Can progressives trust a "binding commission" on entitlements to do the right thing?

[Faryn Balyncd]

2. Can we trust that the appointments to the commission will be those that have the most appropriate priorities?

3. Can we trust that the deliberations of the "binding commission" will be transparent?

4. Is this democracy?








:kick:

[Tom Rinaldo]

1. Put me down for multiple No's n/t

[theophilus]

2. No? n/t

[Zenlitened]

3. "No" on all counts. - n/t

[Lasher]

4. Hell no, are you kidding?

Just go ahead and call it the Foregone Conclusion Commission.

[Faryn Balyncd]

6. I'm not kidding. How is it that this is apparently going to be shoved down our throats?

[daleanime]

7. Better then...

Catfood Part Deux.:banghead:

[TheKentuckian]

5. Negative on all counts.

[21st Century FDR]

8. After the Warren Commission, the 9/11 Commission, and the Catfood Commission

I wouldn't trust a commission to tell me there are fires in Hell :evilfrown:

[Lasher]

13. Don't forget the Greenspan Commission.

Boy was that ever a raw deal for the middle class.

[Faryn Balyncd]

22. & we can thank the Boskin Commission for our "no inflation" CPI/COLA statistics.

:hi:

[Lasher]

36. I don't think they're going to be able to hide behind a commission on this one.

We're about to see how that third rail thing works, don't you think?

[QC]

9. No. No. No. No. n/t

[WillyT]

10. Nope...

:kick: & Rec!!!

:hi:

[neverforget]

11. Commissions are made because politicians can't do the right thing

[WillyT]

12. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!

:kick:

:hi:

[Faryn Balyncd]

14. So do you think the commission would decide to HONOR the obligations to those that have funded SS...

....with decades of contributions?


Or would the commission make it easier for politicians to renege on those obligations because they could blame it on the binding commission?

[neverforget]

37. they would provide cover for politicians to renege on the

obligations. For the record, I am absolutely 100% against any changes to SS or Medicare. The politicians idea of strengthening is to make it more difficult for people to get their benefits.

[daleanime]

15. Have to disagree....

commissions are made to provide cover to politicians when their trying to do the wrong thing(which is pretty much all the time).:banghead:

[Lasher]

21. That is more accurate.

[neverforget]

34. Absolutely

[QC]

20. Exactly! It's the modern equivalent of Pontius Pilate washing his hands

and giving in to the crowd.

[Lasher]

32. Is that a double mataphor?

I think it is. And doubly descriptive.

[gkhouston]

29. Commissions recommend solutions politicans would like to distance themselves from. n/t

[eridani]

16. FUCK NO!!!! n/t

[OHdem10]

17. It is time to clean house on the Hill. We need people who believe

in something strongly enough that they will fight
to protect Democratic Principles.

This Business of being too weak to do their job
is getting sickening.

They are just covering their royal behinds. They
think they can tell their constituents. I had
to do what the Commission said.

You better believe every commission will come up
with a Right Leaning Solution. Even the Bowles-Simpson
Commission. Go back and look at every commission
and you find similar. Oh yeah, they had this commission
on SS once. Same thing--privatize.

My point is: The Congress should do their job or
consider retiring.

[Karmadillo]

18. Morris the Cat and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse have promised to be very fair & balanced.

nt

[FLAprogressive]

19. Uh...no. Especially if its composition is similar to the Catfood Commission.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

23. It's not just progressives -- it's ANY American counting on the social safety net.

No, no and no.

[Faryn Balyncd]

26. You are absolutely right. That includes a large majority of Americans (even Republicans in denial).

[WorseBeforeBetter]

30. But, per usual, it's the progressives doing all the heavy lifting.

Trade agreements. Repeal of Glass-Steagall. Election fraud. No WMDs in Iraq. Jobs. Marriage equality. And on and on and on...

[PoiBoy]

24. No...

..fuck their silly "commissions" and "studies"... cut the crap and get to work, boys and girls...!

fucking delusional corporatists....

[Zorra]

25. Rhetorical question? nt

[Faryn Balyncd]

27. Yep....posed because it appears that a "binding commission" is now the axe of choice to cut SS & MC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1498662

[Zorra]

28. My question was rhetorical as well.

:hi:

[Angry Dragon]

31. NO!!.......NO!! .......... NO!!

I believe that is one of the reason that we fought
the first major war in this country


NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION


What do we need congress for if they are just going to bypass them??
Might as well have commissions come with ideas and have all the people vote up or down on it...........

[scarletwoman]

33. I love commissions. Commissions are made up of important experts who know what's good for us.

We need this commission because we are too stupid to know what's good for us without the commission telling us. We ought not to be questioning our betters.

K&R
sw

[JDPriestly]

35. No way.

And who would appoint the members of the Commission?

Obama virtually let Pete Peterson control it last time.

This is a cop-out and a dastardly idea.

[saras]

38. Commission of more crimes, perhaps.

So by a "binding commission", they mean "a crime that we're going to get away with, and can't be undone."

[The Magistrate]

39. To Be Blunt, Sir: Fuck No

[Luminous Animal]

40. This Proud Firebagger Since 2005 says no.

[Forkboy]

41. Are they in Washington and do their lips move?

[upi402]

42. 911 Commission foreshadows

uh NOPE!

[somone]

43. SHIT NO

[donheld]

44. Not in a million years

[Demeter]

45. No, No, a thousand Times NO

There is no reason to trust anyone except Elizabeth Warren and maybe Sheila Bair, Alan Grayson, Sheldon Whitehouse, and Dennis Kucinich most days.

[999998th word]

46. N.O. PE.RI.OD.