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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:13 AM
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How will we ever fix the damage that is being done to our society?
I asked this question in a sub-thread in LBN but thought I'd drop it here in GD also.

So, how will we ever fix the damage the GOP/TEA and the greedy Wall Street barons have done to our country and to the global financial system?

Can it even be fixed?

What will life be like over the next couple of decades as a result of the damage being done today?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:14 AM
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1. the reason why
Obama will go down as an utter tragedy, beyond disappointment.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:18 AM
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2. It can be fixed.
And it's already starting. Fewer people are showing up for teabagger events. This does not take a large effort of one person. It takes the small effort of millions.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:18 AM
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3. You know what? I suspect the weekend will tell us
if we have a leader that can help us fix this or not.

It really depends on that how long it will take... but this is the next step in the end of empire.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:42 AM
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7. What is happening this weekend?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:43 AM
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8. Everybody and their sister will take positions on the downgrade
the POTUS is at Camp David right now... he stays there and does not emerge, that is done deaf.
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Dad Infinitum Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:22 AM
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4. Getting rid of the Bush tax cuts
http://www.slate.com/id/2291054/">The Do-Nothing Plan
How Congress can balance the budget in eight years by literally doing nothing. That's how stupid this whole thing is.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:36 AM
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5. there are larger forces in play than greedy corporatists
Those greedy bastards are simply taking advantage of a situation where the earth is running out of cheap oil, and where we have ruined our ecosystem. I believe the greedy ones figure that chaos is coming, and they will and do position themselves to profit from it. I'm not sure that any leaders can simply fix the damage. I'm afraid there is going to be significant upheaval.
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CleanGreenFuture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:38 AM
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6. I'm glad to see your reference to the root of all of this mess.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:02 AM
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10. I've long thought it's a resource grab.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 10:54 AM
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12. Carlyle just tried to grab some more water rights
In 2008, 22 percent of the evil Bush-tainted Carlyle Group's holdings were in energy/resources. You bet this is about resources. The corporate elites have studied Malthusian and Hegelian philosophies for more than a century. The Skull and Bones members, particularly, train to make profit through chaos and the manufacture of chaos. We are mere bugs on the windshield.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:01 AM
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9. According to my friends overseas, and I think they might have a point....
It comes down to two things:

Education and Media

Our educational systems favors accepting information unchallenged and regurgitating it back to prove we've learned something.

Our media tells us anything and we have neither learned the critical thinking skills nor developed the incentive to challenge it.

I know people at DU don't want to hear this, but I witness an abundance of poor critical thinking, logic and argumentation in progressive groups too. It's not a conservative phenomenon. The right just engages in a higher degree of cognitive dissonance and ideological thinking in my opinion.

My recommendation?

Get off our butts at the grass roots level again and take over school boards.
As for the media, I'm not sure how to rein in that monster, but it has to be done. Corporate controlled content and a focus on infotainment is so run amok I wouldn't know where to begin.

Perhaps most immediately, fight like hell for Move to Amend.

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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:06 AM
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11. A lot depends on who's writing the school history books..
In my kids' history books a few years back, I read that the Crusades were about people wanting to explore. When I was a kid, the Crusades were about exploitation and people forcing religion on other people.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:55 AM
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13. I don't know about other school boards, but ours has....
draconian control over text selection. I think many people have no idea how patient and methodical the far right has been over the last forty years. They only see the blatant power grabs now and don't realize how much ground work went into getting these people into positions to make these grabs possible.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:00 PM
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15. They have now made the crusades a touchy feely thing?
I am sure the people in Jerusalem who died thought so.

But think about it... if we are engaged in a generational struggle with them eeevvvviiiiilll Muslims :sarcasm: for those who need it, it makes sense.

And you are correct, There are more than one horrified statement of policy at the AHA (american Historical Association) level, but there is little professional historians can do beyond shun those who write that crap.

(And yes there was a little of exploration btw... but so little it is usually discounted by most historians)
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 11:15 AM
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18. So this is what school textbooks have come to.
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 11:21 AM by Brigid
I have no kids, and never had occasion to see the ones my nieces and nephews are using. All I can say is, this explains a lot. We're in big trouble. :(
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:57 AM
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14. I don't think it can be fixed.
That would take the kind of concerted effort we just can't muster anymore. :(
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:25 PM
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16. It never will be.
People had better get used to the fact that your children and grandchildren will leave in a much sadder, more divided, much more violent world than you grew up in. That's pretty much inevitable now. We can only hope that it isn't our children who pay the ultimate sacrifice for it all.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 03:17 PM
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17. We will never be able to fix the damage being done to our country until all vestiges of evil
RW-wickedness are wiped off the face of this nation. EOS :patriot:
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