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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:18 PM
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Excellent article about Obama's term up to this point - "What Happened to Obama's Passion"?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/what-happened-to-obamas-passion.html?ref=opinion

This is an absolutely fantastic article written by Drew Westin for the New York Times opinion page.

Here are a few excerpts

IT was a blustery day in Washington on Jan. 20, 2009, as it often seems to be on the day of a presidential inauguration. As I stood with my 8-year-old daughter, watching the president deliver his inaugural address, I had a feeling of unease. It wasn’t just that the man who could be so eloquent had seemingly chosen not to be on this auspicious occasion, although that turned out to be a troubling harbinger of things to come. It was that there was a story the American people were waiting to hear — and needed to hear — but he didn’t tell it.


But there was no story — and there has been none since.

In similar circumstances, Franklin D. Roosevelt offered Americans a promise to use the power of his office to make their lives better and to keep trying until he got it right. Beginning in his first inaugural address, and in the fireside chats that followed, he explained how the crash had happened, and he minced no words about those who had caused it. He promised to do something no president had done before: to use the resources of the United States to put Americans directly to work, building the infrastructure we still rely on today. He swore to keep the people who had caused the crisis out of the halls of power, and he made good on that promise. In a 1936 speech at Madison Square Garden, he thundered, “Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me — and I welcome their hatred.”


Those were the shoes — that was the historic role — that Americans elected Barack Obama to fill. The president is fond of referring to “the arc of history,” paraphrasing the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s famous statement that “the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” But with his deep-seated aversion to conflict and his profound failure to understand bully dynamics — in which conciliation is always the wrong course of action, because bullies perceive it as weakness and just punch harder the next time — he has broken that arc and has likely bent it backward for at least a generation.



I think what this editorial does a very good job of is articulating the fact that the President entered a unique point in history that not many Presidents have had to deal with - and as such, had extensive political capital to right some of the wrongs of the previous administrations. However, his demeanor is one of always trying to appease the other side, and with that demeanor came a fundamental muddling-down of his key policy initiatives. President Obama loves playing both sides of the issue - saying one thing, and then doing another - just to make sure that both sides approve of his moves. It does seem like he has a fundamental need for approval, an undying urge to compromise, when compromise should not be seeked, nor when it is welcome.

It's a very damning illustration of President Obama's term to this point, and I highly reccomend it to everyone.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:20 PM
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1. Dupe. This outstanding article has already made it to the "Greatest" page.n/t
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:22 PM
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3. Didn't see it - which is why I posted this.
Care to provide a link?
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:17 PM
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20. Four times
Not that I mind, it's a worthwhile read and the comments on the different OPs really illustrate the range of opinions here on DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1681833

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x738511

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x738141

and yours is the fourth currently on the greatest page, maybe more that didn't make it.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:36 PM
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23. ... and another one
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:22 PM
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2. I think this is a question asked by people who don't understand government.
Who don't realize that "passion" counts for exactly nothing in government if you can't put in the leg work. There's plenty of examples: Jimmy Carter was undeniably passionate about what he believed in, but he and his people had trouble organizing and doing the real work to get it done.

Meanwhile, Obama has accomplished about 150 of his campaign promises, while being stymied on only about 50, most of those being thanks to Congress.
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:23 PM
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4. Read the article - not the headline.
Then come back and discuss.

To simplify Obama's failings to his "passion" is oversimplification, and it shows that you did not read the editorial.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:26 PM
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6. I read it. It's still nonsense.
It's based on the idea that if you just wish hard enough, the clinically insane Republicans will cave to reason and give you what you want.
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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:28 PM
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7. No, that is not what the editorial is based on.
Read it again.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:42 PM
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9. Exactly, TheWraith
Obama has done just that: Wished and kept hoping the insane would cave to reason and give him what he wants.

And they ran right over him and got what the insane wanted. Very astute, TW.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:36 PM
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15. Exactly. I honestly think this is how some believe Bernie Sanders would "handle"
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 02:39 PM by CakeGrrl
Republicans.

