (not sure FR can be considered large) do take some resources however his estimates are off by a couple magnitudes.

I think this is a case of "I can't figure it out therefore it is impossible". There is nothing unique (that I can see as a non member at least) on the backend of FR that couldn't be replaced by off the self code & database with moderate amount of costs (thousands not millions) and a small amount of customization.

Now the ongoing costs (server hosting, backups, bandwidth) that is outside my area of expertise but the nice thing is they tend to scale well. 10x the people requires 10x the resources but hopefully 10x the donations.

Personally I think he is just a really shitty programmer/developer/admin.

[rbixby]

57. Not only that...

but you can buy canned discussion forum software that's inexpensive, easily customizable, and looks way better than FR.

[MelissaB]

74. I agree. It will take some customization and a programmer who knows what he/she is doing,

but it can be done for thousands.

I run sites (not in my sig line) that have tens of thousands of members and are pic heavy that require multiple servers. He's just wanting $$ or just plain too stupid or lazy to get a programmer. On his behalf, I will say that finding a reliable programmer isn't as easy as it sounds.

[MelissaB]

75. Here's a personal offer to rebuild FR for less than the money Jim thinks it will.

I'll do it for half price and he'll have a hellava site. Hit me up Jim.

[Crankie Avalon]

18. No bailout, Freepers!

If you can't pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, you deserve to fail.

[Botany]

23. to little to fail?

:rofl:

[PBS Poll-435]

24. Bad!

:rofl:

[Botany]

26. Happy Ones Day

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x171966

[MattBaggins]

19. Hey RimJob, FR dieing would be no bad thing

It would a complete and utter non-event. Not one single person on this earth, that actually matters, would even notice.

[DaveinJapan]

20. Did I read that right, a quarter of a million bucks a YEAR to run his website????

Seriously, did I miss something?

How much of that is being pocketed?

Does it really cost a quarter of a million dollars to run a second rate website these days?

$240,000????

Damn...I need to get into the reactionary right wing website business!

[PBS Poll-435]

21. Dial-up server hosting is really expensive. Plus the food for the mouse (mice) that power the rack

Running a text-based forum of idiots can be financially prohibitive.

[mikeytherat]

31. Plus, he keeps kicking over the box with all the punchcards in it.

Reorganizing that many slips of paper takes time!

mikey_the_rat

[w4rma]

32. Is it any wonder why so many people get into the 'dupe r-wingers into donating lots of money to me"

business? All you have to do is say outrageous and harmful things against "those liberals" and you too can become a millionaire.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

71. Seriously. I entertained that thought more than once.

But I'd need a much stronger stomach.

[NYC Liberal]

33. Not to mention there are barely any images on it!

It's a crappy text-based site from the late 90s. The software was clearly built for dialup, so why would it be so resource intensive that it costs that much?!

[HughBeaumont]

25. It costs 6-digit green to keep THAT Mosaic-era relic going?

Whenever I look at FR, I'm going "Is this Free Republic now or the web 15 years ago?"

Get over yerself RimJob. That cash is for your cruises, paid for by delusional people who bitch about paying for anything.

[PBS Poll-435]

27. Fresno-area hookers cost bank. nt

[HughBeaumont]

82. What would they DO with him?

:rofl: I mean, do they just show up, collect the cash, show a little something-something and leave? It's not as if he can rock THEIR world at this point.

[Le Taz Hot]

141. Hey, hey, hey!

Our Fresno-based hookers have much better taste than that. Besides, they're waiting for the next Promise Keepers Convention to make the REAL money. (I'm NOT kidding)

[PBS Poll-435]

144. !

:rofl:

[conspirator]

77. A republican always cooks the budget numbers so he can pocket some of the cash

If he wasn't corrupt he could not call himself a freeper could he?

[begin_within]

29. Well, top-drawer, cutting-edge web site design does cost.

Oh, wait.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

34. If they need money then why don't they ask their boss for a raise?

I'm sure someone at FR has direct contact or phone# with Beck.

