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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:43 PM
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We need an FDIC-style program that guarantees public employee pensions.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 05:44 PM by FLAprogressive
Watching NBC Nightly News, and seeing these people getting their pensions THAT THEY FUCKING EARNED cut due to city bankruptcy makes me sick.....it's all the idiot politicians' fault. I think we need a national, FDIC-style program that guarantees public workers' pensions in the event of politician mismanagement.

K&R if you agree.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:44 PM
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1. +1000
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badhair77 Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:48 PM
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2. absolutely
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:50 PM
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3. What about us low-lifes who are not public employees?
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:59 PM
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7. There's the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation...
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:57 PM
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12. Which often does not come close to covering the full value of the pension
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:50 PM
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4. How would you pay for it and who would you trust to guarantee it?
The federal government? LOL. Look at what they did with SS and Medicare.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:51 PM
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5. K&R
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 05:58 PM
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6. There's the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation...
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 06:04 PM by PoliticAverse
http://www.pbgc.gov/

It covers private company pensions - you could extend it to public pensions.

The problem with many municipalities is that they have unfunded or vastly underfunded pension plans.

You could start by making a law that any public worker pension plans must be fully funded.




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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:03 PM
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8. +1
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:59 PM
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14. The PBGC is a bad joke
Pensioners are often forced to accept a small fragment of what they are owed.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:06 PM
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9. kick
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:06 PM
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10. we need independant investigations into where ALL of this money has gone
Funny, isn't it - how suddenly, after decades of people paying into pensions - there is suddenly no money?

We know the federal government has been using SS like a petty cash drawer. I'll bet the local governments have been doing the same with the other pension funds.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:17 PM
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11. It's more likely that the state and local governments never funded the plans
The situation is changing, but historically, most public employees were not required to pay into their pension plans. That's my understanding, at least.

The likely answer to you question is that the money was never there.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:58 PM
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13. The reason one does not exist is that the pensions were secured by the power to tax
and the pensions are first in line at the pay window. That of course has changed
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