Concern trolls at the wienergate.

[WingDinger]

The news is all aTwitter about the scandal du jour. Even though there are reports of large scale hacking of all facets of our country by major and minor players, even nation states.

Lets analyze this. Make charges that are patently absurd, or at least implausible. Ask the target over ad infinitum about it. When they get tired of the same absurdity, accuse them of ducking the truth. Allow enough ambiguity to call them a liar when they cant emphatically prove either way. Blame the target for the controversy, as they have been unable to disprove a negative. This has been the MO of the rethugs since our kenyan was to campaign.

Death panels, Kenyan birth, Hearing a certain church sermon. Obama's faith or lack thereof. Weiner's disjointed member. Pelosi's hearing the torture congressmen. On and on. This is sophisticated psyops.

How can they convince us that idiocy has a likelihood of truth? They have been assaulting our language, and vocabulary for some time. They have ruined many terms, and redefined them, to sow confusion. Those words can now be used to smear any Dem, and if they object, rethugs can simply say that those words meanings have changed. No longer does Oreilly need facts, just firm impressions. And common wisdom. Bearing false witness is scarcely recognized as a commandment anymore. It is simply politics. Lying, conniving, obfuscating, setting up, smearing, planting evidence, creating photos or other evidence out of whole cloth. All respectable tools of the media/extended punditry.

All that matters is the takedown. Even better if you can demystify a person by forcing them to reveal their penis, or other degradation. Though I dint have a solution, I know this. When a country lies repeatedly to itself, the country is finished. Only truth, and honesty can further the integrity, and trustworthiness. The path we are on, I, as a foreigner, wouldn't believe a fucking word out of an american mouth. Bearing false witness as a sport will be the end of us. Though that is child splay compared to what they will do with us, if they get in power. It is quite clear that they dint intend to pass this way again. If you are willing to lie, cheat steal, what is a little dictatorship among friends.

[Ganja Ninja]

1. Here's a solution. Don't take photos of your own crotch.

Then there's no way possible they can end up on-line.

And don't fool around with your interns. That way your sperm stain won't end up on her dress.
And don't post shirtless pics of yourself on Craig's list either.

In short, have some dignity and show some respect for the office you hold and the people you represent.

[JoePhilly]

2. And don't rub your feet against others in the men's room.

And don't text underage male interns with sexually explicit content while portraying yourself as a "family values" leader.

And don't use hookers while portraying yourself as a "family values" leader.

And don't get your parents to pay off the husband of your mistress while portraying yourself as a "family values" leader.

And don't pretend you are hiking in Appalachia, when you are screwing a mistress in Argentina, while portraying yourself as a "family values" leader.

And don't sleep with a mistress in the Governor's mansion and then tell your wife about the divorce via a press conference.

And don't cheat on your wife, while also claiming that some one else who cheated on their wife should be removed from office.

[Ganja Ninja]

5. All very good rules to follow. n/t

[JoePhilly]

29. Simply making the point that ...

even if he took a photo of his own junk, that is NOTHING to the list of scandals I listed ... and yet none of those seem to get the same attention, and we KNOW these are true.

[Wait Wut]

13. Wow.

You just don't wany anyone to have ANY fun, do you?

Next you'll be saying we shouldn't kick puppies or keep children in dog crates.


Edit to add: That was my 666th post. I'm obviously not the anti-christ since nothing cool happened. Damn.

[JoePhilly]

28. hahahaha

[postulater]

3. And don't have social media accounts that are so easy to hack.

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[Ganja Ninja]

6. No there's nothing puritan about it.

I could care less what a private individual does. When you run for public office you owe it to the people that supported you to show a certain measure of decorum. You're member of the US House of Representatives not the animal house. Taking photos of your crotch is unwise for reasons that should be obvious by now.

[WingDinger]

7. So, what was the breeak in decorum? Calling the reporter a jackass?

And as far as decorum goes, I dont give a shit whether anyone does anything that doesnt hurt anyone else. The rub{sic}, is when you attack those that do just what you do, and call them evil.

Did you think that GWB never taking his jacket off in the oval office returned decorum to the office?

[Ganja Ninja]

8. The break in decorum was taking pictures of his own crotch.

Even if he's only sending them to his wife. And this whole flap is the "obvious reason" you don't do that if you're a member of congress. Get it? This is what can happen when you do stupid shit like that and you're a member of congress.

[G_j]

9. and you know this how??