[Saphire]

51. they already are....only not BecKKK

To: CAluvdubya
Need a financial Knight in shining armor. Rush? Are you there?



28 posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:50:56 AM by TheRake

To: ErnBatavia
It's more than obvious to me that FR is a source of much of Limbaugh's commentary.....it'd be nice if he waved the financial wand now and again.
He probably does give, but he shouldn't have to carry everybody's water.


50 posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:02:33 AM by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)

[Shandris]

67. Like Rush is going to give these blowhards money.

Look, I used to be a right-winger myself, I've never made any attempt whatsoever to hide it. So to my knowledge, the best 'example' of Rush 'giving' anyone some money was to hold a Bake Sale that he advertised for.

Anyone want to see the Free Republic Bake Sale? Maybe we'll finally have a chance to find out exactly what the hell is in their water.

Maybe we could get a Flouride company to promo it. :)

But in all seriousness, I couldn't navigate my way through that place with a site map, a guide, and a head start, let alone make it actually readable. I'm pretty damn certain it takes a certain amount of...special knowledge...to do so.

Find some bootstraps assholes, your Dominican child lover in shining armor isn't going to do jack to help you.

[Saphire]

53. Fear...it never fails to arouse those idiots. Threaten to cut off their

one and only stage to spout their bullshit, and Rimjob has the $$ rolling in. Works everytime.

[mikeytherat]

35. The items pictured below? They're called "bootstraps." And they can solve all your problems!

Step 1: Locate bootstraps.
Step 2: Grab hold of bootstraps.
Step 3: Pull.

Repeat as necessary until you achieve your goals.

mikey_the_rat

[LynneSin]

56. Or as Christine O'Donnell would say - Get yer Man-Pants on RimJob

:rofl:

[sarcasmo]

37. self delete.

[malaise]

38. Let it die Jimrob - where should I send these?

[TheCowsCameHome]

39. Hey Jim, I just sent a contribution. Watch for it.

"Fl-u-u-u-u-u-ush"

[tammywammy]

44. I guess I just don't get it

There are three people that run DU. I don't think they're doing it for the money, but they obviously make enough to live off of. And DU is just such a better site. FR is a piece of crap, hard to navigate, and shitty to look at.

Apparently the free market is telling FR to shove off.

[Buns_of_Fire]

45. Pony up, kids. Daddy wants a new RV... nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. A staff runs that site?

Good grief. They must spend their time eating cheetos instead of maintaining the website.

[madrchsod]

48. several years ago jimmy boy purged members who wanted to know...

where the money was going. i think one of the guys who helped him set up the site was "fired" over his questioning.

we can raise enough money in one week to keep our site going and it takes jimmy weeks.

we`ll see if jimmy can attract some "outside investors"

[Amerigo Vespucci]

49. I am going to donate today so RimJob can buy one of these

...a USB-powered hamster in an exercise wheel. I believe the hamster (who I'll call "Jim" in honor of RimJob) can generate enough kilowats to sdave FreeRepublic and, in turn, our nation.

Won't you join me in this season of giving?

:eyes:

[old mark]

50. How can we help this to happen? What could help kill FR?...nt

[Erose999]

87. Posting a file on their cache over 64k would probably do it. LOL

[gatorboy]

52. "Not sure I could handle getting rich."

Hahaha! Because it's obvious all that money goes directly into your Pinto of a website.

[lonestarnot]

54. Snort.

:rofl:

[LynneSin]

55. I remember when I first saw the website back in the late 1990s

A coworker was reading it all the time. I had no clue what it was but found it totally incoherent to find anything.

Oddly enough almost 15 years later the site has not changed one bit.

How that man spends hundreds of thousands of dollars each year just boggles my mind since it's not on any kind of software updates.

[rbixby]

59. He's probably still paying 1990s prices for this bandwidth

A smart person would re-evaluate those things every year or so to make sure they're not getting screwed over, and its definitely on the customer to pursue better pricing, your ISP isn't going to call you up and say "Hey, how would you like to be paying us 90% less?". Its probably a case somewhat like that.

