So is the new theory that Obama offered major cuts to Social Security and Medicare benefits

[ProSense]

and the genius Boehner turned him down?

The brilliant Boehner walked away from a deal that would have potentially caused Obama major headaches, saving the President from himself.

Boehner rejected the very thing Republicans were after. He could have walked away a winner, but instead simply walked away.

Is this the theory?

Thank God for Boehner?

[Fumesucker]

1. A hundred billion here, a hundred billion there...

Pretty soon you're talking real money.

[jellen]

23. I believe that was Everett Dirkson's line. n/t

[liberal N proud]

2. Either that or the rhetoric about giving away Social Security and Medicare

was just that rhetoric and nothing more.

Don't know what to believe anymore, the propaganda in this country is so strong, makes it difficult.

[napi21]

3. Wel....I think Obama offered a BIG DEAL knowing up front

Boehner would never be ble to accept it. You see, that's what everyone meant by playing chess. Obama made it LOOK like he was even willing to abandon his own Psrty to get a deal done, and the ones who look REALLY BAD are Boehner & the tea partiers! I Still think this was his plan all along.

[piratefish08]

5. .

:wtf:

[Historic NY]

22. +1

[Rex]

4. Boner could have walked away a big winner by saying yes.

Or do you disagree?

[ProSense]

7. What stopped him from saying yes?

Didn't want to win and be seen as a hero?

[Rex]

9. His parties hatred for Obama is my guess.

You would have to ask him to know for sure. I think Obama knew they wouldn't take the offer and it would throw them off their game. Just imo.

[Ikonoklast]

24. Taxes, and he's scared shitless of the Teabaggers.

BBoner is a craven political coward, and the weakest Speaker in my lifetime.

[sofa king]

26. Well, there's Denny Hastert...

...Who apparently got an email from a White House aid telling him what his legislative agenda was going to be that day, every day, for the six years it took to destroy America.

[lamp_shade]

6. Did he offer cuts to "benefits"? That would be news to me.

[L0oniX]

8. Why is Obama using SS and Medicare as the kitty in the poker game?

Why is SS and Medicare even on the table? Why isn't Obama standing up for the poor, needy, sick and elderly? The gov has stolen the money from SS for war and everything else and now that it needs to pay it back they want to reduce it. Evil savage scum bags!

[ProSense]

12. Maybe

he was trying to save Seniors money: Obama Singles Out Drug Companies for Savings

And strenghthen Social Security by raising additional revenue (the revenue component he spoke of).

[L0oniX]

14. •

:crazy:

[ProSense]

17. That

fly bothering you?

[spanone]

10. it's apparent that boehner can't herd his cats

[Major Hogwash]

11. It was a trap that Boehner finally figured out would cost him his seat as Speaker of the House.

If he accepted the Big Deal, the Democrats in the House would have voted against it because the Democrats in the Senate would vote against it.

Democrats do not vote against Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid.
Not real Democrats, anyway.

We can't get all of the Blue Dawgs out of the Democratic party, but even they have to support the Big 3 federal programs.
The American people support those programs wholeheartedly, and overwhelmingly.

Boehner missed his one and only chance to vote to cut the Social Security budget that he will ever get in his whole miserable life!!!
He is the worst Speaker of the House, because he will never ever be offered a deal like that ever, ever, ever again!!!!

That's what happens to ideologues.

[Broderick]

13. lipstick on a pig will always be lipstick on a pig

good Golly Molly. How will that be written beyond your twisted logic. Obama accepts a Republican premise and starting point. There is no rope a dope. There is no gotcha. He is letting the opposition frame the damn debate, and playing defense. We have endured playing defense for 10 plus fucking years.

[ProSense]

15. Hmmmm?

" How will that be written beyond your twisted logic. Obama accepts a Republican premise and starting point. There is no rope a dope. There is no gotcha. "

We Won!!! Obama caved on himself!!! He offered a deal, and luckily the Republicans had the good sense to ignore all that "rope a dope" nonsense and reject it!

We Won!!! Yay!

[Broderick]

21. sigh

[sad sally]

16. Excuse me, is there an airport nearby large enough for a private jet to land?

We are the losers in this conversation; the untouched wealthy are looking for an airport to land their jet, chuckling all the way to the bank to pick more free golden sacks of money.

[EFerrari]

18. It's not a theory. That's what Obama said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x602681

[ProSense]

19. He said the word "benefits"?

Cutting entitlements also means eliminating waste and acheiving other savings.

Did he say he was going to cut Social Security and Medicare benefits?

[EFerrari]

27. You've already seen the responses from CEPR about

the Gang of Six proposal, which Obama showed favor for, as well as for chained CPi.

[SusanaMontana41]

28. Yup. Chained CPi cuts benefits,

whatever Washington is calling them ...

[bowens43]

20. whatever stopped is ok with me.................nt

[spanone]

25. teabaggers....they will not bend. they will not compromise. no taxes. period.