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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:58 AM
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McCain: Obama Created More Partisan Environment Than Bill Clinton
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) ripped into the president on Sunday for abandoning his pledge to foster bipartisanship in Washington, accusing Obama of creating a more toxic political environment than that which existed during the Clinton administration.

"In some ways, of course, yeah," McCain told Fox News Sunday when asked if the Obama White House was more partisan than Bill Clinton's. "At least under Hillarycare they tried to seriously negotiate with Republicans. There has been no effort that I know of -- of serious across the table negotiations -- such as I have engaged in with other administrations. And that was the commitment that the president made."

McCain, who squared off against Obama during the 2008 campaign, harped on two main issues: the deal the White House made with the pharmaceutical industry to secure its support of health care reform, and the fact that no C-SPAN cameras had been brought into Senator Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) office as the majority leader tinkered with the health care legislation.

"There has never been serious cross-the-table negotiations on any serious issue that I've engaged in -- and that I and others have engaged in -- with other administrations both Republican and Democrat," said McCain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/20/mccain-obama-created-more_n_398452.html
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It's like George W. Bush didn't exist to these people. Gosh, I wonder why?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:02 AM
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1. Who?
I hope we in Arizona can vote him out in 2010.

He needs to be retired.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:03 AM
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2. The partisanship (and it does exist on both sides) stems....
back to the Reagan era. It may have existed before that but it was not so prevalent. Reagan set the stage for all that followed.
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:30 PM
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35. The death of the Fairness Doctrine and the rise of rightwing talk radio...
It's been building, getting steadily worse since Reagan unchained the wolves. What's more, it's entirely a construct of the right, further, McCain is a senile old git. He should retire before he becomes an even bigger embarrassment.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:04 AM
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3. Darn it all!
"And I would have gotten away with the presidency, too, if it weren't for you meddlin' kids!"
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:09 AM
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4. Get Off My Lawn /nt
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:13 AM
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5. And much less than GWB
Clinton had to work with a republican house, so they had no choice. The "uniter" was the most divisive President in history I think. Obama tries, but the idea the republicans have is that bipartisan is Obama giving them everything they want.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:13 AM
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6. Actually, your joke of a party is 100% responsible.
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 11:15 AM by liberalmuse
During most of my lifetime they aligned with Falwell and his ilk, then Limbaugh and his ilk and have actively worked to demonize the opposition, dividing this country. And that tool you picked as VP sure as hell isn't helping matters. Sir.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:21 AM
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7. Absolutely. Take, for example, that nasty joke that Obama made about McCain's daughter ...
Oh, wait. Never mind.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:22 AM
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8. Old Man rails at clouds...
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:39 AM
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9. Liar. Bush's White House was far more partisan.
In fact, I would prefer that Obama's White House be a lot more partisan.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:43 AM
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10. This shows Obama and the Dems have really got under the old goat's skin.
:rofl:

GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS!

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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:50 AM
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11. Fuck you and the dinosaur you rode in on
you wrinkled gray sack of elephant shit.

He tried being bi-partisan. Too much so.

Now go piss off.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:52 AM
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12. How can one embrace the meme "party of no" and say this with a straight face
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 11:53 AM by dave29
Such is the life of John McCain
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:52 AM
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13. By referring to "Hillarycare", McCain proved he is still a partisan hack
Was that the official name for health care reform in 1993, Johnny Songbird?

:puke:


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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:53 AM
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14. "At least under Hillarycare they tried to seriously negotiate with Republicans."
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 11:57 AM by ClarkUSA
Ah, the good ol' days of former DLC chairman President Clinton where DOMA, DADT, welfare reform,
deregulating media, repealing Glass-Steagall, and NAFTA were all passed!

Now, that's what I call the golden days of bipartisanship... :puke:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:08 PM
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15. Yep...like the GOP was holding out flowers to the D's when they
had all of the power...:eyes:

Hey McCain...you were there when you and your buddies literally locked the D's out of a Senate conference.

You miserable bastard.


I don't care if you never get a voice again...the GOP sucks.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:11 PM
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16. John McCain is a stupid, evil man...n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:14 PM
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17. We can't put much stock in anything McCain has to say.
He's as partisan as they come inside the GOP and the modern-day GOP could not be too much more partisan if it tried, and I guess it is trying to be.