[CanonRay]

60. Maybe the Koch brothers will write him a check

[madmom]

61. Ok, I'm confused..........

"It’s going to take tens of thousands of donations and many with at least three zeros each after the comma to accomplish the task. And that would be EVERY month like clock work to make the payroll."

and

"we have zero employees."


does not work together. Would someone please tell me why you need to "make payroll" if you "have zero employees"?

[XanaDUer]

72. When "make the payroll"

really means "pad my bank accounts".

Yeah, rule one for grifters- keep your stories straight. :rofl:

[conspirator]

86. Coherence is not a republican's stronger side n/t

[nxylas]

142. Not technically true

He could be using subcontractors.

[Still a Democrat]

62. Open the books

I don't "donate" to amny site or organization that doesn't open their books.

[conspirator]

83. But we all involuntarily donated to big banks with the bailout

And we don't even know all the banks names

[PBS Poll-435]

146. Free Republic Savings & Loan, NA

:scared:

[XanaDUer]

63. Doesn't FR have a constant fund raiser going?

You da thunk, by now, they coulda put in some upgrades.

Oh, well. Like the dodo, it may have to go extinct.

[Ikonoklast]

80. 'Ol RimJob's RV doesn't run on moonbeams, yanno.

Cost of fuel keeps going up, and the sheep need to be fleeced on a regualr basis or them big wheels don't roll.

[XanaDUer]

85. I'm finding it hard to believe it costs, at least, 100k/year to run a site

Maybe it does. But, he has zero employees there.

[chat_noir]

90. He raises about $350,000 a year

with 4 FReepathons

[XanaDUer]

92. Damn!

I wonder if any over there question where the moola goes. That is one fugly, hard-to-use site!

[Buns_of_Fire]

65. In other news, Porta-Potty rental rates soar... nt

[XanaDUer]

66. Here's a good one:

To: paulycy
Would it help to get rid of the superfluous forums? The Religion forum, for one, brings nothing but heartache and endless stabs in the face.


14 posted on Tue Jan 11 2011 08:42:54 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time) by InvisibleChurch (Being awake is dangerous and silly.)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies>

[XanaDUer]

68. No, sorry, Jimbo needs a "sugar mama"

To: paulycy; Jim Robinson
OK, I just donated $50.
But it's inevitable, Jim. Change will come.

And if you refuse to change the way you manage the servers and software, it will crash and burn.

Now I respect your attitude, but the future of FreeRepublic is more important than any one of us.

I hope you have a change of heart, or find a wealthy “sugar momma”!

23 posted on Tue Jan 11 2011 08:48:30 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time) by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies>

Are the upstanding FR folks actually encouraging prostitution?

EDIT - typo.

[Erose999]

93. I think they are widening their stance on the issue. Also

Its funny how the guy says " the future of FR is more important than any of us". When their "leader" had pretty much just told the flock that it wasn't. HAHAHAHA

[Ghost in the Machine]

69. Yeah sure, RimJob, keep fleecing the flock of sheeple over there

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My Dog those freepers are stupid!

[AspenRose]

73. They can always go to Stormfront.

[Rex]

76. Amazing how a piece to trash website needs a few hundred thousand

dollars to keep running...although this is RimJim we are talking about here, probably all lies and his actual count of 5 followers have no money.

[conspirator]

78. Do like your big business pals jimmy, outsource to india

Quality is not a concern, given the current shit state

[Matariki]

79. I'm surprised Fox and Roger Ailes isn't bankrolling them

[B Calm]

81. A con conning cons, LOL

[Fuzz]

88. Right wingers don't take to change very easily. They like that old format.

[mwooldri]

107. I wonder how many visitors to FR are from the aol.com domain? nt

[leeroysphitz]

89. If only the evil federal gubmint would let Jim keep more of what he earned he might have been able

to upgrade his site and create new jobs for a tech and DB admins.

it's too bad that tax n spend congress and soshulist president let those tax cuts expire...

