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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:52 PM
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Borders, Barnes & Noble, censor shirtless man.
Edited on Mon May-16-11 06:53 PM by canetoad
A magazine cover featuring groundbreaking Melbourne model Andrej Pejic has been deemed too racy for magazine stands in the US because the gender-bending "Broady boy" is bare-chested and looks too feminine.

The 19-year-old from working-class Broadmeadows has taken the fashion world by storm with his androgynous look, modelling womenswear for Paris couture shows and even wearing a wedding dress for Jean Paul Gaultier.

But his latest magazine cover for the New York-based magazine Dossier Journal - in which he is pictured taking off his shirt with his long blond locks in curlers - has been ruled too risque by US bookstores Barnes & Noble and Borders, which are covering the image with an opaque sleeve.

Dossier creative director Skye Parrott told the Huffington Post that the magazine had informed both stores that Pejic was male, and that they were essentially censoring the image of a shirtless man.
Edit to add link: http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/book-giants-censor-aussie-male-models-breasts-20110517-1eqas.html

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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:56 PM
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1. I'd cover it up too...
...yuck!
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:17 PM
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9. Its their store. They can do whatever they want in it.
Edited on Mon May-16-11 07:18 PM by Countdown_3_2_1
Don't like censorship? shop elsewhere.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:57 PM
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2. he looks like Mariel Hemingway
not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:58 PM
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3. That cover is pretty creepy, but
I don't think it should be censored.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:58 PM
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4. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we censor girls' titties
I apologize for the use of near-rhyme.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:27 PM
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15. Some perfectly good imported Italian roast coffee is now on my keyboard.
Edited on Mon May-16-11 07:28 PM by marmar
:spray:


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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:59 PM
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5. Whats with those hips and those boobish looking breasts? Had some assistance to get that look IMO.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:00 PM
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7. nah,he's just skinny
and young.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:19 PM
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10. He's flexing and bending forward.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:59 PM
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6. The decision to block should cover all genders or none.
It really is as simple as that.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:20 PM
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12. Well, no. That's why "Men's Health" covers can be shown at the supermarket, and "Playboy's" cannot.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:25 PM
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14. I said "should". I'd like to go shirtless on the beach and
Edited on Mon May-16-11 07:25 PM by blondeatlast
I find it unfair that I can't. The law is for everyone or it isn't; same with the business practice here.
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 09:17 PM
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37. I support your right
to go without support. :)
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:04 PM
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8. He models women's clothes? What does that tell you about women's fashion?
It'll look great on a breastless, hipless 19 year-old boy with wide shoulders ... on an average woman with breasts, hips and narrow shoulders, well, time for some work ladies!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:19 PM
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11. I really don't feel its censorship when you refuse to highlight something that is nauseating....
And that image is certainly nauseating. NO-ONE appreciates the male form more than I but that image is better forgotten.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:41 PM
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23. what is causing the nausea? eom
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:09 PM
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28. The "starving orphan" look isn't appealing to much of anyone....
In my store I'd keep it hidden-but I don't have a store.
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:51 PM
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25. To you it is, to others it might be and still others it isn't.
I find it interesting, wondering if photoshop was used/surgery but it doesn't nauseate me.

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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:11 PM
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30. To each their own. I begrudge no-one thie taste but I find it unpleasant in the extreme
Just me.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:07 PM
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27. Why because the person isn't following our definitions of gender?
Who made you the gender police?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:12 PM
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31. I don't have a store to display magazines in but if I did I wouldn't show this one...
Edited on Mon May-16-11 08:13 PM by Rowdyboy
I'm not the "gender police"- I just have an opinion. You don't share it. I thought thats what DU was about. So fucking what?
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:24 PM
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13. If shirtless women are censored, then so be it...no tears from me. nt
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:27 PM
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16. IT'S A MAN, BABY!!
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PsychGrad Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:28 PM
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17. Nauseating? Wtf?
I don't find it offensive at all, it's artistic, edgy. As for censoring it, it seems a little silly to me as it's just a shirtless man, something we ALL see enough of on a daily basis. Seems to me that the censorship is coming from a place of discomfort with a male looking effeminate. That makes me nauseous, not the picture.
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JoeyTrib Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 07:20 PM
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42. I think you hit the nail on the head.
Disclaimer: the pic makes me vomit. If I want a blond in curlers, she'll have all the right body parts. (Not a fan of curlers, though. Like her hair long and straight and silky, but I digress. :evilgrin:)

