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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:06 PM
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Poll question: I think Reid's plan is okay ~
After listening to a couple of progressive radio hosts explaining this, as well as a Congressman on Ed's radio show, I'm thinking it's not half bad (after I blew my top about Reid not including tax cuts - again jumped to conclusions about something I had no info on :eyes:): NO messing with the Big Three :thumbsup:, whacking $1T off of the "wars", taking all the superfluous crap off the table until after the 2012 elections.

What do you think?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:08 PM
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1. does it have the Super-Congress?
or whatever it's called, the future fast-track stuff?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:12 PM
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3. I don't THINK so,but maybe once again, I'm jumping in without
enough info. It's just so hard to keep up!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:14 PM
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4. it's my understanding that it does...
...but I'm basing that upon info I've read here on DU, today.
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AmericaIsGreat Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:11 PM
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2. Not good enough
1 trillion by "winding down" the wars? How could we possible guarantee that? We can't even guarantee when we'll be out of those countries. The GOP could easily play the emotional/fear-mongering card by arguing that reducing spending on wars would endanger service members and all kinds of shit.

No tax hikes, no deal.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:15 PM
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5. The Congressman said (and I apologize I didn't catch his name), that
this could be good for us in 2012 -- "we didn't raise taxes like you asked, we didn't touch Medicare, et al, like you asked...". To be pragmatic, I don't think they have a chance in hell of passing anything w/a tax hike (and I hate using that term).

And I can't answer about the wars, I don't understand all that it would entail, but if $1 were suddenly gone from that budget, that's got to be a plus, right?

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AmericaIsGreat Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:19 PM
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7. You saw Boehner's comment to the GOP
That they'd have to make sacrifices. I think they know they WILL end up approving a plan that includes hikes and there's no way around it.

Furthermore, (and this is partly why the GOP likely knows revenue will be part of the deal), we finally have the American public behind tax increases. There's no better time to solidify this than now. We can't afford to extend these cuts.

We can push for those cuts to the wars separately and the American public seems to be behind that, too. Shit, even the GOP are starting to realize how much money we're wasting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Let's do that separate from this. That way we can get tax hikes AND lower spending on wars.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 06:06 PM
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10. Good point about the American people behind the tax thing, but
honestly, they don't seem to be listening to anyone but the Teabaggers. I think, regardless of what Boehner said, the New Kids on the Block won't vote for anything that has tax "hikes", but I may be wrong.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:39 PM
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8. I tend to agree with you: they need to close those corporate loopholes
without countering them, and raise rates. They need to start collecting FIT from the big corporations and high income receivers (notice I didn't say "earners"). We have a revenue problem, not just a spending problem.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:15 PM
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6. until the rich start paying their share AND the MIC feels some serious pain...
...I'm opposed.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 06:12 PM
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12. Ideally, totally agree, but realistically I just don't see that happening
at this time.

But, I don't have a crystal ball, and I've been wrong MANY times before.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:43 PM
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9. And Bush tax cuts remain??? n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 06:11 PM
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11. For now, as I understand it. Do you really think we'd get the votes if
that was included in this proposal?

Plus, they're set to expire in 2013, so I'm not sure we could even rescind them before then.
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