[Taverner]

91. If that's that, then I piss on your grave, FR

Not just any piss but post-Asparagus piss!

[Warren DeMontague]

94. Hmmm. Sounds like he's having some problems with his floppy dick.

Sorry, floppy disks.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

96. Another Republican who can't pull up his bootstraps looking for a handout

No shock, Rim Job has learned well.

[sufrommich]

98. Makes one wonder how much JimRob pays himself. That's an

awful lot of money going into a shitty,antiquated system.

[tblue37]

100. Well, if he didn't automatically "Zot" everyone who had even the

slightest disageeement with him or with the site's party line, he might have more contributors. A lot of his members have left the site in disgust at some of what has been said there, and many others were thrown off the site for expressing a modicum of moderation.

[kimi]

101. Well, the poor dears

Gonna head right on over there with a full wallet and open checkbook.

Mustn't lose THAT bastion of love-for-fellow-man, now must we??

[Mike 03]

103. Thank you for this post, and K and R/ NT

[Last_Stand]

104. That's hilarious...

I didn't know hamsters running in wheels were that expensive to replace.

[gratuitous]

105. I feel like crying

:rofl:

Wait, that's not what I feel like at all.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Downtown Hound]

106. Jim, if you want your site to look nicer

All you gotta do is get some web design software that was made in the last ten years. Not that primitive, 90's style HTML for Dummies you've been using.

[walldude]

108. Doesn't he ask for like $80,000 in donations

quarterly? Plus, is he saying that if FR dies that a black hole will suck up the entire universe? That's that? Delusions of grandeur?

[PBS Poll-435]

110. He wants 92K this quarter alone! nt

[guitar man]

109. If FR dies

Online porn profits will go through the roof...they will be able to spend all there time whacking off in mom's basement then! :rofl: :spray:

[Monk06]

113. He targets $368,000 in donations a year but he doesn't have to show his books

to anyone. He has a tidy little family business going on
there where he doesn't have to publicize who his donors are
and he has some big ones. Just watch his Freepathons. Every once
in a while you see a sudden jump in donations. Especially around
election time. Bet he's getting some Koch cash through one of his
anonymous donors.

[ohheckyeah]

114. We could get together

and start an alternative for them. Then every time one of them posts their violent crap we could send their ISP to the proper authorities. ;-)

[JI7]

115. does he really raise over 300k and only 1 employee ?

and it's clear there hasn't been any changes to the site since the 90s or whenever they first started. so where does the money raised go ?

[Devil_Fish]

117. Dude, Ever here of WordPress??? NT

[Blue-Jay]

118. How will he pay for his new Rascal?

[madinmaryland]

119. Heh! The Head-Freeper begging for hand-outs! CLASSIC!!

The irony is so rich!

[flvegan]

120. DU was an awesome site BEFORE we had ads.

I'm not saying anything against the ads, but to suggest it takes huge money to make a better (meaning that it looks like it was built after 1996) is just false, DU being the proof.

At least as far as I know.

[progressoid]

121. He's opposed to banner ads? Sounds like he's anti-capitalism!!11!

[upi402]

122. well jebus was a soashlisss n/t

[Kip Humphrey]

123. Jim's problem is...

He hangs out with too many Freepers.

:rofl:


His other problem is...


When you spend too much time in the locker-room
you end up smelling like a sweaty jock-strap.


:eyes:

[bullwinkle428]

124. Palin could take grifting lessons from this asshole.

[dd2003]

127. well who wants to sell themselves to the devil

Start a new and better fr.....Makes at least 300k a year...lol

[grasswire]

130. and Rachel just quoted FR tonight!

They can't go under now that they've reached some notice.

[NuclearDem]

131. If FR dies, DU dies temporarily too

I don't think the servers could handle the massive celebration.

[JCMach1]

136. Excactly, my life would be immediately empty...

NOT!!!! :bounce:

[Sugarcoated]

132. Buh bye

[chollybocker]

133. Sounds like he needs bail money...and fast.

(I wish.)