However, all that said, I think it got censored because the guy looks like a chick, and it's fucking weird. I wouldn't censor it, but I wouldn't be drinking my coffee anywhere near it.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 07:55 PM
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45. I agree. It is artistic and edgy, and provokes some thought.
The fact that he's got a really gorgeous face doesn't hurt either.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:30 PM
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18. Ugh... eat a freaking sandwich...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:30 PM
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19. And they wonder why they're going bankrupt
If I were them, I'd showcase the magazine in a special display. Gay people and gay-tolerant people have $$. Homophobes usually don't.

But Homophobes somehow get to rule the marketplace.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:32 PM
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20. the responses here are full of bigotry.
NICE JOB DU!
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:10 PM
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29. The revulsion surprises me too
As PsychGrad said above, I find the photo an interesting and confrontational one but certainly not disgusting. :shrug:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:17 PM
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32. People should be held responsible only for rational ethical choices
Gut reactions to visual imagery don't fall into that category.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:20 PM
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33. Thanks for the laugh!
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:23 PM
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34. +1
What's "yuck" or "creepy" or "nauseating" about a man who looks slightly feminine? I think he's got a really interesting face- like Natalie Portman.

It's a picture with a lot of interesting things to say about gender expectations and desire (but, as others have pointed out, hardly *new* things to say). It's pretty disappointing that in 2011 so many people on a supposedly left-wing/progressive website have a problem with a picture of a shirtless guy with curled hair and feminine facial features.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:26 PM
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35. It has nothing to do with feminity....I find feminine men attractive-just not starving
Edited on Mon May-16-11 08:28 PM by Rowdyboy
feminine men. He looks ill.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:40 PM
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21. Couple of things...its not really censored as its not banned or cut...secondly...
I think the real issue here is that the female form is often hidden from easy view.
Why do we "hide" shirtless pictures of women? We do, and that is the issue.

Just seeing this cover, without knowing the context, it appears to be a woman and that is the issue the book sellers are dealing with.


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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:41 PM
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22. LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!
:hide:
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 09:15 PM
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36. Just so you know...
...that was funny!
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 07:45 PM
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44. Thread win! n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:46 PM
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24. Only in America.......
Edited on Mon May-16-11 07:48 PM by marmar
But yet this magazine cover is perfectly acceptable......




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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:05 PM
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26. I just don't get the fuss
I've seen so much worse, in so many ways, every time I go to the store. The tabloids by the checkout much worse than this. He at least looks like a moderately healthy human, unlike most Hollywood personalities post-botox. This picture would have been arty and edgy in 1984. Now it's kind of boring and mainstream, but the corporate media isn't.
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GKirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 09:19 PM
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38. Is it really censorship?
They didn't remove the picture, they only covered it up because some
people would think it's a topless woman.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 09:19 PM
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39. Because he looks like a prepubescent girl.
Would you be in favor of showing (in broad view) topless girls as long as their breasts aren't developed?

How about cartoons or drawings of pre-pubescent girls?

Or I could take the counter argument and say that everything should be shown, big tits, small tits, penises, everything.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 07:03 PM
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41. And he isn't a prepubescent girl.
To turn your slippery slope in the other direction: Would you be comfortable with charging everyone that viewed this image with child pornography because he looks like a prepubescent girl? Of course you wouldn't, that would be stupid because he isn't one.
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JoeyTrib Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 07:39 PM
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43. No way does that look pre-pubescent
A pubescent boy maybe.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 09:19 PM
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40. This wouldn't even raise an eyebrow in Europe.
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