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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:35 AM
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Appalling Greed: Richest 400 Americans Make Average Of $270.5 Million, Pay Almost No Taxes
http://www.alternet.org/economy/150956/appalling_greed:_richest_400_average_$270.5_million_incomes,_pay_almost_nothing_in_taxes/
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:47 AM
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1. Is there a list of names?
Edited on Tue May-17-11 10:48 AM by Fridays Child
I want to see if I'm related to any of them. :P
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 10:49 AM
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2. here ya go- can I have a finder's fee? I'll take one million
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:14 AM
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5. Hey, that list only goes to 385.
What if my people are in the bottom 15?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:00 AM
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3. nice article, but I don't like the title
for one thing, they don't use my label - the Fab 400 http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/123

For another thing, the tax rate for the Fab 400 is actually higher in 2008 than it was in 2007. Also, they pay an average of $45 million in Federal Income Taxes. That is a long ways away from "almost nothing".

Also, it might be nice to point out that those 400 saved over $11 billion* from the extension of the Bush tax cuts last December and compare that $11 billion to some of the cuts the Republicans made.


*11 billion comes from

average income $275 million X 51% of income from capital gains X 20% they save in taxes because capital gains are taxed at 15% rather than 35% X 400


The same would be true of their dividend income. And the so-called "Ryan deficit reduction plan" includes a proposal to cut the tax on capital gains and dividends to ZERO, which would save the Fab 400 even more.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:18 AM
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6. The effective taxation rate, on average, would be about 16%...
There are people making $90,000 a year who pay a higher percentage of their income than that.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:33 AM
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8. After having done the math, it's 6% higher on regular income taxes for the person at $90,000...
Edited on Tue May-17-11 11:34 AM by originalpckelly
plus you have to factor in the payroll taxes too.

So in other words, even though someone making $90,000 is making a shitload less than $270,000,000, they are paying a higher taxation rate, if they are single and don't take any exemptions.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:09 AM
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4. Stop bashing the rich.
I'm going to become rich any day now.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:21 AM
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7. Yes but are they bullit proof? ...or immune to a guillotine? Do they like cake too?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 11:52 AM
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9. They should be paying, at the very least, the same percentage of
their income in taxes as the average paid by the remainder of Americans.

Frankly, if I ran things they would pay what they paid back in the good old days under Eisenhower. Their top tier of income was taxed at 90% wasn't it? Not their total income, but the top tier.
I happen to think the first, say, $40k of ANYONE'S income should not be subject to income tax - but obscene amounts need to be highly taxed.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 12:09 PM
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10. Interesting - looks like a bunch of old white guys mostly. Now I want
to see that list with a list of their charitable giving beside it.
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