:shrug: :rofl:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1217004

[Ganja Ninja]

12. Did he deny it was a photo of him?

The answer is no. All he has to do is say "That's not me, I didn't send it" and this flap would be exactly what it is, nothing more than a smear. Instead we get "I didn't send it but it might be me." How the fuck does that look?

Defend him all you want but if he can't flat deny it's a photo of him then he's the one that's making this worse.

[kestrel91316]

20. He's not required to say a damned thing. If you are going to maintain that it's him in the pic,

that he took it, and/or that he sent it, it's up to you to PROVE it.

So prove it. Right now.

[CreekDog]

26. you've already decided he's guilty

so since your mind is made up, why don't you just move onto the next topic.

and since you've already made up your mind that anyone in a similar circumstance is guilty (of what i don't know --but it's their own damned fault according to you...)

let's move on from that.

you've decreed, you've decided, you're wrong, but that's no matter, your mind can't be changed.

[WingDinger]

10. I hope they dont try to frame the Ganja Ninja. That might be easy.

[Forkboy]

30. I kind of hope they do. Might be a good lesson.

[Lex]

11. You know for certain that's his crotch?

How do you know this?

[Ganja Ninja]

14. If it's not his why doesn't he say so? n/t

[Lex]

15. I was wondering how YOU know for certain if he doesn't?

[WingDinger]

16. read post 4

[Ganja Ninja]

17. And when he was asked if that was a photo of him he says something to the effect of

"I don't know it might be photo shopped" and that's when this whole thing blew up in his face.

Is it him? I don't know and it seems neither does he. If he just denies it's him all of this becomes a story about a political dirty trick. Why the fuck can't he do that?

[WingDinger]

22. Not a fucking chance. They will do a search for the blue dress.

Searching thru his undie drawer, is good enough for them. If they found the blue dress, they could run him out of office in disgrace. And gain crucial momentum for the breakout of their candidates. If it didnt find the blue dress, they would have shamed him thereby making him a eunich. And providing an example of what happens when you speak truth to power. Republican power that is.

Or, they could command him to get it up, to see if the photo matches his member. Like Clinton's bent penis. All psyops. All corrupt. To the bone.


To add, they may want to get him under oath, and do JUST like they did Clinton.

[kestrel91316]

21. He's under no obligation to say a damned thing. If you are going to say

such a thing (that it's a pic of him or that it's a pic he took or sent) then YOU better have proof.

Slander and libel work that way.

[kestrel91316]

19. And where is your proof that he took that pic, that he sent it to anyone,

that it is of him? Or any one of the above?

<crickets chirping>

PROOF.

[emilyg]

31. +100

[DirkGently]

23. This attitude is why these tactics work. "All he has to do is produce the birth certificate."

He says he didn't send it. She says she didn't receive it. So why does it matter whose underpants they are? Why is it a "scandal?" How is it that he seems "guilty?" Of. What?

What do we care if the man has a boxcar full of pictures of his underpants. It's pretty clear he's not engaged in some scurrilous practice of harassing young college women with them, given he deleted the thing before she got it.

[Aerows]

24. Here's a solution

stop having a healthy sex life, and God forbid it's your wife taking pictures of your crotch. God forbid you are ever witnessed in an activity where the photograph can be manipulated to make it look like you were involved in anything that could possibly be anything less than benign.

Don't even think about sex, because some puritanically obsessed, sanctimonious person might think there is something wrong with you.

You should be ASHAMED to ever be photographed in your underwear, because REAL people wear 3 piece suits 24/7/365.

Oh - and who says it's even him? You are aware that there's just a crotch shot. It could literally be any number of men.

[CreekDog]

25. No, all they have to do is hack your account and put a photo in it

and all someone has to do is surreptitiously take a picture of your crotch for it to be *your* picture.

have you ever changed clothes a gym? do you think if someone really wanted to, they could snap a photo of you in your boxers and put it up on the net somewhere?

the problem with your post is that you seem to suggest that if this happens to you --it's without a doubt your own damned fault.

for some reason you seem to think the world is fair to people whom things happen to.

i don't.

[TheKentuckian]

18. Regardless, I wish the Junior High Shakers Committee would shut the fuck up

and cease hand wringing about a lameass picture of a man in his underwear.

The only ones gnashing teeth are the "sensible centrists" and the way gone nanny staters crying like "Moral Majority" loving Reich Wingers.

Wieners biggest failure is pretending the issue has any merit, true or not.

[WingDinger]

27. What I truly would have liked, is for him to say to Fox news team,

I said I didnt send it, I dont know if someone cropped a shot of me, stay the FUCK out of my pants.