What a strange suspension of rational thought.

If people don't approach this by thinking through what can ACTUALLY happen in dealing with the Tea Party, they're setting themselves up for serious disappointment by projecting more unrealistic expectations on the next hero in their sights.

The most unrealistic and dangerous assumption is that the Tea Party GOP really doesn't want to send the country down the drain any more than Dems, so they will eventually blink in a game of chicken.

Wrong.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:39 PM
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16. +1
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:52 PM
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19. So many progressive are so eager to overlook teabagger assholery...
and extreme obstructionism in order to point the finger of blame at President Obama. Shame. Shame.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:25 PM
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5. Thank you for posting this. This is a must read
So right on and explains it down to a T.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 12:57 PM
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24. It gives us all plenty to consider
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:37 PM
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8. The author complains that Obama didn't come up with an effective story narrative
back in 2009, while at the same time admitting that he (the author) knew from Inauguration Day that there wasn't an effective story narrative coming out of Obama.

Well, where were Drew Weston's multiple articles urging Obama to develop the narrative back in 2009? He doesn't mention any.

It's the height of hubris to take Obama to task for something that the author contend Obama SHOULD have thought of back in 2009, while at the same time stating that he (Weston) had the answer but - apparently - couldn't be bothered to share it with us and the president before today.

Reminds me of the way psychics always seem so brilliant after a disaster happens when they couldn't be bothered to give anyone a heads up before the disaster struck.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:48 PM
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10. "where were Drew Weston's multiple articles urging Obama to develop the narrative back in 2009?"
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:41 PM
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17. Thanks for that. It answers the question.
Weston must be feeling like Cassandra right about now.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:49 PM
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11. "In similar circumstances, Franklin D. Roosevelt..."
Bullshit. These circumstances are not similar. Under FDR, the Senate was comprised of 70 Democrats and the House had 322 Democrats. Furthermore, the media during FDR's administration, were far less full of bullshittery than today.

I realize Westen is preaching to an angry amen chorus of malcontents...and he does make some valid points about Obama's instincts being "compromise rather than ideological zealotry) but we've known that since his 2004 DNC speech.

As a professor of psychology, I would like to think Westen is familiar with the logical flaws of reductionism. Perhaps he can share this OP-Ed as a case study.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:53 PM
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12. I had hoped for FDR. Instead, we got the compromiser.
No matter what the reality of those who would take him down, he simply won't fight back.

I give him some credit on health care, as weak as that was. Otherwise, I want spine.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:29 PM
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13. The mood changes when one gets down to implementing a contrary
agenda? :shrug: :patriot:
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boxman15 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:35 PM
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14. Obama needs to come up with a narrative if he wants to win in 2012.
I think he's been a very effective president for the most part and has gotten as much out of two shitty Congresses as possible (comparisons to FDR are moot because his Congresses were much more compliant and were essentially elected on the New Deal platform).

Obama's problem has been not finding a narrative or a storyline to counter the right's. Considering he's the best speaker of this generation, that's shocking and very disappointing. He hasn't shifted national discourse to the left. But, considering how vehemently opposed to everything the GOP/Tea Party is, it wouldn't have helped in terms of getting legislation. He's gotten a lot out of them, and it's impressive he's gotten anything done considering how polarized everything is.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:45 PM
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18. That's truth!
Narratives are needed for effective policy-making and electioneering. In the coming weeks, we'll be moving from governing mode to election mode. By Labor Day, I expect (read: "hope) to see that narrative crystallized. Here's a NYT story: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/us/politics/07campaign.html

Note that, in 2004, Boosh didn't run his first campaign ad until March.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:21 PM
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21. All he has to do is speak the truth - in clear sure terms - instead of worrying about politics...
...which would take care of itself if people could tell whose side he's on.
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boxman15 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:27 PM
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22. Agreed.
So far, though, he's failed to say much. Or at least it seems that way since the right-wing spin machine is so loud and effective.

Hopefully he'll be able to tell his narrative, based on the truth, more effectively out on the campaign trail where he seems more comfortable.
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