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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:41 PM
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So far, it's a super-progressive speech.
No wonder the guy next to the VP looks constipated.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:41 PM
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1. lol
:rofl:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:43 PM
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2. Super...
Yes, indeedy. Not sure about the progressive part though.
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HeroTwins Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:55 PM
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10. "going to the moon" is not progressive?
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:44 PM
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3. And he's making the other side clap for things they normally wouldn't...
brilliant.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:45 PM
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4. I'm wondering what would provide Boehner the most displeasure
Being constipated for several months? Or having diarrhea on an every 2 hour schedule.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:45 PM
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5. yeah but let's see if
the pretty words translate into concrete action...
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:49 PM
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6. Progressive? It's full of Republican theory
too much regulation, corporate taxes are too high, escalate the "free trade" labor wars, nice he compliments teachers, but then turns around and reinforces the "bad teacher" meme? WTF? Better than the alternative? Yes. Progressive? That's a freaking laugh!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:50 PM
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7. consider the source
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HeroTwins Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:56 PM
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11. take your blinders off. he's speaking to all the people. not just you.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:09 PM
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14. it would be funny if it wasn't sickening - and if it wasn't killing people in this nation n/t
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:18 PM
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20. +1,000
This forum would make Justin Beiber's fans blush.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:35 PM
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24. Where did he say there was "too much regulation"?
Please, point me to that line in the speech.

Oh, wait--you can't, because he didn't say that.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:16 PM
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26. He said that corporate tax rates are too high, not that the amount corporations pay is too high
He acknowledged the fact that many corporations don't pay taxes because of loopholes an that this needs to end.
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:53 PM
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8. Is Boehner already in the tank?
?
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 08:15 AM
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32. That's what I thought. He looked like a drunk trying to not pass out.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:54 PM
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9. Michelle looks awesome.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:57 PM
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12. I think it's balanced and centrist.
And I think it's going pretty well. Right tone for the times.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 09:58 PM
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13. this is DU,
unless Obama goes Karl Marx this speech will be panned.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:12 PM
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15. When a constitutional lawyer
says that we should force colleges to take the military on campus, there is something wrong.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:14 PM
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16. And to use DADT repeal as the reasoning is sad.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:19 PM
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21. force? When did he say force?
He called on them to do it, he didn't propose legislation to force anything..

Why do people make shit up?
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namahage Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:31 PM
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22. Not what he said. And, not surprisingly, not what most of the affected institutions think.
These schools would not have minded having military recruiters on campus--except for the fact that DADT meant that there would be discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Here is a letter that speaks to the matter from the dean of UC Hastings, a law school in San Francisco:

http://www.uchastings.edu/careers/docs/40.deansletter.pdf

UC Hastings nondiscrimination policy provides that we do not make our career services facilities available to
employers who discriminate in the selection of employees on the basis of national origin, race, religion, gender,
sexual orientation, age, handicap or any other basis prohibited by law. The purpose of this policy is to foster and
build a campus community that values and practices mutual respect and inclusiveness.

A federal law, known as the Solomon Amendment, first enacted in 1997, speaks directly to the issue of military
recruitment on college and university campuses. The Solomon Amendment provides that a college or university
may be denied certain federal funding if the college or university denies the military the same facilities offered
to all other employers.

A number of law schools and law professors challenged the constitutionality of the Solomon amendment in
Rumsfeld v. FAIR. On March 6, 2006, the Supreme Court rejected the argument that the Solomon amendment
interfered with the first amendment rights of law schools and upheld the constitutionality of the Solomon
Amendment. Thus the Solomon Amendment remains binding and enforceable on UC Hastings as well as on all
law schools and other university units across the nation.

<snip>

The decision to allow the military to recruit on the campus should not be interpreted as one supportive of the
militarys still current policy of discriminating against gays and lesbians. It is because service to our nation is
such an honored tradition deserving of our respect that we believe it important to ensure all members of our
society are able to participate as equals. Our hope is DADT will soon be fully repealed and all of our students
will be able to pursue any career path they desire, including the path of devoting their professional lives to the
protection and defense of their country.


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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 12:13 AM
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27. And since that didn't happen, nothing is wrong, yeah? (nt)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:17 PM
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18. lol! +1. nt
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:17 PM
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19. Compared to WHAT??
You sure have a sick and twisted idea of what being a "Progressive" is. You must have LOVED those uber liberal Progressives Reagan and Nixon, then!
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:46 PM
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25. +1
:rofl: Tort reform must be a form of progressive-ism I've never heard of before
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:38 PM
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34. Well if Fox News says he is a progressive
then he must be. :sarcasm: Its gotten to the point where honestly I don't think people know what Progressive even means anymore and they think it is anyone to the Left of Reagan.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 10:33 PM
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23. In what alternate universe? n/t
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:15 AM
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28. How progressive is lowering corporate taxes?
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 07:20 AM
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29. Fairly progressive if you do it the way he asks
if you get rid of the loopholes so that the vast majority of corporations that currently pay nothing start paying, then a reduction in rate would probably get more revenue than the current plan. One only works with the other which is why it is good to not pull issues out of context.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 08:14 AM
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30. The past is prologue
There will be a `compromise` where Obama will agree to drop getting rid of the loopholes if republicans agree to lower the tax rate...or something equally fucked up and mindless.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:24 PM
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33. anything but mindless
I don't see mindlessness anywhere in a single thing that has been accomplished. I may not agree with all of it, but then I never do. Given the context, I remain fairly impressed with what he has done. As much as one would care to avoid it, life is invariably lived in context.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 08:14 AM
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31. Boehner looked hammered.
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