A party whose leaders are publicly beholden to a bozo like Rush Limbaugh isn't worth listening to on much of anything.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:16 PM
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18. McCain has given up any chance he ever had to be respected when he's gone
He's a guttersnipe now - I've got more use for a pile of crap.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:37 PM
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19. "If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo, it will break him."
Have you been out in the AZ sun too long Johnny? I believe it was your fellow mouth-breather Jim DeMint who said that.


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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 03:50 PM
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20. don't blame Obama
it's really Al Franken's fault for cutting off Joe.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:14 PM
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21. Actually he united the far left and the far right to one big happy Obama-Hating family
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 05:07 PM
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31. exactly, it's a circle, not a line. so weird. (nm)
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euphoria12leo Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:26 PM
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22. Oh please
Obama is catching hell for trying to be bipartisan. The Repubs knew they were going to vote "no" on everything and they've done just that. Doesn't Cindy have something for the old guy to do? Keep him at home.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:28 PM
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23. I wish this was true
but it is not.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:30 PM
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24. McCain makes me sick, and he made me sick again today with this BS. Obama reached out
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 04:32 PM by jenmito
to Repubs. and they gave him a clenched fist. All they want to do is see him fail. He's appearing to reach out so much that he's making some DEMS. sick. It's nobody's fault but the Repubs.' for the partisanship. And McCain had the nerve to say he still tries to reach out to the "Democrat party." :eyes:
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:36 PM
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25. Bush/Cheney were such bipartisan uniters
how can anyone follow that act?

:sarcasm:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:39 PM
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26. Fucking Idiot LIAR.
Grateful this asshole didn't get in with the other pathological LIAR.
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:41 PM
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27. What a dimwit!
McCain: Obama Created More Partisan Environment Than Bill Clinton

More partisan? You loony fuckin' toon! The Repugs IMPEACHED Clinton.

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 04:43 PM
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28. Dementia is a horrible thing in the elderly.
Poor man needs a nice rest home with some gubbamint-run health care to take care of him.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 05:02 PM
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29. They're going to vote against it anyway so why talk to them at all
What a jerk McDope is.
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 05:06 PM
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30. and yet, a good portion of the left is ready to dump him
:shrug:
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 05:15 PM
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32. Obama had the audacity to beat him and he can't get over it.
He is a tiny little man and someone needs to tell him so.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:20 PM
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33. Did McCain forgot about the prolonged discussions with Senators Grassley, Enzi, and SNOWE???!!!!
And then both Grassley and Enzi were caught later on making comments that made it clear that they NEVER planned on voting for ANYTHING and that the their "negotiations" were merely their way of helping delaying and eventually killing HCR? Snowe seemed to be negotiating in good faith for awhile and she did help vote the Baucus bill out of committee but then apparently lost her head recently when she commented that she feels that HCR is being "rushed" or something to that effect and that she isn't going to vote for it. For all of the Democrats' concessions and attempts to win over Republicans including, most notably, removing the PO, you'd think that we'd AT LEAST get Snowe and/or Collins to sign onto it but NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! There ain't going to be a single Republican vote for ANY kind of HCR but McCain is either stupid and/or delusional if he truly believes that the administration and the Democrats in Congress, particularly in the Senate, didn't bend over backwards enough to try to please them. It's too bad that we have our own "Republicans" in our party to whom we've given way too much away for securing their vote but, assuming no last minute treachery, at least they will be voting for some important reform measures.

Oh, and as far as creating a "toxic political environment", well, it's interesting if not somewhat ironic that he mentioned "toxic political environments" along with the Clinton Administration. I wonder WHO exactly he thinks created the "tone" in Washington during that time period and what he thought things were like when Bush's "brain" was running the political arm of the WH during W's term? Al Franken surely does (see his "Lies & The Lying Liars" book) I guess McCain also forgot that a sitting REPUBLICAN VP told a member of the US Senate to go f**k himself" and then told everybody he felt great about doing it and offered no apology? McCain's memory is clearly not working right! He needs to STFU and retire to Arizona.

:wtf:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:22 PM
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34. The guy's so full of shit his eyes must be brown....
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 06:57 PM
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36. Oh Please
Obama has done more than any president to work with the other side.He does it to the anger of his base.
Bush never cared what Democrats said on anything.Mccain Is a Idiot and can go to hell.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 07:17 PM
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37. Nice way to ignore the Bush years you POS!!!!!!!!!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 07:18 PM
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38. Ya sure, John.
:rofl:

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