[entanglement]

134. I started reading in a mirthful mood and then came across this...

just donated..

I’ve been unemployed for 8 months and uneligible for unemployment....

Currently do not even have a place to live...literally homeless...yet, I gave...it was only $5.00 b/c it’s all I have....but I gave....b/c FR is valuable to me....if I ever expect to get a decent job and live in a robust economy I have to keep up w/politics and head these goons in Washington off.... FR helps w/ that...

If I can give, you all can too...just a little...if we all did it would make a difference....

372 posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:17:00 AM by DrewsMum

My heart just broke when I read that. I've been in dire financial straits before but at least (thankfully) I had no dependents to worry about. I hope Drew's Mum finds a job and a place for herself and Drew(?) to live.

[chollybocker]

138. After reading that, I suspect our hearts are breaking for very different reasons....

[True_Blue]

135. Here's a great idea

To: paulycy

“Babes of the Free Republic” calandar would raise some serious money ...

162 posted on Tue 11 Jan 2011 07:59:07 AM MST by Scythian
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:puke:

[NuclearDem]

137. Ugh.

They would. Fucking pigs.

[tavalon]

139. "Not sure I could handle getting rich"

Don't worry, Rimjob, it won't happen.

[Mudville9]

147. It Awakens...

Apparently all the questions coming from the shit flingers over at the FR cage have Rimjob stirred up enough to actually roll off the couch long enough to post a half baked explanation of how the grift is divided up among the employees @ FR (where there are "no employees," according to what he wrote earlier).

To: Patriotic1
We don’t get a salary, but we do take a draw. All four of us. We have to pay our bills and our taxes and we work at this full time so have no other way to earn a living. None of us are rich. Also, as the owners of Free Republic, LLC, the net income of the LLC flows back to us and we get to pay the taxes and both sides of the FICA on our personal tax returns.

The budget listed is a couple years old. I’ve asked John to update it, but he always seems to have bigger fish to fry. We added Chris to the payroll a couple years ago and his costs are not reflected in the budget. We also spend considerably more in travel than we budgeted and our taxes are much higher than we had listed. Also there are some big one time expenses we’ve had in the last couple of years that we had to borrow for and our payments are not listed. But they are almost paid off. Unless we get sued again or decide to purchase a lot more equipment or have some other large unexpected expenses pop up, I think we’ll be able to reduce our funding requirements starting next quarter.



886 posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:58:52 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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[Contrary1]

155. "We don’t get a salary, but we do take a draw. All four of us..."

What utter BS. "Draws" where I worked before are cash advances that are deducted from the next pay period.

How is that not considered a "salary"?

[Le Taz Hot]

140. And in the spirit of sacrifice,

I'm sure ole' Rim Job has donated his salary. :sarcasm:

[NoGOPZone]

149. You say it like that's a BAD thing, Jim nt

[ncteechur]

150. From Jim's mouth to God's ears!

[cynatnite]

151. Didn't Skinner say that this site operates at a fraction of what FR gets in donations? n/t

[CreekDog]

153. Judging by that thread --they must have blown some money on a spell checking system

:rofl:

[PBS Poll-435]

154. Dert nead know spelin.

Palin/Perry 2012!

waho! Zot!

[jmowreader]

156. Umm...Jim...

first, you're running a discussion board, not the control system for NORAD.

second, if you weren't running the most heavily censored board on the entire internet--to you, 99.99999 percent loyalty is 100 percent disloyalty--you wouldn't need an army of highly paid techs.

and third, you can get Open Source software that would do everything your subscribers want for free.

Maybe your board SHOULD die, especially since it's nothing but a hate site.

[bluestate10]

157. They should ask Murdock for a couple mill.

To build their dream site. And the day after if comes on line, get knocked off by hackers forever. What do they have over there anyway, buffed up mice turning wheels? Let's see, the 16 year old kid started programming about the time of the commodore computer.